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How to install pulseaudio-11.0.tar.gz or tar.xz in GP Live
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kuman11

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PostPosted: Fri 26 Jan 2018, 19:31    Post subject:  How to install pulseaudio-11.0.tar.gz or tar.xz in GP Live  

which is based on Debian?
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PostPosted: Sat 27 Jan 2018, 10:42    Post subject:  

What is GP Live?

What specific Puppy version?
Frugal or full install?

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Mike Walsh


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PostPosted: Sat 27 Jan 2018, 13:44    Post subject:  

He's talking about the 'Parted Magic' LiveCD, bigpup. We had this out with him once before, a few weeks ago..... Rolling Eyes

Seems to be under the impression you can run it like a regular operating system... (*shrug*)

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=978396#978396

(*shakes head in amazement...*)

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@kuman11:-

In all fairness to yourself and everybody else, you would do better to set up your USB stick so that you have a Puppy booting from the first partition, with gParted Live set up on the second partition, and called by Puppy's Grub4DOS bootloader, installed from within sda1's Pup...

You cannot have gParted as the primary OS, calling (or chain-loading) everything else. You're going about things backwards; Puppy is the OS, gParted Live is essentially a giant utility, which has been set up to boot using a minimal Linux install to get it up-and-running.

We can't help unless you at least take some notice of what we're suggesting (and trust me, there's some extremely experienced boys & girls on this forum). You ask for advice.....then proceed to completely ignore it!!

And anyway; why would you want a sound system utilty installed into a disk partitioning utility? Doesn't make the slightest bit of sense.....


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PostPosted: Sat 27 Jan 2018, 18:08    Post subject:  

'why would you want a sound system utilty installed into a disk partitioning utility? Doesn't make the slightest bit of sense..... '

Mike, the problem is, I don't have any other OS running, other than GP Live, since last Sept so I'd been trying to get info on how to install Puppy through GP Live. Since the majority of suggestions offer it'd be almost impossible, I'm trying to find some small solutions in using GP Live. I can only use a browser to surf the net so I need to find some improvements within that limitation.
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PostPosted: Sat 27 Jan 2018, 18:50    Post subject:  

Mm-hm. 'Kay-y-y.....

If I get this correctly, you don't have an available optical drive; no? So whatever you do, needs to be done via a USB drive.

You say you do have a browser; yes? Will it download a Puppy ISO?

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Dependent on answers to the above two questions, as I see it, you have 3 options:-

Download the Puppy ISO of your choice. Then.....

1 ) You download & use UNetbootin, and create a 'Puppy on a stick' that way. (Install locally - from your ISO image you've downloaded, not from the 'downloads' list).

2 ) You try Etcher (by resin.io), which is an AppImage. These are like self-contained, standalone 'Portable Apps' for Linux, and will run under any Linux OS. If Parted Magic is powered by Debian, you should have no problem with this. Or:-

3 ) You try the 'quick & dirty' method.....and install your bootloader manually. If this 'GPartedLive' is Debian-based, I'm betting it's GRUB2 (a horrible, complicated abortion of a thing, whose single biggest problem is that it just doesn't see the SFS packages that comprise Puppy!). If needs be, we can advise on the clauses required to be added to GRUB2 in order to boot Puppy; I believe there's several examples floating around the Forum in various locations.

(In fact, if you do it this last way, you can install Grub4DOS locally (to the USB drive), then just boot through BIOS. Or if you have the luxury of a 'one-time boot menu', use that instead.)

That's the best I can think of, that actually stand an ice-cube's chance in hell of working on your somewhat odd setup...


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PostPosted: Sun 28 Jan 2018, 01:02    Post subject:  

Mike,

it seems Etcher would work best for me. How can I unzip & run it?
I have a few a few ISO's d/lowded, X-Slacko 4.3 is one of them.

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PostPosted: Sun 28 Jan 2018, 06:35    Post subject:  

@kuman11:-

You don't unzip AppImages. You simply click on them to run as they are. The app will take a little while to start, as it's 'unpacking' itself into /tmp, from where it runs.

Make sure you set the mode to executable, as they don't come like this by default. I can't guarantee this will work for you; it runs in some of my Pups, but not in others.....it seems a bit 'choosy' as to it's working environment.

UNetbootin, on the other hand, I can guarantee will work, anywhere.

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EDIT:- My mistake, it comes as a .zip file. In that case, go into the directory where you've downloaded it, open a terminal in that directory, then run

Code:
unzip etcher-1.3.1-linux-i386.zip


.....which should unpack it for you. Then follow the above instructions.

(If you want to set exec permissions for the AppImage, again, in the same directory, open a terminal, and run this:-

Code:
chmod 755 etcher-1.3.1-i386.AppImage


.....which will set the 'mode' as executable. Which should work; or, you may need to set the full 'path' for the file.)


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PostPosted: Sun 28 Jan 2018, 10:57    Post subject:  

If you have no way of making a Live Puppy USB install.
https://www.osdisc.com/products/puppy

Sorry flash for having to post this!
I am not trying to post an add for this service.
Only trying to help this person.

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PostPosted: Sun 28 Jan 2018, 11:50    Post subject:  

I unzipped it, made it exec then upon clicking it didn't show any signs it's running in /tmp ...

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PostPosted: Sun 28 Jan 2018, 13:06    Post subject:  

With unetbootin got this:

user@debian:~$ chmod +657 ./unetbootin-linux-657.bin
user@debian:~$ sudo ./unetbootin-linux-657.bin
sudo ./unetbootin-linux-657.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libpng12.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

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PostPosted: Sun 28 Jan 2018, 13:19    Post subject:  

without the + sign got this:

bash: ./unetbootin-linux-657.bin: Permission denied
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PostPosted: Sun 28 Jan 2018, 13:28    Post subject:  

@kuman11:-

D/l and install this:-

http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/pool/main/libp/libpng/libpng12-0_1.2.49-1+deb7u2_i386.deb

That will install the libpng12 libraries. It's a .deb package, from the 'Wheezy' stable branch.


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PostPosted: Sun 28 Jan 2018, 17:45    Post subject:  

Mike,

when unetbootin appeared I also got this
'7z not found. This is required for either install mode.
Install the "p7zip-full" package or your distribution's equivalent.'

what's the best link for me?

meanwhile I had only this iso handy 'slacko64-6.3.2-uefi.iso' so I proceeded to install it. Got to completed, though I didn't restart the ACER. 1st, I have an old 2008 BIOS.
2nd GParted Live is altogether in RAM so I risk losing e/t done so far upon booting.
I put all this on the sda2 partition which I kept for Puppy.

When I browsed GP Live, it has grub 1 & 2 with all the .deb versions on it, to let u know.
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PostPosted: Mon 29 Jan 2018, 13:40    Post subject:  

Mike,

I installed p7zip-full. There's any way to backup the current configuration so it's not lost upon rebooting?

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PostPosted: Mon 05 Feb 2018, 17:17    Post subject: can u flag the 2 partitions on the same usb stick as boot  

Mike, can u flag the 2 partitions on the same usb stick as boot?
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