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How do I burn a .mp4 track with PBurn?
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Mike Walsh


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PostPosted: Tue 06 Feb 2018, 19:37    Post subject:  How do I burn a .mp4 track with PBurn?
Subject description: Would like to burn a large .mp4 track with pBurn so it'll play on a normal DVD player...
 

Evening, boys & girls.

Got a wee query here for you.

I know I've done this before in Puppy, but cannot for the life of me remember how I did it. I'm attempting to burn some downloaded Westerns to DVD for an old mate of mine, so's he can watch them on his DVD player at home. Not on a computer.....just a bog-standard DVD player.

These are all in .mp4 format.

I've tried burning with the 'Burn Video' setting, but it keeps telling me it can't find a file-system with 'chapters' and all the rest of it. It won't; this is simply a single, 105 minute long .mp4 track.

I've tried burning it as a 'Data disc'; it'll play back fine on my new DVD drive on the big Compaq (had to replace the old one earlier today, 'cos the tray mechanism quit working), but trying to play it back on our DVD player, it says 'Unknown disc'. And won't go any further.

I remember making up a multi-track disc for him some time ago, with a number of short .mp4 tracks, but, like I said, I forget how I did it. I don't remember if I used pBurn, or whether I used something else. It certainly wasn't Windoze; we haven't had it in this house for nearly 4 years, and I did this multi-track disc less than two years ago...

(Might have been 'XFBurn'.....but I doubt it. I have it installed in a couple of Pups, but I quit using it in Ubuntu ages ago 'cos it would never detect the DVD drive..!)

Am I using pBurn wrong? I used the left-hand pane to select the track, then right-clicked to add to the right-hand pane. pBurn started doing its thing, then quit, saying it couldn't find a 'VIDEO_TS' file (whatever that is).

Any 'experts' out there who can set me on the right path, please? Any and all advice will, as always, be very much appreciated; this is not something I tend to do very often, and the old grey matter ain't what it used to be... Laughing


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don570


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PostPosted: Tue 06 Feb 2018, 20:29    Post subject:  

It's been a few years since I burnt a TV show.
I used pdvdsrab and pburn.
I explained it here...
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=599660#599660
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PostPosted: Tue 06 Feb 2018, 21:32    Post subject:  

I'm surprised to hear that a bog-standard DVD player can play mp4 DVDs.
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Mike Walsh


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PostPosted: Tue 06 Feb 2018, 21:46    Post subject:  

@don570:-

I'll take a look at that link, and see what happens. Cheers!

@Flash:-

I've honestly no idea what format a DVD player uses. It's entirely possible I'll need to re-encode to a different format before I can actually use it. pBurn itself doesn't actually mention using .mp4s anyway, so you could well be right!


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Mike Walsh


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PostPosted: Tue 06 Feb 2018, 22:04    Post subject:  

@don570:-

I'm in Xenial, which has pdvdsrab installed by default. Now, then; I tried filling it out the way you suggested, but although it creates the directory 'ThIsIsYoUrNeWmOvIe' under '/', with the 'Audio' and 'VIDEO_TS' directories/files inside it, there's no contents to 'em.

I can't select the 'single file' radio button; it seems to be 'greyed-out'. Is that normal.....or have I missed out a step?

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I see where I'm going wrong with this. pdvdsrab is expecting that I'm wanting to use an existing file on a DVD. I want to use an .mp4 file in my 'DATA' directory.....which isn't on a DVD. Suggestions?


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PostPosted: Tue 06 Feb 2018, 22:30    Post subject:  

Some DVD Players (not all) have support for multi-media playback, typical mp4 files. If that is the case, burning the mp4 files as data should work ( I have done so before with such a dvd player) for playing on the tv. The VIDEO-TS files are part of the video .mkv file (an mkv file is a sort of combination of mp4 and other stuff but it is a completely different file format). It's not common for DVD players to have the latter codec so burning in that file format will almost certainly not work with the DVD player. So the options are: convert the mkv files to mp4 and burn as data (in the case that your DVD player supports mp4 playback). This will be your best option as quality is concerned OR convert to DVD-video format and then burn (this should work on almost all DVD players but the quality is poor). PS. Many new tv's and newer dvd-payers have support for multi-media playback and most commonly have a usb input which can be used.
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PostPosted: Tue 06 Feb 2018, 23:36    Post subject:  

Yes, now that I think about it, I believe my newish LCD TV will play mp4 files, but I've never used it for that so I don't know how. Perhaps they have to be put on a USB stick or streamed over wifi.
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drunkjedi


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PostPosted: Wed 07 Feb 2018, 00:43    Post subject:  

A branded TV or DVD player will only play according to his liking only.
While a non branded TV or DVD player will play whatever you throw at it.
But that's just my experience.

Writing the mp4 in a data disc will play it in most DVD players, I think.
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TyroBGinner

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PostPosted: Wed 07 Feb 2018, 02:47    Post subject:  

Digital video is complicated.

This is tricky because of all the fragmentaion in data types and hardware. An old, basic DVD player can't play anything other than the narrow range of items that it was made to play. More recent disc playes likely can automatically detect - or detect with a bit of user guidance - a number of forms in which video occurs these days. It would be far more convenient if the target player is a present-day device.

If not, I am afraid the source mp4 will have to converted into the vob files used by regular DVDs. This will mean processing the audio and video streams in the mp4 by removing them and transcoding them into the mpeg2video and ac3 encodings then packaging them into the vob container. FFmpeg can do this in a single command.

Then ifo and bup files will have to be constructed for the vob files and video_ts files will be needed to contain chapter and title data as well as provide an on-screen video menu from which chapters can be selected. This sort of thing can be done with a dvd authoring program. One such proram that is at least somewhat free and open source is called "bombono".

All of this is not all that trivial, and I have never done it...having given up after seeing what was required. It would be a lot easier for the target device to have current codecs in it and a usb connection so you could put the mp4 on a flash drive. The player's on-screen interface will let you browse through the drive's files like a graphical file viewer on a computer.
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PostPosted: Wed 07 Feb 2018, 04:03    Post subject:  

Flash wrote:
Yes, now that I think about it, I believe my newish LCD TV will play mp4 files, but I've never used it for that so I don't know how. Perhaps they have to be put on a USB stick or streamed over wifi.

You are lucky. Simply copy your mp4's to the flash drive. It may or not be necessary to format the flashdrive in FAT (ext2,3 and 4 will probably not work) if it is not.
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PostPosted: Wed 07 Feb 2018, 04:18    Post subject:  

I use an extremely easy to use and powerful burning program called Burnaware Professional. It's a windows program (don't know if it will work with Wine and there's a portable version). I've just checked the create DVD option and the pop-up box says: Add the folder which contains the VOB, IFO and BUP files, called VIDEO_TS. It then does the burning. May be your best option if you have those files. A newer dvd player should play it. The other options as mentioned still stands.
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PostPosted: Wed 07 Feb 2018, 07:15    Post subject:  

To burn an mp4 to DVD PBurn converts the mp4 into DVD format mpeg, which is actually a .VOB file in the VIDEO_TS folder

DVD players basically only recognise one format and one bitrate, hence why they can only fit a certain number of minutes on a single layer dvd, from memory 74mins. Many newer DVD players also incorporate mp4 decoding, divx, xvid etc. A lot also have USB input now..

PBurn should work by adding the mp4, clicking the burn video setting, and then clicking the big burn icon and away it'll go.

I am not sure about Precise, but I know there was an issue with Tahr in that it didn't have ffmpeg included as standard, which PBurn uses to convert the video format. There is detail about creating a symlink from avconv to be named ffmpeg to trick PBurn into using that instead.

It is all a little complex if there are problems, but should work once set up right.

If in doubt, of course check with Zigbert here:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=23881
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PostPosted: Wed 07 Feb 2018, 07:17    Post subject:  

I dual boot with knoppix so I can cheat and use everything there.

However, I've just had a play with Xenial and Pburn and here is how you do it -

1) Open pburn and choose the files you want to convert and burn
pburn will not create a menu so you will get one long continuous movie if you choose more than one file!
2) Go to the file options at the top and click 'Tools' then 'Author files in list' and choose either files or iso (iso can be burnt by anything).
3) Choose where you want to save and what video type you want wide/full etc
4) It will convert your files as requested (takes some time)
5) Burn it however you want

For a menu you need another program, something like devede which will give you that option. If you just want one movie per disc then Pburn will do.

Hope this helps Smile

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Mike Walsh


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PostPosted: Wed 07 Feb 2018, 16:32    Post subject:  

Well, I don't quite know what's going on here, I really don't.

I've tried authoring with both pBurn ( thanks headfound), and pdvdrsab (thanks don570). I've done this with both, in several different Pups.....and I cannot make it do whatever it is it's supposed to do.

Absolutely nothing happens. Period.

I don't know if it's my hardware, or the software; more likely, it's me. (I'm having a particularly 'dense' spell ATM. Embarassed )

C'mon, boys & girls; what am I doing wrong here, please? I know I've done this before in Pup, so.....surely I can repeat whatever it was I did last time..!

(*Oh, what it is to get old; jeeez*) They say short-term memory's the first to go, don't they....? Laughing)


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PostPosted: Wed 07 Feb 2018, 16:47    Post subject:  

That's strange, it worked first time for me.
Obvious first question (which I'm sure you have checked) -
Do you have enough room to render/save the dvd?
I'm using a frugal install so both the save directory for the final processed dvd files and pburns working directory (in preferences) are set to use a folder on my hard drive (actually the root of c: / sda )
I'm pretty sure it checks to see if there is enough room first and will not work otherwise

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