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hamoudoudou

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PostPosted: Sun 03 Jun 2018, 02:50    Post subject: they are topics where people vote .  

they are topics where people vote . do it ! you have your own forum now, Musher0, show us how to do.. One newbie, one user, already banned...
A forum where the pleasure is not to give help, but to ban.. Just slaves for a short while, when needed , and trashed with the abandoned Puppy..
What was the crime of the guy ? he was not understanding explanations Smile
"throw the baby with his bath water" STS or LTS
Official or LXpup, what we need are serious people, not training pupils giving up as soon they are tired, after one week (Melchior). We will get abused once, not twice.
In house training is the section for training
derivatives and official are more serious.

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wiak

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PostPosted: Sun 03 Jun 2018, 02:52    Post subject:  

hamoudoudou wrote:
they are topics where people vote . do it !


Such votes have no practical meaning. They are not official in anyway and do not result in change - this is not a democracy-style-most-votes-win situation Doudou. Sorry, I didn't mean to add further to this thread - I forgot.
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musher0

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PostPosted: Sun 03 Jun 2018, 03:09    Post subject:  

hamoudoudou wrote:
they are topics where people vote . do it !

I know. They are handy, but they are opinion polls. They imply no
subsequent action.

I mean a type of governance for a forum.

On the type of forum I imagine, it should be possible to have

-- forum members (obvious!), who

-- when they have posted a number of posts and / or frequented the
forum a number of months, would be allowed voting power on

-- motions / decisions concerning the forum, including election of a
Board of Governors for the forum.

-- This Board of Governors would select moderators
---- formulate the regulations for the forum
---- write the motions to vote on,
---- also the policy, etc.

Like in a company or a co-operative.

This way you have a representative, democratic, governance for the
forum, not just a single owner who decides / vetoes everything, and
tough it if you do not like it.

BFN.

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PostPosted: Sun 03 Jun 2018, 03:09    Post subject:  

@hamoudoudou

I may have been the "idea man" for the new French Puppy forum, but it is
still a single-owner forum; that owner is "augras", not me.

On augras' ElkArte Puppy forum, the initiator of the thread has editing and
moderating powers for his thread. If there is a spammer on his thread, the
initiator can ban the spammer from his thread. Not from the board: only the
owner of the Board can do that.

It's a different model from the approach here.

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hamoudoudou

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PostPosted: Sun 03 Jun 2018, 03:21    Post subject: That is musherisation.  

you think that you will reorganise society here, ?

we know your ideas, let other ideas be described, then people will vote.. Show us how to do in your french forum..
A nice way for democracy is to kill first those who don't agree with you, than get others vote, at least they agree or are so frightened that they will agree. How many are they ?
Administror and user (2) one person, two votes.. Musher0 who wanted the 'forum' a video developer for ToOpPy, a gambas dev for his own, and the banned poster.. was member here since 2009.
That is musherisation.
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musher0

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PostPosted: Sun 03 Jun 2018, 03:40    Post subject: Re: That is musherisation.  

hamoudoudou wrote:
you think that you will reorganise society here, ?
Nope.
hamoudoudou wrote:
we know your ideas
Nope, but you think you do.
hamoudoudou wrote:
let other ideas be described, then people will vote.. Show us how to do in your french forum..
A nice way for democracy is to kill first those who don't agree with you, than get others vote,
You really think so? Hey, I'm a peaceful guy!
hamoudoudou wrote:
at least they agree or are so frightened that they will agree.
What are you talking about? You are so off-the-cuff, it is ridiculous!
hamoudoudou wrote:
That is musherisation.
Interesting word. I'll try to remember it.
As if anyone could turn you into a mush... !!! (I wish...) Laughing

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PostPosted: Sun 03 Jun 2018, 03:45    Post subject: People who download Puppies are the power  

People who download Puppies are the power (200.000 a least) The fact that they are not interested in suscribing here should light some ideas in clever brains..
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PostPosted: Sun 03 Jun 2018, 03:48    Post subject: Re: People who download Puppies are the power  

hamoudoudou wrote:
People who download Puppies are the power (200.000 a least) The fact that they are not interested in su[bs]scribing here should light some ideas in clever brains..
Whatever you say!

BTW, how do you know so much about that user at the ElkArte French Puppy
forum that was banned? I did not know until you mentioned it. Do I have to
remind you that augras, as the owner of that forum, is free to do as he sees
fit for the proper and good functioning of his forum.

This man is a friend of yours? Or was it you in a different disguise? Your
insistence on this event is becoming suspicious.

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backi

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PostPosted: Sun 03 Jun 2018, 07:20    Post subject:  

Hi !

Wiak wrote here :

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=113518&start=30

Quote:
Maybe the Dogs should have a FAQ (similar to the Puppy FAQ), for its many users, that states that Puppy is accepted as being allowed to share its kennel - after all it is a bigger Dog if we are going to be truthful about this.


Creating a FAQ for the " Dogs " would be an excellent idea !

Regards !
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Mike Walsh


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PostPosted: Sun 03 Jun 2018, 08:36    Post subject:  

Afternoon, all.

Goodness me. Y'know, I don't know why.....but the Bard's oft-maligned comedic masterpiece "Much Ado About Nothing" springs to mind here... Laughing Laughing


Mike. Wink

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PostPosted: Sun 03 Jun 2018, 09:51    Post subject:  

Mike Walsh wrote:
Afternoon, all.

Goodness me. Y'know, I don't know why.....but the Bard's oft-maligned comedic masterpiece "Much Ado About Nothing" springs to mind here... Laughing Laughing

Mike. Wink

Summary for non-Anglophones -- out of politeness, since English is not the
only culture on this Earth --, and of how it applies to this situation, please.

TIA.

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B.K. Johnson

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PostPosted: Sun 03 Jun 2018, 10:36    Post subject:  

@musher0
NO INSULT INTENDED
You being a competent "googler", I'm surprised you asked.
I could have answered but did just that with this search title:
Much Ado About Nothing meaning


here is your answer

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anikin

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PostPosted: Sun 03 Jun 2018, 13:25    Post subject:  

musher0 wrote:
Mike Walsh wrote:
Afternoon, all.

Goodness me. Y'know, I don't know why.....but the Bard's oft-maligned comedic masterpiece "Much Ado About Nothing" springs to mind here... Laughing Laughing

Mike. Wink

Summary for non-Anglophones -- out of politeness, since English is not the
only culture on this Earth --, and of how it applies to this situation, please...
I absolutely can not disagree with Mike Walsh. To nusher0's point - yes there are many cultures in the world. But the official language of this forum is English. Why invent a problem out of nothing?
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PostPosted: Sun 03 Jun 2018, 14:08    Post subject:  

What was the subject of this topic??
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PostPosted: Sun 03 Jun 2018, 14:45    Post subject:  

I’m really surprised that you people think that global worming is not as relevant to this thread! Shocked
Is at least as relevant as anything else discussed here!
Computers require energy.
Old computers require more energy for the same outcome.
Servers require energy.
Internet traffic requires energy.
If forum changes affect computer use or traffic, they affect global worming!
There. Cool Rolling Eyes

Why are more irrelevant posts trying to "secure our interest” or "put forward our priorities" regardless of what this (or any) thread is trying to address? Evil or Very Mad

Obnoxious/Trolling members got another trolling opportunity and another attempt to secure their “trolling rights”.
“Dog” and other “live” developers may felt for some strange reason that this change might be a threat to potential new audience and try to defend the status quo.
Die-hard puppyists (or “I know better” types) thought that this might be an opportunity to “weed off” the forum.
Others simply like the “watering hole” forum environment where everything goes and do not want to disturb it in anyway.
And then you have the….

What it appears to be ignored in all these is that this forum (as the first page suggests) is visited every day from ~150 register users and ~ 30000 guest.
From this 150 register users there are 20-30 that are “vocal” enough to believe that they are the forum, disregarding that for every one of them there are 1000 silent ones. These "silent" visitors hopefully find what they are looking for or face the mess (like this thread) and most likely move on.

What everyone appears to ignore is that without new users that will be able to find what they are coming for in this forum, ie Puppylinux information, everybody loses. cats, dogs, cows, snakes. everybody.
Making the pond smaller does not make the fishes bigger no matter how much we may want to believe it.

PS: Tip of the hat to the Fatdog developers and (known) users for exemplary approach on the matter.

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