BionicPup32 (UPupBB) (27 June 2020)

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Max Headroom · #616 Post by **Max Headroom** » Sat 27 Apr 2019, 01:17

popfan, Use isobooter...

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 46&t=67235

;-)K

popfan · #617 Post by **popfan** » Sat 27 Apr 2019, 17:05

Max Headroom wrote:popfan, Use isobooter...

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 46&t=67235

;-)K

thanx for reply, will try.

OscarTalks · #618 Post by **OscarTalks** » Sat 27 Apr 2019, 22:38

Going back to the problem of lifeograph refusing to run,
While experimenting a bit with Gnome MPV which is also GTK3, I discovered that the issue seems to be that icon resources are missing.

The default icon theme for GTK3 is adwaita-icon-theme
If I install this in Bionic32 via PPM, lifeograph from PPM will then run.
There is a cut-down version of this icon theme in Ubuntu, but it drags in other icon theme stuff as "dependencies" and ends up quite large.

We seem to get away with just having libgtk-3 on board to get the browsers running, but if we want Puppy to be able to run other GTK3 stuff in future I think someone will need to take a look at the issue of themes and icons for it. Even with the browsers there are missing icons in the chooser dialogs. Maybe I will start another thread about this, but it will be in the hope that others with better understanding than me can suggest what could be included without adding too much unnecessary bloat.

davids45 · #619 Post by **davids45** » Tue 30 Apr 2019, 22:25

G'day,

I'm now having to manually run the wizard in this Pup and some other Pups that I felt sure I did not have to do not long ago.

I am changing from an ethernet connection on the home network to wifi.

This does slow down the connecting process a bit so could it be a timing issue - the wizard gives up too soon.

The Simple Network Setup (SNS) wizard is definitely affected, and I'm now trying Frisbee (haven't restarted yet). I think Dougals wizard is also in the 'now won't start at boot-up' camp.

SOLUTION (Cause): I had made links of the wizard config files residing in /etc to my data partition to share the profiles between Pups.
Alas, I now see that the wifi connection process starts up before the data partition is mounted by the script in /root/Startup

.
So there is effectively no profile for the wizard to use during booting.
I have to find a way to do this perhaps in one of the Pup's sfs drv files, or create just one for these links to include with each Pup - a l-drv (links drive)
maybe?

David s.

jrb · #620 Post by **jrb** » Sat 04 May 2019, 12:20

davids45 wrote:G'day,

I'm now having to manually run the wizard in this Pup and some other Pups that I felt sure I did not have to do not long ago.

I am changing from an ethernet connection on the home network to wifi.

This does slow down the connecting process a bit so could it be a timing issue - the wizard gives up too soon.

The Simple Network Setup (SNS) wizard is definitely affected, and I'm now trying Frisbee (haven't restarted yet). I think Dougals wizard is also in the 'now won't start at boot-up' camp.

SOLUTION (Cause): I had made links of the wizard config files residing in /etc to my data partition to share the profiles between Pups.
Alas, I now see that the wifi connection process starts up before the data partition is mounted by the script in /root/Startup .
So there is effectively no profile for the wizard to use during booting.
I have to find a way to do this perhaps in one of the Pup's sfs drv files, or create just one for these links to include with each Pup - a l-drv (links drive)
maybe?

David s.

David, try putting your data partition mounting script in /etc/init.d instead of /root/Startup. It will start earlier. You can put it to the head of the queue by naming it with a 0 at the beginning, eg: 0_mntmydrv.

gyro · #621 Post by **gyro** » Sat 04 May 2019, 12:53

jrb wrote:David, try putting your data partition mounting script in /etc/init.d instead of /root/Startup. It will start earlier. You can put it to the head of the queue by naming it with a 0 at the beginning, eg: 0_mntmydrv.

If you do, remember that scripts in /etc/init.d get called during startup with a parameter of "start" and again at shutdown with a parameter of "stop".

gyro

davids45 · #622 Post by **davids45** » Sat 04 May 2019, 23:37

G'day jrb and gyro,

David, try putting your data partition mounting script in /etc/init.d instead of /root/Startup. It will start earlier. You can put it to the head of the queue by naming it with a 0 at the beginning, eg: 0_mntmydrv.

Thanks for the advice.
I had already seen the name "0_" prefix idea and use it with my mount script in Startup for all my Pups.

I've now tried your tip with /etc/init.d in today's first Pup (LxPupSc-19.04 with the 64-bit 5.0.5 kernel) and it is looking fine. I also added to /etc/init.d a script to load a temperature module now that Boot manager is broken in quite a few Pups (most Bionics I think, Sc (Slackos) are still OK, but this is simpler than running Boot manager anyway).

So I'll slowly work through my Pups with this init.d refinement, and add to new Pups as they come along.

David S.

Brant · #623 Post by **Brant** » Wed 08 May 2019, 19:50

After so much work, it seems petty to ask for something else, but
would it be a nuisance to post a SHA 256 checksum?

Thanks

loot · #624 Post by **loot** » Wed 08 May 2019, 23:24

I know this is elementary, but I'm a simple user.

When I try to copy the updated files (usually just puppy*.sfs) to frugal install directory, I get "protected file system, won't copy" or something like that. I'm on an older BionicPup, so how do I force the copy?

loot

6502coder · #625 Post by **6502coder** » Thu 09 May 2019, 02:26

Sounds like you're trying to update the BionicPup while you're running BionicPup. You can't do that; it's like sawing off the branch of a tree you're sitting on.

Boot your BionicPup with "pfix=ram" and then copy over the new SFS. Or boot into any Puppy from a LiveCD/LiveDVD/LiveUSB and then copy over the new SFS.

loot · #626 Post by **loot** » Thu 09 May 2019, 22:35

Actually I'm using a fresh iso and delta.
Also, I tried to delete the adrv file, wouldn't let me do that either.

loot.

musher0 · #627 Post by **musher0** » Fri 10 May 2019, 01:12

loot wrote:Actually I'm using a fresh iso and delta.
Also, I tried to delete the adrv file, wouldn't let me do that either.

loot.

Hi loot.

That's the other branch you'd be sitting on!

All PuppyLinux's have a main puppy_xyz.sfs and a zdrv. The zdrv contains the
kernel modules. So that's two branches you can't cut.

Counting your pupsave file or folder, that makes three.

The more recent Puppies can also have an adrv, an fdrv, and / or a ydrv. So, in total,
in a Puppy, you may have as many as six branches you're not supposed to "cut".

You were considering a career in pruning, I suppose?!

IHTH.

6502coder · #628 Post by **6502coder** » Fri 10 May 2019, 02:46

loot wrote:Actually I'm using a fresh iso and delta.
Also, I tried to delete the adrv file, wouldn't let me do that either.

Um....You need EITHER the latest ISO, OR the ORIGINAL ISO plus the latest delta. If you have the latest ISO, you do not need the delta. If you only have the ORIGINAL ISO and the latest delta, you have to apply the delta to the ISO to produce the latest ISO.

Sage · #629 Post by **Sage** » Fri 10 May 2019, 06:59

Um....You need EITHER the latest ISO, OR the ORIGINAL ISO plus the latest delta. If you have the latest ISO, you do not need the delta. If you only have the ORIGINAL ISO and the latest delta, you have to apply the delta to the ISO to produce the latest ISO.

Q.E.D. ! Out, out damn deltae!

peebee · #630 Post by **peebee** » Sat 11 May 2019, 12:54

11-may-2019

iso md5 = 1d3401a56b750cb8589b88015f098fd4 bionicpup32-8.0+5-uefi.iso

see post #1

sheldonisaac · #631 Post by **sheldonisaac** » Sat 11 May 2019, 14:09

peebee wrote:11-may-2019
iso md5 = 1d3401a56b750cb8589b88015f098fd4 bionicpup32-8.0+5-uefi.iso
see post #1

Got it. Many thanks.

> ls -lt /mnt/home/upup32/
total 230424
drwxr-xr-x 9 root root 4096 May 11 09:39 upupbbsave-may11
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 203497472 May 11 07:38 puppy_upupbb_19.03.sfs
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2585690 May 11 07:32 initrd.gz
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 24334336 Mar 14 12:43 zdrv_upupbb_19.03.sfs
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5528448 Mar 14 11:46 vmlinuz

loot · #632 Post by **loot** » Sat 11 May 2019, 20:12

Howto:
- download .delta and put into same directory as base .iso
- click on .delta to generate new .iso
- check md5 sumcheck of new .iso against *.iso.md5.txt file contents
- click on new .iso to open it
- copy updated files (usually just puppy*.sfs) to frugal install directory
- close new .iso by clicking on it
- reboot
Source: README.txt, updated 2019-04-15

This is what I followed. But I didn't check of the md5 sum of the new .iso; would that make a difference?

I read the adrv contains the web browser and can be replaced. Why couldn't I just delete it?

loot.

rockedge · #633 Post by **rockedge** » Sat 11 May 2019, 21:17

you can

paulh177 · #634 Post by **paulh177** » Tue 14 May 2019, 17:38

This all works out-of-the-box for me so far as I can tell, but my needs are fairly simple, except ...

I've gotten used to having to reinstall & reconfigure all my applications every time I want to move to a later Puppy, but JWM config setup seems to have changed out of all recognition, and I can't seem to just copy over the .~/.jwm* files & directory plus the PuppyPin and have my working environment look the same.

Is there a quick/easy way to dump that fcking menu-bar-thing at the top and revert to an old-style icons-on-the-desktop setup?
Or even a slow/painful way?

thanknx

peebee · #635 Post by **peebee** » Tue 14 May 2019, 18:45

paulh177 wrote:Is there a quick/easy way to dump that ..... menu-bar-thing at the top and revert to an old-style icons-on-the-desktop setup?
Or even a slow/painful way?

Desktop -> Puppy theme manager -> Original Pup -> Apply

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