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paulh177


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PostPosted: Thu 08 Mar 2018, 14:42    Post subject:  

Installed this pup (from http://augras.eu/puppy_linux/musher0/xenialPup-706-k41/distro/xenial-7.0.6.iso as a frugal install onto Acer AOA150 (ATOM N270, 1GB).

Unfortunately the WiFi card isn't recognised - it uses an Atheros PCI device and in Precise the ath5k driver is used (Atheros 242x/542x).

For the Xenialpup version, a kind of patch has been supplied in the form of a .pet (atheros_kernel_modules-4.4.95noPAE-xenial32.pet ) but this doesn't work with the 7.0.6 version (presumably because of the kernel difference).

Before I go haring around trying to sort this out myself, has anyone else packaged them up already?

ath5k isn't very unusual and has been included in Puppy for ages now - certainly before Precise; Any reason why it was dropped from the xenial series?

thanks in advance
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PostPosted: Thu 08 Mar 2018, 16:52    Post subject:  

Hello, PaulH.

Thanks for installing xenialPup-7.0.6_k41.

Sorry to hear about your Atheros wifi problem. The driver IS included, at:
/lib/modules/4.1.2-EmSee-32-pae/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ath/ath5k/ath5k.ko

so perhaps it is something else? For some reason the driver does not load
properly? Or your card itself has a glitch?

The forum member who compiled this Puppy's kernel, stemsee, also seems to
know quite a lot about wi-fi:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=982043&sort=lastpost#982043

Maybe ask your question to him through PM or initiate a thread for your problem?
Just a thought. (I am a wi-fi dummy myself, sorry. I have been connecting through
ethernet cable forever. I am not even sure if we have wi-fi in the neighborhood.)

IHTH. BFN.

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PostPosted: Thu 08 Mar 2018, 20:52    Post subject: Acer AOA150 wireless  

paulh177 wrote:
Installed this pup (from http://augras.eu/puppy_linux/musher0/xenialPup-706-k41/distro/xenial-7.0.6.iso as a frugal install onto Acer AOA150 (ATOM N270, 1GB).

Unfortunately the WiFi card isn't recognised - it uses an Atheros PCI device

I have an Acer Aspire One, will try mushero's Xenial and report.
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I had a USB flash drive with mushero's Xenial, and just booted from it on this Acer. I'm on here with wireless.

Linux puppypc29259 4.1.2-EmSee-32-pae #1 SMP Wed Jul 15 12:39:34 BST 2015 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux

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PostPosted: Thu 08 Mar 2018, 21:19    Post subject:  

Thanks, SheldonIsaac.
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PostPosted: Fri 09 Mar 2018, 09:18    Post subject:  

Just an observation here...
It seems that the 4-series kernels have dropped support for the ath5k/9k and the ath ethernet.

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paulh177


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PostPosted: Fri 09 Mar 2018, 11:02    Post subject:  

Quote:
The driver IS included, at:
/lib/modules/4.1.2-EmSee-32-pae/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ath/ath5k/ath5k.ko

so perhaps it is something else? For some reason the driver does not load
properly? Or your card itself has a glitch?


see screenshot - it's not included in mine, and the directory structure is different from what you suggest.

My card otherwise works perfectly, with Precise, Tahr and with XenialPup 7.5 (once the patch from the latter has been applied), so no card glitch.
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PostPosted: Fri 09 Mar 2018, 11:05    Post subject:  

Hi 8Geee

Look again! Wink
Quote:
[/lib/modules]>tree -fi | grep ath | grep wireless
./4.1.2-EmSee-32-pae/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ath
./4.1.2-EmSee-32-pae/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ath/ar5523
./4.1.2-EmSee-32-pae/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ath/ar5523/ar5523.ko
./4.1.2-EmSee-32-pae/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ath/ath10k
./4.1.2-EmSee-32-pae/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ath/ath10k/ath10k_core.ko
./4.1.2-EmSee-32-pae/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ath/ath10k/ath10k_pci.ko
./4.1.2-EmSee-32-pae/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ath/ath5k
./4.1.2-EmSee-32-pae/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ath/ath5k/ath5k.ko
./4.1.2-EmSee-32-pae/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ath/ath6kl
./4.1.2-EmSee-32-pae/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ath/ath6kl/ath6kl_core.ko
./4.1.2-EmSee-32-pae/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ath/ath6kl/ath6kl_sdio.ko
./4.1.2-EmSee-32-pae/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ath/ath6kl/ath6kl_usb.ko
./4.1.2-EmSee-32-pae/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ath/ath9k
./4.1.2-EmSee-32-pae/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ath/ath9k/ath9k_common.ko
./4.1.2-EmSee-32-pae/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ath/ath9k/ath9k_htc.ko
./4.1.2-EmSee-32-pae/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ath/ath9k/ath9k_hw.ko
./4.1.2-EmSee-32-pae/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ath/ath9k/ath9k.ko
./4.1.2-EmSee-32-pae/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ath/ath.ko
./4.1.2-EmSee-32-pae/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ath/carl9170
./4.1.2-EmSee-32-pae/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ath/carl9170/carl9170.ko
./4.1.2-EmSee-32-pae/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ath/wcn36xx
./4.1.2-EmSee-32-pae/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ath/wcn36xx/wcn36xx.ko
./4.1.2-EmSee-32-pae/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ath/wil6210
./4.1.2-EmSee-32-pae/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ath/wil6210/wil6210.ko

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PostPosted: Fri 09 Mar 2018, 11:17    Post subject:  

musher0 wrote:
Hi 8Geee

Look again! Wink


With respect, musher0, your system has the directory structure /lib/modules/4.1.2-EmSee-32-pae/ but mine (as you can see in the screenshot I supplied) has /lib/modules/4.1.30/

SO we must be looking at different editions of the pup.

I got mine from here: http://augras.eu/puppy_linux/musher0/xenialPup-706-k41/distro/xenial-7.0.6.iso
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PostPosted: Fri 09 Mar 2018, 11:25    Post subject:  

8Geee wrote:
Just an observation here...
It seems that the 4-series kernels have dropped support for the ath5k/9k and the ath ethernet.

Regards
8Geee


Which is probably why the XenialPup7.5 version has an addon .pet for the atheros cards - it works fine with my AOA150. I was advised however that 7.0.6 was a more stable release but I seem to be having more problems than with 7.5 Sad

Anyway - it seems that we need to add the ath5k drivers back in a similar way for xenial 7.0.6.

I can remember doing this for another puppy years and years ago for some card or other but the details escape me.

I wonder can anyone remind me? --

Do I have to get the driver code + the correct kernel headers for this version (of the kernel) and then compile them?

If that's right where would I get the kernel headers for this (I've looked quickly in the puppy repo on NLUUG and can't find them) ?
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PostPosted: Fri 09 Mar 2018, 12:15    Post subject: Wireless on Aspire  

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PostPosted: Fri 09 Mar 2018, 13:07    Post subject:  

I downloaded the ISO from the augras site. As paulh has reported, it has a different kernel build that is missing the Atheros drivers.

OTOH, there is NO problem in general with k4 kernels and Atheros. They are still included in the mainstream kernel and work fine.
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PostPosted: Fri 09 Mar 2018, 13:20    Post subject:  

paulh177 wrote:
musher0 wrote:
Hi 8Geee

Look again! Wink

With respect, musher0, your system has the directory structure /lib/modules/4.1.2-EmSee-32-pae/ but mine (as you can see in the screenshot I supplied) has /lib/modules/4.1.30/

SO we must be looking at different editions of the pup.

I got mine from here: http://augras.eu/puppy_linux/musher0/xenialPup-706-k41/distro/xenial-7.0.6.iso

Hi paulh177.

You are perfectly right. And I am too... This:
http://augras.eu/puppy_linux/musher0/xenialPup-706-k41/distro/AutreNoyau/ALTxenialPup706-PAEkrnl+zdrv.zip
is the alternative kernel and modules that I provided for xenialPup-7.0.6.

I apologize for not anticipating this language hurdle: "Autre Noyau" means
"Other Kernel" in French.

You may, if you wish, go looking for kernel-4.1.30's headers, etc. But this "Other Kernel"
offers the ath* wifi drivers OOTB.

It is a simple tit for tat substitution to unpack and install the above alternative.
Preferably from another Pup, or even from the same 706 Pup but booted entirely
from CD/DVD or USB key:


-- go to your current xenialPup-7.0.6 folder;

-- move your present vmlinuz and zdrv*.sfs to a safe place;

-- unzip stemsee's kernel 4.1.2 package (the zip archive mentioned above);

-- copy stemsee's files vmlinuz and zdrv_xenial_7.sfs to the xenialPup-7.0.6 folder;

-- remove the CD, DVD or USB key

-- reboot normally. The alternative kernel and drivers should now be in place and active.

Again, I am sorry about this misunderstanding, which I unadvertedly brought about.

Please let me know if you have any problem with the substitution.

Best regards.

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PostPosted: Fri 09 Mar 2018, 16:26    Post subject:  

ah calice ... I should have checked out the contents of the zip files myself
Sad

but I write this from xenial 7.0.6 via wireless Very Happy

merci beaucoup!
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PostPosted: Fri 09 Mar 2018, 17:44    Post subject: 4.1.2-EmSee-32-pae vs 4.1.30 ?  

musher0 (in part) wrote:
This:
http://augras.eu/puppy_linux/musher0/xenialPup-706-k41/distro/AutreNoyau/ALTxenialPup706-PAEkrnl+zdrv.zip
is the alternative kernel and modules that I provided for xenialPup-7.0.6..

Thanks very much to you all.
May I ask about 4.1.2-EmSee-32-pae vs 4.1.30
Apparently the vmlinuz (is that the "kernel"?) is different, and also the zdrv.
Is there a reason to use the 4.1.30 , rather than musher0's alternative kernel and modules, which I have been using ?

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PostPosted: Fri 09 Mar 2018, 18:45    Post subject: Re: 4.1.2-EmSee-32-pae vs 4.1.30 ?  

sheldonisaac wrote:
musher0 (in part) wrote:
This:
http://augras.eu/puppy_linux/musher0/xenialPup-706-k41/distro/AutreNoyau/ALTxenialPup706-PAEkrnl+zdrv.zip
is the alternative kernel and modules that I provided for xenialPup-7.0.6..

Thanks very much to you all.
May I ask about 4.1.2-EmSee-32-pae vs 4.1.30
Apparently the vmlinuz (is that the "kernel"?) is different, and also the zdrv.
Is there a reason to use the 4.1.30 , rather than musher0's alternative kernel and modules, which I have been using ?

Hi SheldonIsaac.

On Puppy Linux, the vmlinuz executable always contains the Linux kernel, and the
zdrv*.sfs file, the drivers. On older Puppies, sometimes the drivers were included in
the main puppy*.sfs file rather than kept separate.

I changed to stemsee's 4.1.2 kernel and offered it as an alternative because I
wanted something that could access the 4 Gb of RAM I have on this machine.
I like having a ramdisk, It speeds things up so much, e.g. for file transfers and
compilations,

The ex-factory kernel from the Woof-CE build, although good, was not PAE:
accessing 2 Gb maximum, it only allows a tiny ramdisk.

I hope this answers the question.

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