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Mike Walsh


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PostPosted: Sun 13 May 2018, 15:50    Post subject:  

fredx181 wrote:
Mike Walsh wrote:
@ Fred:-

The silly thing is, it's not the desktop that's freezing-up; that still responds!

It's just the individual applications that are seizing solid. Figure that one out, if you can.....


Mike. Wink


Weird..., let me understand exactly "it's not the desktop that's freezing-up".
You mean mouse and keyboard are still working, but that's all.. or... ?

Fred


Let me try to be a bit more descriptive. Mouse and keyboard still function, yes. I can click on things, and they respond, yes. I can open new applications. But after a minute or two of anything being opened, it ceases to respond to any controls.....including the window manager.

I've lost count of the number of things I've had to kill, because they refuse to close. I've never had anything like this happen before, which is why I'm so puzzled.....


Mike. Confused

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Mike Walsh


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PostPosted: Sun 13 May 2018, 16:12    Post subject:  

rcrsn51 wrote:
Mike: From the Xorg.0.log, it looks like the Radeon driver was loaded. I'm guessing that the RS480 card doesn't need any additional firmware, so X was able to start on its own.

Since you've got the right video driver, I don't know what else to suggest.

LateAdopter: Thanks. I didn't understand that either.


Hi, Bill.

Mm. I'm stumped, too. I do hope this isn't a sign of things to come...

I know I've heard of situations where a certain piece of hardware works perfectly for dozens, if not 100's of kernel 'point' releases.....then all of a sudden, it quits (or starts behaving in a totally different way.) Lots of people complain; within a couple of releases, someone at kernelHQ has got his wrists slapped for changing things that didn't need changing, and.....hey presto! things are back to how they were before.

Perhaps a kernel change would help. How do you actually do that with these 'Dogs'.....or can you perform the same 'manual' swap we do in Puppies?


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PostPosted: Sun 13 May 2018, 19:03    Post subject:  

Mike Walsh wrote:
Perhaps a kernel change would help. How do you actually do that with these 'Dogs'.....or can you perform the same 'manual' swap we do in Puppies?


Yes, worth trying, if you have time can you try this 4.4 kernel ? (it's from Xenial) EDIT: 32 bit
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/b18woqcarxwrxzo/00-kernel-4.4.0-124.tar.gz?dl=1
Contents of this archive:
- 00-kernel-4.4.0-124.squashfs
- initrd1.xz
- vmlinuz
Just put these in the "casper" folder.
Replace original initrd1.xz and vmlinuz with the ones from the archive.
(better make backup of original files first by renaming them).

I'd appreciate if you test this, then we possibly know if the problem is because of the 4.15 kernel or not .

EDIT: Ooops, I realize now that I don't know if you used 32 or 64 bit.
Anyway this is for 32 bit.

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PostPosted: Sun 13 May 2018, 21:44    Post subject:  

Hi, Fred.

Yeah, no worries, mate; be happy to. Won't be till the morning, though; it's 2.30 am here in the UK, and I'm more than ready for some shut-eye...

Bear with me, and I'll let you know what happens sometime tomorrow. We'll see if it makes any difference.

(BTW; I am using 32-bit, yes; it's my usual preference if I have a choice.)


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PostPosted: Mon 14 May 2018, 03:56    Post subject: OKULAR GTK  

REGARDS

WHO KNOWS TO CREATE
OKULAR GTK IN BIONIC?


THANKS!
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Mike Walsh


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PostPosted: Mon 14 May 2018, 06:17    Post subject:  

Morning, Fred.

Well, I don't know if this is what you were expecting, but this is what happened:-

Swapped over initrd1.xz and vmlinuz. Booted up. The boot process went OK, right up until the end.....then there was a load of stuff about the X server, amongst which was

Code:
...Fatal server error. No screens found.....


.....and which ended up with

Code:
...terminated with error (1). Closing log file.
xinit: giving up
xinit: unable to connect to X server. Connection refused.
xinit: server error
root@live: ~#


Attached is the current contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log. Remove the fake .gz, of course.

I'll leave it with ya.


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PostPosted: Mon 14 May 2018, 06:39    Post subject:  

Hi Mike,

Looks like you did something wrong, I tested this and it should work booting with the 4.4. kernel.
Code:
root@live:~# uname -a
Linux live 4.4.0-124-generic #148-Ubuntu SMP Wed May 2 13:01:51 UTC 2018 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux


In your Xorg.log I see you are still booting the 4.15.0-15 kernel
Code:
[    35.627] Current Operating System: Linux live 4.15.0-15-generic #16-Ubuntu SMP Wed Apr 4 13:58:15 UTC 2018 i686


Ok, so you replaced vmlinuz and initrd1.xz with the ones from the archive, but did you also add "00-kernel-4.4.0-124.squashfs" in the casper folder ?

If you didn't, can you try again ? No need to hurry Wink

EDIT: Oh, I see just now that your attached xorg.log is from yesterday... confused...
Code:
[    35.641] (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Sun May 13 11:38:45 2018


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PostPosted: Mon 14 May 2018, 06:52    Post subject: Re: bluetooth  

rcrsn51 wrote:
tlchost wrote:
27818 root 0:00 grep blue

That indicates that the bluetoothd daemon didn't start. In my setups, it always starts as soon as you plug in an adapter.

If it doesn't start first, the bluealsa daemon probably won't start either.

Type: /etc/init.d/bluetooth start
What happens?

Which Bionic Dog version are you running? 32 or 64bit?


Didn't start....Maybe it's because I'm running on a usb drive and it's the 18.5 pae version?

Sorry to have troubled you....I don't think I'll chase after bluetooth any more...taking up too much of my time and yours.
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PostPosted: Mon 14 May 2018, 07:16    Post subject:  

I released this project back in January. Since then, there have been many anonymous downloads and zero feedback.

So I can't say if your situation is the exception or the rule.
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18.5 pae version

I don't know what that is.
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PostPosted: Mon 14 May 2018, 08:23    Post subject:  

rcrsn51 wrote:
I released this project back in January. Since then, there have been many anonymous downloads and zero feedback.

So I can't say if your situation is the exception or the rule.
Quote:
18.5 pae version

I don't know what that is.


UPup Bionic Beaver (upupbb) 18.05 (May 2018)

Not a problem...Glad it works for others...thankfully I have decent speakers that do not require bluetooth.
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PostPosted: Mon 14 May 2018, 08:31    Post subject:  

tlchost wrote:
UPup Bionic Beaver (upupbb) 18.05 (May 2018)

??????
That's a Puppy. BionicDog is not. BT4Stretch is designed to work in a full Debian/Ubuntu environment. Puppy doesn't have that.

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Glad it works for others.

?????
If no one reports, I have no idea how it works for them.
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PostPosted: Mon 14 May 2018, 08:33    Post subject:  

@majka: Any update on this situation?
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PostPosted: Mon 14 May 2018, 11:30    Post subject:  

Hi again, Fred.

Yah; my fault, I think. I only put the initrd1.xz and vmlinux into /casper. I'll be honest, I couldn't see what the 3rd item (the squashfs one) was supposed to do!

It all boots up OK now. However, I still can't import bookmarks into Quantum..... Can't convert my Google-Chrome 48.0.2564.115.pet into a .deb, either; pet2deb says the file doesn't exist, it's hit an unrecoverable error.....now closing. Mind you, that could be a permissions thing, because of the file's location when I was trying to convert it. I'll experiment with that a bit more.

I can't quite figure it out. The FF-Quantum portable you put together works brilliantly in all my Pups.....yet the version you've built into BionicDog seems to have a bug in it. At least, the copy I've got hold of seems to....???

(The 'freezing-up'/unresponsive thing appears to be confined to the Firefox 'Library' window during my repeated attempts to import my bookmarks from an HTML file. It's not affecting anything else.....YET.)

Still, we've made progress. Smile If I can install gDebi from the repos, I might see if I can install a newish version of Iron, instead. It's my favourite Chrome 'clone'. I'm guessing I'll need to log-in as 'puppy' for that, though, since they definitely won't run as /root.....


Mike. Wink

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PostPosted: Mon 14 May 2018, 16:28    Post subject:  

Hi Mike, looks like the older kernel solved your problem.
That's good news ! (but also bad news, because it seems that the newer kernel doesn't support some hardware anymore).
I'll make similar package with the 4.4 kernel for 64-bit later (as fallback, there may be others with the same problem)
Quote:
Can't convert my Google-Chrome 48.0.2564.115.pet into a .deb

Just my opinion: I wouldn't recommend using pet packages.
Btw, you can ignore all messages like "Cannot stat ...." when converting pet to deb.
(it needs to be fixed, by suppressing these messages, on TODO list...)

Here's a deb for google-chrome 48 32-bit.
After install there should be menu entry "Google Chrome (as puppy)" (starting script: /usr/local/bin/chrome-puppy.sh)
https://fredx181.github.io/bionicdog/NoRepo/google-chrome-stable_48.0.2564.109-1_i386.deb
First do (if not recently done):
Code:
apt-get update # update the package lists

Then can be installed by right-click from pcmanfm > Install deb (no need for Gdebi)
Or from terminal:
Code:
dpkg -i google-chrome-stable_48.0.2564.109-1_i386.deb
apt-get -f install # force installing missing dependencies

EDIT: Strangely, the first time running Google Chrome from menu it doesn't start, but when I tried again it does start (and everytime after) Rolling Eyes

Quote:
The FF-Quantum portable you put together works brilliantly in all my Pups.....yet the version you've built into BionicDog seems to have a bug in it.


Mmm.. strange, because I've put it together including the same binaries.

Fred

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PostPosted: Tue 15 May 2018, 05:29    Post subject:  

@mikeslr: On May 3, you started a discussion about PeasyWiFi and WEP encryption.

You never returned, so I set up another router with WEP. It worked for me.

A confirmation from you would be nice.
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