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The Waimea window manager, "designed for maximum efficiency"
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Anniekin


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PostPosted: Sun 24 Dec 2017, 00:43    Post subject:  

looks better that jwm but... everything looks better than jwm
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backi

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PostPosted: Sun 24 Dec 2017, 05:18    Post subject:  

Hi Musher !
Managed to install waigea_32bit.pet on Tahrpup 6.0.6.........but does not find new installed desktop with xwin waigea ......do i have to save and reboot after installing maybe ?
Wm Switcher also does not find anything .

BTW,,,,,installing the pet (as i stated before ) does not work on LxPupXenial.........probably something to do with compression type of the xxxx.pet
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musher0

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PostPosted: Sun 24 Dec 2017, 09:52    Post subject:  

Thanks to all for a wonderful response! Warms the heart, really!

@backi:
It's spelled waimea! < xwin waimea > With an "m", not a "g".

@Billtoo:
This is a thread on the waimea WM, not icewm? Smile (Being "in the moon" happens
to the best of us!! Don't worry!)

@bigpup and MochiMoppei
I'll have a look at that wmswitcher script. Maybe try to modernize it a bit.

I already have a wm switcher based on aemenu, but it may not be appropriate to
mix menus from different WM's.

I can certainly incorporate restartwm lines to go back to icewm, jwm, etc., in the
waimea menu.

The line is only < restartwm name-of-WM >. Anyway, give me a few hours on this.

@bigpup
If the wmswitcher is strictly a bash script with no executables in it, 32-bits or 64
bits does not matter. This is a general rule for bash scripts, BTW.

@Anniekin
Thanks for telling the truth! And for the comic relief! Laughing

@all
Would you be kind enough to tell in your next posts if you are running the 32-bit or
the 64-version of waimea? TIA.

Also I discovered that waimea does not accommodate utf-8. Probably a problem for
you, MochiMoppei?

For Anglophone users, it's no problem. But English is only used by one billion
users! Wink Out of 7.5 billion (?) humans on this planet!

I'll try to get in touch with the author to see if he can update his code to solve this.
I had a look at the source, and utf8 is only mentioned in the net.* files. Something
like < utf-8, false >. But I did not touch anything, I don't know C.

That rounds it up for now. TWYL, gang.

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musher0

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PostPosted: Sun 24 Dec 2017, 12:17    Post subject:  

Hello!

About switching WMs, i have come up with an alternative solution here:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=978261&sort=lastpost#978261

I will still try to do something with 01micko's switcher, although I am NOT an
X-Dialog/GTK programmer, and 01micko's script uses that type of programming.
Give me a break,guys, this is Christmas Eve! Smile

Why "Christmas Eve" instead of "Christmas Adam", nobody knows!!! Laughing

Joke aside, I'm including a new waimea menu generator that scans if the
Puppy has a variety of WM's and comes up with a list of restarts. waimea has its
own way of restarting WMs, so I couldn't use our familiar < restartwm WM > on
a waimea menu line. The waimea syntax for this is
Code:
[item] "restart(icewm)"
(or whatever WM). It's faster and more efficient than our procedure, though;
the code may be worth borrowing for Puppy. (Just a thought.)

The WMs the menu generator scans for are:
Quote:
echinus fluxbox icewm jwm
kde openbox pekwm waimea
xfwm4 xmx

Only the WMs you have installed are shown in the Exit submenu.

I did a bit of testing, but please re-test. TIA for any feedback.

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PostPosted: Mon 25 Dec 2017, 00:08    Post subject:  

Hello all.

For the record, I have produced a 2nd version of my icewm menu generator, here.

It is based on the same concept I used for the waimea menu above. (This concept
being: "Install or copy or create menu entries for the WMs the user has installed on
his/her Pup from a ready-made list of WMs.")

BFN.

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PostPosted: Mon 25 Dec 2017, 19:14    Post subject:  

Hello all.

I have posted a CLI WM switcher here. It's a bit irreverent Wink, but it does the job.

With the technique I use, it's actually a CLI app in its own window, a "quasi-GUI
app", as I like to call them. The only hindrance, for some anyway, is that one has
to type in his/her choice -- you can't click it.

I think this "quasi-GUI" script rounds up the subject of WM switchers nicely, in
addition to the restart*.desktop files that will incorporate in the Utility section of any
WM menu, including jwm, and the special add-ons to the menus of waimea
and icewm. (Please see my posts above.)

I did look at 01micko's X-Dialog/GTK script, but will not attempt anything, for two
reasons:
-- 1) that "language" is beyond my expertise;
-- 2) that script is the work of our boss...

I would feel very awkward editing anything from Mick Amadio. Similarly, I have
refrained from editing anything from BarryK. It's a form of respect. If it had only
needed a wrapper, perhaps I would have ventured. But alter the core of a script
written by one of those two masters of Puppy Linux? No.

IMO, the best course of action would be that Mick bring back his WM switcher
script on his drawing table to edit and complement it.

So... we are back discussing the wonderful features of the waimea window
manager, yes? Smile

BFN.

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PostPosted: Wed 27 Dec 2017, 17:08    Post subject:  

Hello all.

It didn't strike me before, but I think the WM waimea favors shading over minimizing.

If you look at the right of the title bar of a waimea window, there is no minimize button.
You have a mazimize button and a close button. To minimize, you have to click on the
icon or entry of the window in the tray bar.

However, double-click the title bar of the window and zzzoooppp, it becomes shaded.
Double-click the title bar again, and the regular window is back.

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