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How to read LS-120 SuperDisk?
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Keef


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PostPosted: Wed 29 Aug 2018, 13:33    Post subject:  

You might want to have a look at this thread here.
I haven't read it fully (otropogo did tend to go on a bit...) but unsurprisingly you may need a 3 series or earlier.

BTW I used http://wellminded.net63.net/ to find the thread.
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lmart

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PostPosted: Thu 30 Aug 2018, 10:34    Post subject:  

Keef wrote:
You might want to have a look at this thread here.
I haven't read it fully (otropogo did tend to go on a bit...) but unsurprisingly you may need a 3 series or earlier.

BTW I used http://wellminded.net63.net/ to find the thread.


Keef, thank you for your reply.

A starting point ... v4, then work my way backwards.
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PostPosted: Thu 30 Aug 2018, 11:03    Post subject:  

If you find something to read the disks, copy all the data off them -- and migrate away from that old hardware. Don't let your data get locked into an old media, that is no longer supported.
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lmart

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PostPosted: Sat 01 Sep 2018, 08:53    Post subject:  

RetroTechGuy wrote:
If you find something to read the disks, copy all the data off them -- and migrate away from that old hardware. Don't let your data get locked into an old media, that is no longer supported.


RetroTechGuy, yes, thanks
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PostPosted: Sun 02 Sep 2018, 12:44    Post subject:  

puppy-2.16.1 livecd will not r/w
puppy-3.01 livecd will not r/w
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PostPosted: Sun 02 Sep 2018, 16:00    Post subject:  

Not too many people ever used LS-120 drives with Puppy, but it was suppose to be supported in the early days of Puppy.
Try one of the older versions of Puppy.
Puppy 4.3.1
http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/puppy-4.3.1/
Lucid 5.2.8-005
http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/puppy-5.2.8/
Precise 5.7.1
http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/precise-5.7.1/

Try these on your oldest computer.

They may not support the newer computers hardware.
Hard to support hardware that was not present, when these versions of Puppy where made.

This could be needing to use a newer version of Puppy that will fully support that adapter you use.
Xenialpup 7.5
http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/puppy-xenial/32/

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PostPosted: Sun 02 Sep 2018, 16:04    Post subject:  

rockedge wrote:
is this drive formatted for HFS Plus or HFS+ ?

Imart, have you read this thread?

Maybe you could take the drive to someplace that has Apple computers for sale and ask them to try to read it. At least that might tell you how it's formatted.

You say that Puppy recognizes the drive but won't mount it? I assume you mean that a drive icon shows up on your desktop when you plug the drive in (With a disk in the drive. Linux reads filesystems and if there's no formatted media in the drive, there's nothing for Puppy to mount or to read.) If that's the case, what does the popup window say when you rest your cursor on the drive icon?
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PostPosted: Sun 02 Sep 2018, 16:18    Post subject:  

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is this drive formatted for HFS Plus or HFS+ ?

If this is the problem, the format of the disk.
Probably need to add the stuff to support that format.

In Puppy Xenialpup 7.5
in the Puppy Package Manager(PPM)
First do a update of the database. Configure>Update Database.
Do a search for HFS+
There will be listed, needed stuff to download and install, to provide the support needed for this format.
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PostPosted: Sun 02 Sep 2018, 16:21    Post subject:  

Flash wrote:
rockedge wrote:
is this drive formatted for HFS Plus or HFS+ ?

Imart, have you read this thread?

Maybe you could take the drive to someplace that has Apple computers for sale and ask them to try to read it. At least that might tell you how it's formatted.

You say that Puppy recognizes the drive but won't mount it? I assume you mean that a drive icon shows up on your desktop when you plug the drive in (With a disk in the drive. Linux reads filesystems and if there's no formatted media in the drive, there's nothing for Puppy to mount or to read.) If that's the case, what does the popup window say when you rest your cursor on the drive icon?
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lmart

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PostPosted: Sun 02 Sep 2018, 16:24    Post subject:  

bigpup wrote:
Not too many people ever used LS-120 drives with Puppy, but it was suppose to be supported in the early days of Puppy.
Try one of the older versions of Puppy.
Puppy 4.3.1
http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/puppy-4.3.1/
Lucid 5.2.8-005
http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/puppy-5.2.8/
Precise 5.7.1
http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/precise-5.7.1/

Try these on your oldest computer.

They may not support the newer computers hardware.
Hard to support hardware that was not present, when these versions of Puppy where made.

This could be needing to use a newer version of Puppy that will fully support that adapter you use.
Xenialpup 7.5
http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/puppy-xenial/32/
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PostPosted: Sun 02 Sep 2018, 16:25    Post subject:  

bigpup wrote:
i
Quote:
is this drive formatted for HFS Plus or HFS+ ?

If this is the problem, the format of the disk.
Probably need to add the stuff to support that format.

In Puppy Xenialpup 7.5
in the Puppy Package Manager(PPM)
First do a update of the database. Configure>Update Database.
Do a search for HFS+
There will be listed, needed stuff to download and install, to provide the support needed for this format.
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PostPosted: Sun 02 Sep 2018, 16:51    Post subject:  

lmart wrote:
rockedge wrote:
is this drive formatted for HFS Plus or HFS+ ?


rockedge, thanks ... No idea how it's formatted

In Puppy you can run Gparted and select this drive as the device to look at.
Gparted should be able to tell you what format it is.

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PostPosted: Sun 02 Sep 2018, 22:22    Post subject:  

Definitley try to run GParted and see if the drive is read and if it does how is it formatted?

assuming the drive is formatted as HFS+, open the puppy package manager
and install hfsprogs_332.25

then try to mount it if you can identify what the drive is named.
Code:
mount -t hfsplus -o force,rw /dev/xxxx /myMountPoint


this is all theoretical and I can't test it, I do not have a HFS+ drive on hand.
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lmart

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PostPosted: Mon 03 Sep 2018, 15:56    Post subject:  

Thanks All,
I make a point of replying to each and every post. However, several of my replies to posts are not showing.

Downloaded/verified checksum/created LiveCD of xenialpup-7.5-uefi
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Booted LiveCD, inserted Ls-120 USB, ran lsusb; drive recognized,disk drive blinked for a few seconds then stopped, inserted LS-120 disk into drive, disk drive kept blinking, powered down everything.

Booted LiveCD, inserted Ls-120 USB, ran lsusb; drive recognized,disk drive blinked for a few seconds then stopped, launched PPM to update database; see capture3.

What are your suggestions to move foreward?
Thanks.
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PostPosted: Mon 03 Sep 2018, 23:36    Post subject:  

Have the drive plugged in when you boot up the Live CD.
When you get to a working desktop.
Insert a LS-120 disk into drive.
Hopefully a drive icon will show on desktop for the drive. It will be identified with a name.

Start the program Gparted and select the LS-120 drive as the device to look at.
Hopefully it will show what the format of the disk is.
If it does show the disk format.
What is it?

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