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sszindian


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PostPosted: Sat 12 May 2018, 14:01    Post subject: TazPup  

Question?

Will TazPup retain the rolling-release status like original Slataz does?

'thanks'

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don570


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PostPosted: Sat 12 May 2018, 16:02    Post subject:  

I tested alpha4 and everything went well.

I could use ssh to contact a raspberry pi2 board. Cool

I didn't like beaver text editor. Crying or Very sad
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I suggest ...

BarryK likes uses default applications.

Here are some of the many BarryK created

/usr/local/bin/defaultaudioplayer
/usr/local/bin/defaultpaint
/usr/local/bin/defaultspreadsheet
/usr/local/bin/defaultterm
/usr/local/bin/defaulttexteditor
/usr/local/bin/defaultwordprocessor
/usr/local/bin/defaultmail
/usr/local/bin/defaultdraw
/usr/local/bin/defaulthtmleditor
/usr/local/bin/defaultimageviewer
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For compatibility with puppy linux some splash app like yaf-splash
is needed

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=67038
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PostPosted: Sat 12 May 2018, 16:06    Post subject: puppy_tazpup_4.4.sfs  

Modify puppy_tazpup_4.4.sfs

I was able to modify the sfs file in fatdog64 linux using the instructions
that I got from fatdog64 site. This allowed me to add scripts and apps to tazpup without the need of an installer app
but I need to use a version of linux that has mksquashfs.

Quote:


Get the puppy_tazpup_4.4.sfs from the disk image as explained previously.

Extract the puppy_tazpup_4.4.sfs by issuing this command.
It will create a new directory called squashfs-root containing all the files inside puppy_tazpup_4.4.sfs in the current directory.

unsquashfs puppy_tazpup_4.4.sfs



Modify other files/scripts/configuration files as needed.

Re-pack (re-generate) the sfs by issuing this command:

mksquashfs squashfs-root puppy_tazpup_4.4.sfs -comp xz -Xbcj arm -noappend



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PostPosted: Sat 12 May 2018, 16:28    Post subject: ptmtimer-2.4.tazpkg  

I modified a timer/alarm program so it works well in tazpup.
Multiple alarms are possible.
Useful little thing.... Laughing
Available:
ptmtimer-2.4.tazpkg
Size:11k
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1vGGQDRN6OtQT9RZ2zc8v8V9X_1TN-6Ki
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smokey01


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PostPosted: Sun 13 May 2018, 01:42    Post subject:  

Posting from TazPupA5-4.k4-4.16.8 now.

I compiled kernel 4.16.8 as per mistfire's request and swapped it into Alpha 5.

All seems to be working Ok. I made a save folder and it is persistent after a reboot.

So far, so good.

It can see all of my 32G RAM. See attached.
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greengeek


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PostPosted: Sun 13 May 2018, 02:10    Post subject:  

smokey01 wrote:
Posting from TazPupA5-4.k4-4.16.8 now.
I compiled kernel 4.16.8 as per mistfire's request and swapped it into Alpha 5..
I'm keen to trial it if you feel like making an iso available? MiddleAged Toshiba hardware here - 32bit with 2GB ram.
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mistfire

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PostPosted: Sun 13 May 2018, 03:27    Post subject:  

Thank you very much @smokey01 I will downloaded that file later within few days

@sszindian Tazpup might be in indefinite release cycle once it was become matured due to time and resources constraint.

@don570 how do you manage to run tazpup on raspberry pi because it is an arm platform while tazpup was x86?

@rg66 Xdelta3 was now installed but I prefer full iso release rather than delta for the meantime

I found some bug to mime type regenration but it is now fixed on my latest experiment also. Puppy packages and other Linux packages are now showing on start menu upon installation
thanks to peebee's lxpup menu files
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PostPosted: Sun 13 May 2018, 03:33    Post subject:  

mistfire wrote:

@rg66 Xdelta3 was now installed but I prefer full iso release rather than delta for the meantime


No worries, although it's easy to do both.

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PostPosted: Sun 13 May 2018, 03:51    Post subject:  

Diff files are great, especially for people with limited bandwidth or slow connections.

Here is a little video I made many years ago to show how to apply a diff file to an ISO. To generate the diff file you simply drag the old ISO into old file area and the new ISO into the new file area and a diff file will be created in the same folder.

http://smokey01.com/videos/diff-files.mpeg

Diff file: http://smokey01.com/temp/tazpup-alpha-4.iso___tazpup-4.4-alpha-5.iso.delta 7792165 bytes.

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mistfire

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PostPosted: Sun 13 May 2018, 09:55    Post subject:  

@smokey01 using your compiled kernel in tazpup can you please view the files in /sys/devices/system/cpu/
vulnerabilities/ and send me the results from your computer

I already downloaded ng pre-compiled kernel and use it. When I read those files, it says that my processor is not affected of meltdown and spectre vulnerability.
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Marv


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PostPosted: Sun 13 May 2018, 12:40    Post subject:  

I've been running the past few versions and with the latest I have good persistence with a savefolder on my EXT2 data partition but haven't yet gotten there with a savefile on my fat32 boot partition. The information seems to be written correctly to the savefile but is not read on reboot.

Now that I have savefolder persistence, I've added in flsynclient for my laptop setup and a couple of other look'n'feel things. Don't have pmount working yet and would like it but once PCManFM is set up it does well enough.

I've played a bit with kernels. Peebees 4.16.x ran fine but I am currently running well with a 4.4.131 32bit made by Sailor Enceladus substituted in. I can't find the link right now Sad It has full spectre and meltdown mitigation and is my current favorite for 'smaller' pups. A couple of things I observed doing the kernel swap. In your iso, the /lib/firmware directory seems to be carried twice, once in the main sfs and once in the stock zdv. When I swapped, I removed the directory in the main sfs and carried it only in the zdrv with no adverse effects seen. Most 'huge' kernels are set up this way. I also pulled the /lib/modules kernel drivers from the main sfs and let the zdrv carry them. Also in line with 'huge' kernel practice. The compression is the same in both cases so size shouldn't change. Just makes kernel swapping easier.

Biggest challenge for old me running tazpup is wrapping my head and fingers around not being root. I'm so used to the rest of the word being sandboxed/spotted/containerized and me root that I fumble the swtch to root and back to make system setup changes or additions.

All in all a bold and pretty stellar work IMO.

Thanks,

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mistfire

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PostPosted: Sun 13 May 2018, 18:39    Post subject:  

@Thanks Marv, @smokey noticed that about savefile issue but I wonder why they cant find the savefile on reboot on their computer. While using savefile works on my computer (savefile was saved in ntfs partition). Also autoappend '/' in psubdir was enabled when user specifies foldername only without '/' prefix

I hope that you find the link for @sailor enceladus' 4.4.131 precompiled kernel so I can test it
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zagreb999

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PostPosted: Sun 13 May 2018, 19:09    Post subject: test  

regards

hp laptop 64bit, 8 gb ram

test in fat32

load in uefi-ok
save -persistence -ok
wifi-ok
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installed firefox 57- does not work

filemount of sfs not work....
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do you intend to:
use full lz4 compression,

quick remaster as in debiandog,
to create sfs files to be loaded...?

xfce version...?
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wiak

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PostPosted: Sun 13 May 2018, 19:49    Post subject:  

Marv wrote:

Biggest challenge for old me running tazpup is wrapping my head and fingers around not being root. I'm so used to the rest of the word being sandboxed/spotted/containerized and me root that I fumble the swtch to root and back to make system setup changes or additions.


Sorry, I haven't been able to test TazPup (broke a couple of ribs) but thought I'd mention that current usual Slitaz allows login to desktop as user root with password 'root'. Don't know if TazPup is difference but imagined it would be the same.

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PostPosted: Sun 13 May 2018, 20:22    Post subject:  

wiak wrote:
Marv wrote:

Biggest challenge for old me running tazpup is wrapping my head and fingers around not being root. I'm so used to the rest of the word being sandboxed/spotted/containerized and me root that I fumble the swtch to root and back to make system setup changes or additions.


Sorry, I haven't been able to test TazPup (broke a couple of ribs) but thought I'd mention that current usual Slitaz allows login to desktop as user root with password 'root'. Don't know if TazPup is difference but imagined it would be the same.

wiak


Yes, Tazpup is the same. It's just bouncing between the two modes and trying to get the configurations for Tux and root somewhat aligned and persistent that I have to get used to.

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