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PostPosted: Sun 05 Aug 2018, 01:43    Post subject:  No secure webmail providers?  

After reading a bunch of "secure" webmail offerings, I have reached the conclusion that no secure webmail offers all three of the required tests;

1.) Not in the USA, CANADA, UK, or EU unless server located there (thats OK).
2.) Does not use JavaScript (HTML or TEXT OK).
3.) Uses only TLS1.2-FS or TLS1.3. (NO SSL)

Pick any two you like... plenty of winners.
Not all three.

Unless you know of one...

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PostPosted: Sun 02 Sep 2018, 20:17    Post subject:  

Protonmail? (yeah, it's in the EU, but have you looked into it?)
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PostPosted: Sun 02 Sep 2018, 22:10    Post subject:  

ProtoMail is the best one I found so far. As long as its hosted there (the EU).
However, entering the protomail(dot)com address in my browser indicates 'protomail' does not own the security certificate... webair does. Therefore no connect, and no path from webair to protomail... so thats a no-go here.

I will amend my first post, as recent EEU developments indicate a better alternative to the others, the EEU will be dropped from the 'not located in' list.

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PostPosted: Sun 02 Sep 2018, 22:58    Post subject:  

Hmmm...i was referring to protonmail.com, not protomail.com Protomail is a different company.
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PostPosted: Mon 03 Sep 2018, 19:35    Post subject:  

Sorry for that. Upon the correct mail service, I find that one must use OpenPGP dot JavaScript. A javascript application (one downloads the library, and it can be used for other things). Otherwise very good service.

A general paragraph about end-to-eend encryption. Note the lack of security for the headers (meaning everyone knows Alice sent Bob a message).

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PostPosted: Tue 04 Sep 2018, 17:57    Post subject:  

Hiya 8Geee,
would Fastmail fit the bill for you? I started with an Operamail account in the 90's, and that morphed into a couple of paid Fastmail accounts through the years - am very happy indeed with the service. Although the servers were originally in Australia I believe - I don't know what the current status is. https://fastmail.blog/2017/12/05/the-fastmail-security-mindset/ could give you some background if you like? HTH

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PostPosted: Tue 04 Sep 2018, 18:24    Post subject:  

Soz - wikipedia puts me straight on the servers being in NYC and Amsterdam Sad
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PostPosted: Tue 04 Sep 2018, 18:42    Post subject:  

Hi 8Geee.

Have you tried the free webmail at vivaldi.net?

I can't remember if I needed to register from a vivaldi browser (sorry,
memory lapse), but after that I could access my vivaldi mail account from
any browser.

Never got any spam on their webmail site.

IHTH. BFN.

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PostPosted: Tue 04 Sep 2018, 20:28    Post subject:  

Hi Musher0

No need for a vivaldi browser mentioned.
Everything looks OK, including security.
"Send your public key in an e-mail" gives me hesitation.

Otherwise not bad for free... 5Gb store and 20Mb attatchments.

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