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Full install of 32-biit XenialPup won't boot
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petersonal

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PostPosted: Thu 21 Jun 2018, 15:47    Post subject:  Full install of 32-biit XenialPup won't boot  

Dear all!
My spec: acer aspire 5000, old and weak notebook, but i hope puppy will run nice on it.
Installed: 32-bit XenialPup 7.5, FULL version from usb (wrote with rufus 3.1).
My problem, fresh install (tried to reinstall many times with different options) wont boot up. I am seeing:
Code:
wee 0> find --set-root /grldr
wee 15> /grldr
wee 17> _ (prompt here)

I saw others with same error on forums, did not see any solution. First i thought i need to install a bootloader, so i installed, the suggested grub2dos (i not sure what the installer recommends). The disk is wiped with gparted, no other OS is present or needed.
Any ideas are welcome.
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PostPosted: Thu 21 Jun 2018, 16:56    Post subject:  

Reboot with the Xenialpup USB flash drive.

Use Gparted to reformat the hard drive partition ext 3 or 4.
Make sure it is flagged as boot.
This should delete everything and start fresh.

Run the Puppy Universal Installer.
Select the hard drive to install to.
Select a frugal install (best way to install Puppy)
A lot of Puppy features only work in a frugal install.
It is still the complete OS.

After the install completes.
Run Grub4dos Bootloader Config
Choose the hard drive as the device to install on.
Select search only this device.
All other options keep unchecked.
OK.
OK.
OK.
done.

Shutdown the computer.
Remove the Xenialpup USB stick.
Boot computer selecting to boot from the hard drive (if you changed the boot device order in the Bios)
Should boot to a boot loader menu.
Select from that menu what to do.

Grub and Grub2 are not really setup for how Puppy boots. They need manual entries.
Grub4dos Boot loader knows all about Puppy and how to boot it.

If still having problems.
You do what?
You see what?

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PostPosted: Thu 21 Jun 2018, 17:01    Post subject:  

When you run Gparted, you may want to take some of the space on the hard drive and make a swap partition.
If it only has 512MB of RAM a swap partition will help.

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PostPosted: Fri 22 Jun 2018, 16:30    Post subject:  

Thank you i used the FRUGAL install option, now it booted right, but, it seems like a live OS now. Kind of weird. Never mind if it remembers my installed apps and settings and not consuming a lot of hardware it is fine.
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PostPosted: Fri 22 Jun 2018, 18:16    Post subject:  

It basically works the same way as a Live Puppy.
When you shutdown the first time.
It will ask to make a save file or folder.
Anything new, added, setup etc.... gets put into the save.
Info in the save gets loaded at next boot up.

If it gives the option to make a save folder, choose that over a save file.

Tip:
Shutdown and make a save.
Reboot using the save.
Now add all the software you want to, so it goes into the save and it is sure to stay installed.

Frugal installs:

Can be put on any partition any format, any type storage device.

They load more of Puppy into RAM.

Easier to backup, because all changes, settings are in the save. The core Puppy files never change. Only what is in the save changes. All you have to do is copy the save to have a backup.
If Puppy really gets messed up. Just delete the save and replace it with the backup save.

You can easily load or unload SFS program packages.
This lets you use a program without actually installing it to Puppy. You will have to use this option to fully understand it.

All of Puppy is placed in a directory (folder).
You can have many Puppies on one partition.
All completely separate from the other.
All in different directories (Linux term for folder).

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PostPosted: Sat 23 Jun 2018, 08:07    Post subject:  

There are some arguments about this, but in my opinion, a Frugal install is misnamed and is really the ideal way to use Puppy. There are many options available that just aren't there with a "full" install.

The only time I ever use a full install is where there is very little memory available as is sometimes the case with very very old machines.

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