Puppy Linux Discussion Forum Forum Index Puppy Linux Discussion Forum
Puppy HOME page : puppylinux.com
"THE" alternative forum : puppylinux.info
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

The time now is Thu 21 Nov 2019, 10:01
All times are UTC - 4
 Forum index » Advanced Topics » Puppy Projects
BionicDog (updated: 2018-06-04)
Moderators: Flash, JohnMurga
Post new topic   Reply to topic View previous topic :: View next topic
Page 55 of 57 [844 Posts]   Goto page: Previous 1, 2, 3, ..., 53, 54, 55, 56, 57 Next
Author Message
PeteAir


Joined: 01 May 2009
Posts: 43
Location: Texas

PostPosted: Thu 13 Jun 2019, 07:49    Post subject:  

wiak, I thought it was odd too. The symlink must have got deleted with a program uninstall. I took out firefox, thunderbird, and the email that came in dog. Installed vivaldi deb and it works very well along with palemoon. Overall BionicDog64 is the best of both worlds ubuntu for system/program updates and with a frugal install, no messing with win10 partitions.

pete
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
dcung

Joined: 13 Jul 2018
Posts: 236
Location: Down Under - 3rd rock from Sun.

PostPosted: Fri 21 Jun 2019, 17:58    Post subject: Startup Script - to start firefox on 2nd monitor.  

Hi all,
I dedicated a laptop (BionicDog64) with external monitor (TV).
How do I startup Firefox browser on the external monitor (TV) automatically?
If I put in Startup dir, it starts on the laptop monitor. Then I drag it across.
So, I'm after a sample script to put in Startup for this purpose.
Something equivalent to start maximized (in MS Windows) on 2nd monitor (TV). Thanks.

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=116420
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
mouldy


Joined: 04 May 2005
Posts: 637

PostPosted: Sat 29 Jun 2019, 21:21    Post subject:  

Finally got around to trying this dog. 32bit one with firmware. I rather like it and its nice having apt-get in a Puppy-like system.

But it was bit hassle to get online. It only has Peasy Wifi and no ppp. My only way of connecting is tethering to a 3G cell phone. I either need ppp and pppconfig or connman with oFono plugin.

So to get going I tethered LxPup to cell phone, then created a hotspot. Connected Dog to that hotspot with Peasy and used apt-get to install ppp and pppconfig. Ppp seemed to add wvdial for some reason. But hey the more the merrier, since it had wvdial, added gnome-ppp. Anyway it now can tether.

And believe it or not apparently there are still one million people in USA connecting through dialup. They need it too. Yea can be a problem getting broadband in rural areas. Thank you clueless politicians. Only a guess, but imagine those with only dialup mostly use it with an email client for text emails??? Dialup is pretty unusable for much surfing unless its some non profit site with static html like in the old days.

But friendly suggestion that you either include ppp and pppconfig or else make them available as a complete package with necessary dependencies for those needing them. Pretty small but painful to try and do manually piecemeal. Tethering at bare minimum, either requires ppp or as an alternative, connman with oFono plugin which has its own stack so no need for ppp. I have played some with oFono but without a small tool called cmcc, have been unable to get it working. cmcc was only available in some now deprecated ubuntu only package that included all three necessary bits. Just not lot good clear info on using connman with oFono for the actual low end user. Least not using it without cmcc.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
rufwoof


Joined: 24 Feb 2014
Posts: 3631

PostPosted: Sat 29 Jun 2019, 23:17    Post subject:  

mouldy wrote:
And believe it or not apparently there are still one million people in USA connecting through dialup.

SDF, for instance (who have over 50,000 dialup numbers spread across the US/Canada), charge around $7/month for dialup ssh access, add that on top of perhaps $25/month for a unlimited calling plan and the 'sacrifice' is perhaps just bandwidth/speed (similar cost to broadband). You can do a lot with just ssh/textual, Unix after all is based upon everything is a text file. ssh redditbox.us for instance (you can read but not post with that ... but there are equivalents that cater for both reading and posting). Text based Google searches, Twitter ...etc. then there's mail lists, bboards (that more usually are void of the crap/idiots and instead are much more friendly/helpful). With a reasonable text user interface you're mostly foregoing the multimedia web page https (that google fundamentally owns) 'experience' - that often are unwanted adverts. For the multimedia that you do want to view/see then they can still be downloaded/viewed if desired, but on a on-demand basis rather than it all being thrown at you, wanted or not.

Even with high speed/bandwidth mostly I just use X in order to use chrome and often where I could just use my phone to do the same easier/quicker, but with a smaller (uncomfortable) display. Much of my other online activities are via text user interface, without all the other advert blitz. But yes for the younger generation multimedia tends to be the magnet (as a family we get through around 30GB/day of downloads).

Anther factor is its less addictive. Many might get towards the end of their life and regret having missed so much of real world experiences, instead of wishing they'd spent even more time staring at their phone. Sometimes at home I look around at my kids and their friends all silently staring at their phones, and where they even message each other from across the room rather than look up and talk directly to each other.

_________________
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) :wq
Fatdog multi-session usb

echo url|sed -e 's/^/(c/' -e 's/$/ hashbang.sh)/'|sh
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
mouldy


Joined: 04 May 2005
Posts: 637

PostPosted: Sun 30 Jun 2019, 08:48    Post subject:  

rufwoof wrote:
Sometimes at home I look around at my kids and their friends all silently staring at their phones, and where they even message each other from across the room rather than look up and talk directly to each other.


I am old man that didnt have kids. Not used to being around them. Got invited to Xmas dinner by son of now deceased couple I was friends with. House full of young people. All staring at their cell phones. It was kinda surreal.

I have a cell phone, rarely make calls and its rudimentary browser so old it doesnt really work. Mostly cause its cheapest internet as this prepaid cell deal allows tethering. I ditched my landline some years ago, it had gotten up to $25 a month for basic local account. Dialup was escalating in price as more and more jumped ship so had just gotten notice it would be $14 a month. I switched to prepaid cell hotspot for internet plus a flip phone for voice. This was about same price per month for 4GB data plus voice as I was paying for landline plus dialup. Dialup had become super annoying with modern websites, not really the pics so much as all the scripts. The old static html sites work just well now on dialup as they did twenty years ago. Same if you use an email client and pop3.

However after losing my flip phone last fall, got to looking at what was available. found a prepaid cell service reseller called Red Pocket. They were having sale late November, early December on prepaid 360 day plan. Unlimited voice, unlimited text, 10GB data per 30 days. AND unlike many, they didnt care if you tethered the phone to computer. Said so on their website. Worked out to $23 a month, less than I paid for basic landline service. They sent me a SIM and I bought a used 3G Samsung Eternity with BADA operating system about 8 year old off ebay. Pristine condition for like $15. I still prefer flip phone to carry in my pocket, but this has proven reliable and easy to tether, doesnt overheat like some if you leave them plugged in to powered usb port for tethering.

I thought texting was kinda stupid when you could just call, but found out one can text to an email account. Can also send text to a phone from an email. So if you are out of data for the month.... but have unlimited texting.... Anyway this Samsung has the touch screen keyboard lot easier to text than the old alpha numeric traditional phone keyboard on the flip phone where every key does three things.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
mikeslr


Joined: 16 Jun 2008
Posts: 3491
Location: 500 seconds from Sol

PostPosted: Sun 30 Jun 2019, 11:15    Post subject:  

In a way I was prepared for the surreal social system of the current generation, having read "City", a book by Clifford Simak. It was published in 1952 and I first read it in the late '50s, early '60s. Of course, he got the details wrong. The term "internet" wasn't used -- it didn't exist at that time. IIRC, Simak's analog was based on Ham Radio.

City wasn't exactly either a Sci-fi or fantasy novel. Like the 'Old Testament' it was a collection of short stories following a family --and some others-- thru the generations. It's an interesting read. Warning -- the following is a spoiler. You might want to skip it and hunt down a copy of the book on Amazon (used for about $5) or perhaps it's already in the public domain.

Reliance on inter-personal communications through technology while simultaneously avoiding the sharing of personal space ultimately results in species-wide extreme agoraphobia. With the exception of a few atavists, the human race goes extinct. The stories are told by descendants of dogs which have been modified to possess the power of speech; their lack of manual dexterity overcome by self-perpetuating robots. A fitting book for all Puppy aficionados.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
mouldy


Joined: 04 May 2005
Posts: 637

PostPosted: Sun 30 Jun 2019, 15:01    Post subject:  

There are handful of Clifford Simak books public domain. But City isnt one of them. Several scammy places offering it "free" if you "register". Pay the man the $5 from legit place.

Here are the public domain ones: https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/search/?query=Clifford+Simak
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
proebler

Joined: 24 Jan 2012
Posts: 159
Location: TAS

PostPosted: Sun 30 Jun 2019, 21:21    Post subject:  

mikeslr wrote:
In a way I was prepared for the surreal social system of the current generation, having read "City", a book by Clifford Simak. It was published in 1952 and I first read it in the late '50s, early '60s. Of course, he got the details wrong. The term "internet" wasn't used -- it didn't exist at that time. IIRC, Simak's analog was based on Ham Radio.

City wasn't exactly either a Sci-fi or fantasy novel. Like the 'Old Testament' it was a collection of short stories following a family --and some others-- thru the generations. It's an interesting read. Warning -- the following is a spoiler. You might want to skip it and hunt down a copy of the book on Amazon (used for about $5) or perhaps it's already in the public domain.

Reliance on inter-personal communications through technology while simultaneously avoiding the sharing of personal space ultimately results in species-wide extreme agoraphobia. With the exception of a few atavists, the human race goes extinct. The stories are told by descendants of dogs which have been modified to possess the power of speech; their lack of manual dexterity overcome by self-perpetuating robots. A fitting book for all Puppy aficionados.
Thanks mikesir for the reference
I too have read 'City' a long time ago, never forgot the talking dogs, but lost who wrote the stories and the title of the book.
The library here in TAS has a copy, I placed it on hold and so will be able to read it again, refresh the memory and find out whether the fascination is still there for this old Puppy aficionado.
.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
mouldy


Joined: 04 May 2005
Posts: 637

PostPosted: Sun 30 Jun 2019, 22:41    Post subject:  

I must be getting senile. That wvdial suddenly appearing was bothering me, it shouldnt install with ppp.

Trick is I had first downloaded the version without firmware first. It definitely doesnt have wvdial nor ppp. But seems the version with firmware does. Why apt-get didnt tell me I already had the latest version ppp, dont really know.

So apologies to whomever it may concern. My mistake.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
futuretom

Joined: 22 Dec 2018
Posts: 6

PostPosted: Thu 04 Jul 2019, 13:30    Post subject: cinnamon  

I'm running the cinnamon version and I'm having a hard time replacing nouveau with nvidia. I noticed that sessionctl says I'm logged in to a tty session. Shouldn't that be an X11 session? And would this be interfering with my attempt to install nvidia drivers?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
dancytron

Joined: 18 Jul 2012
Posts: 1388

PostPosted: Thu 04 Jul 2019, 13:56    Post subject:  

Fred, don't know if you saw it, but this looks like a dog question.

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=116516&sid=9c08ecbe3ed662232c466d9185d5831a
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
fredx181


Joined: 11 Dec 2013
Posts: 4165
Location: holland

PostPosted: Thu 04 Jul 2019, 16:04    Post subject:  

Yes, also posted in the beginners/help section, answered there but I'm not sure what's exactly the issue.
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=1031544#1031544

Fred

_________________
Dog Linux website
Tinylinux blog by wiak
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
magerlab

Joined: 08 Jul 2007
Posts: 739

PostPosted: Tue 09 Jul 2019, 07:05    Post subject: connect android phone to Bionic Dog  

I've recently revived my old Asus 1001px netbook by installing BionicDog and it seems to work as expected. The only thing I can miss is connect my android phone. Is there a way to do as in other puppies ?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
wiak

Joined: 11 Dec 2007
Posts: 1830
Location: not Bulgaria

PostPosted: Tue 09 Jul 2019, 09:30    Post subject: Re: connect android phone to Bionic Dog  

magerlab wrote:
I've recently revived my old Asus 1001px netbook by installing BionicDog and it seems to work as expected. The only thing I can miss is connect my android phone. Is there a way to do as in other puppies ?


I have done this long ago using MTP but alas forget the details. It was flaky back then but probably fine nowadays. Biggest problem when googling this is the provided 'answers' tend to expect you to have full gnome desktop or similar, which really isn't necessary. Maybe the following link will help (tho maybe its a bit old):

https://askubuntu.com/questions/854332/how-to-connect-android-7-1-to-ubuntu-linux-with-usb

wiak

_________________
Tiny Linux Blog: http://www.tinylinux.info/
Check Firmware: www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=1022797
tinycore/slitaz: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=990130#990130
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
magerlab

Joined: 08 Jul 2007
Posts: 739

PostPosted: Mon 15 Jul 2019, 07:20    Post subject:  

I've managed to connect my phone using camphonetab. So for now BionicDog fits the netbook very well. I want to transfer the casper folder with changes to to another laptop which has grub2. Are there any instructions on what one have to put into Grub2 to boot bionicdog without installing grub4dos?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
Display posts from previous:   Sort by:   
Page 55 of 57 [844 Posts]   Goto page: Previous 1, 2, 3, ..., 53, 54, 55, 56, 57 Next
Post new topic   Reply to topic View previous topic :: View next topic
 Forum index » Advanced Topics » Puppy Projects
Jump to:  

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group
[ Time: 0.2550s ][ Queries: 12 (0.0856s) ][ GZIP on ]