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f.gruber


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PostPosted: Wed 29 Aug 2018, 16:06    Post subject:  teamviever 13 on tahrpup 6.0.5  

Hi,

how can I get teamviewer 13 to work in tahrpup?

Thank you for hints.

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Mike Walsh


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PostPosted: Wed 29 Aug 2018, 16:36    Post subject:  

Hallo, Ferdinand.

Short answer? I don't think it's going to happen.

I was the one who put together the last few TV11 and TV12 packages. Up until TV12, it consisted of the Windows package, running under a self-contained version of WINE 1.6, all wrapped up together for the Linux package.

With TV13, the TeamViewer devs have switched to Qt5. Qt5 is, putting it bluntly, enormous. It's bigger than your Puppy is. To load all that for the sake of one, relatively small package seems, frankly, ludicrous in the extreme.

I have got it packaged up to the point where it will run with just certain Qt5 components. But the GUI itself resolutely refuses to run. Without that, it's pretty useless. And the terminal gives no clues whatsoever.

It's a bit of a sore point with me ATM.....!! Evil or Very Mad


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PostPosted: Wed 29 Aug 2018, 17:05    Post subject: Try teamviewer 13 portable under Wine  

Hi f.gruber,

I haven't tried this because I wouldn't know what to do with it. But after Mike Walsh's post, I wondered if it would run under Wine. So I googled "winehq teamviewer" and was surprised to find that it now had a platinum (best) rating (previous was bronze = garbage). https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=5956

When possible, I prefer to run window-portables rather than installables: (a) portables don't write to the registry, which means if a program doesn't work it has to be uninstalled and I'm not sure that Wine is as up to the task as Windows about which I already have doubts; (b) portables are self-contained --packaged to include everything needed-- and my experience has been they are more likely to run under Wine than installables. To get rid of a no-functioning portable, just delete its folder.

You'll find links to Teamviewer 13.2.14327 portable here: https://teamviewer.en.lo4d.com/download
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PostPosted: Wed 29 Aug 2018, 18:42    Post subject:  

Hallo, Mike!

D'you know, you've solved my personal dilemna. Though it doesn't get me any closer to figuring out why my TV13 package for Puppy won't 'show its face', as it were...

I don't know why I never thought of running TeamViewer under WINE! It's how the Linux packages have run for years, after all.

I've got both versions (standard & portable) running here in Slacko 560 under version2013's WINE 1.7.51. Curious that TeamViewer are still building the thing for XP.....4½ years after EOL.

Both run perfectly, though, for some odd reason, the 'portable' version is labelled as '*Trial* (expired)'... (???) Who knows? Laughing

I still prefer to build packages for Puppy which install with a single-click, and take a second click to get 'em running. Not everybody is enamoured of WINE, are they? Some individuals I've read on here actively despise it, and refuse to have anything to do with it...

Their loss.

Cheers!


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PostPosted: Wed 29 Aug 2018, 19:18    Post subject:  

Hi Mike,

Glad it works and that I could help. I share your preferences, recognizing them as a preferences which are secondary to two objectives: actually getting something I want to function Idea and personally having to do as little work as possible. Laughing

'tother Mike

@ f.gruber,

If you decide to go that route, don't hesitate to ask how to set up wine. If you're at all concerned about the "*Trial* (expired)'... (???)" of the portable version, I'd recommend Wine-portable, especially if you use a SaveFile rather than a SaveFolder. Wine-portable will reside outside of your SaveFile.
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PostPosted: Thu 30 Aug 2018, 10:22    Post subject:  

Thank you for your posts.

At the moment I will not pursue this idea any further. It obviously does not make much sense to install that qt5 libraries under puppy linux.
May be in the future I will deal with Anydesk, with I read about recently.

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PostPosted: Thu 30 Aug 2018, 20:05    Post subject:  

Teamviewer 13 not start GUI without session manager

https://community.teamviewer.com/t5/Linux/Not-start-GUI/td-p/41631
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PostPosted: Thu 30 Aug 2018, 21:23    Post subject:  

Pro wrote:
Teamviewer 13 not start GUI without session manager

https://community.teamviewer.com/t5/Linux/Not-start-GUI/td-p/41631


Thanks for that, pro. For some stupid reason, Teamviewer won't allow me to access their forums, so I couldn't find this myself. However, the page you linked opens fine.....

This may well get me a step closer to a Puppy TV13 package.....for real. Looks like there's only a handful of Qt5 components actually needed;

Qt5core5a
Qt5Dbus
Qt5Gui
Qt5Network, &
Qt5Widgets.

Plus libxcb-xinerama, to handle the 'can't load xcb plugin' issue.....and something called libdouble-conversion.

Cheers! It'll give me summat to do tomorrow.....


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PostPosted: Fri 31 Aug 2018, 00:21    Post subject:  

i tested on my "portable" module for x32
https://cloud.mail.ru/public/3ycy/2JmDQQPkF

rename pfs to sfs and look to the module.
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PostPosted: Sat 23 Mar 2019, 08:08    Post subject:  

f.gruber wrote:
In the future I will deal with Anydesk

Looking for an alternative to Teamviewer, I found today Anydesk. It's really great! Easy installation, easy use. No problem at sight! I was quite happy with it for a while, til I found DWService Very Happy .
I don't know which is the general consensus about it but, whether DWService or AnyDesk, in my system Teamviewer is already history.
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PostPosted: Sat 23 Mar 2019, 09:24    Post subject:  

Quote:
whether DWService or AnyDesk, in my system Teamviewer is already history.


just tried out both and they work very well! Thank you guys!!
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PostPosted: Mon 01 Jul 2019, 16:57    Post subject: Teamviewer 14
Subject description: run in wine
 

Does anyone have Teamviewer portable 14 running in wine? I made some feeble unsuccessful attempts. I'm running Dpup Stretch 7.5 rc4 and downloaded the portable from portableapps.com. All this made necessary because Teamviewer has deprecated all versions older than 14 for free users. Thanks for any suggestions.

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PostPosted: Tue 02 Jul 2019, 20:46    Post subject:  

@ WIZard:-

Now then.....

You're talking about a Windows PortableApp, yes? How are you trying to run it? With the 'portables', you do NOT install them in WINE, like a 'normal' package; if anything, you run them from anywhere but the WINE 'container'. Reason being that since they're totally self-contained, they don't write to the standard Windows registry; they always have their own, built-in 'mini'-registry, and use this instead.

(EDIT:- Just tried the TeamViewer 'portable'. Crashes before it even opens....)

There is another option, though it's only really applicable if you're a user of any of the Chromium-based 'clones'. There's the TeamViewer WebApp extension, available through the Chrome Webstore at a rather hefty 45 MB.....but it does give you version 14.

Below, I have it running, via Iron 69, as a 'standalone' desktop app in DPup Stretch:-





As I said, it's one way round t' problem.....


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PostPosted: Wed 03 Jul 2019, 19:52    Post subject: teamviewer 14
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Hi Mike;
Yes, I was trying to get the Windows portable version to run in wine-1.6-i486_v3.sfs that I had running. Then setup wine-portable-3.3_v2.1.tar.gz and tried it. Tried putting the teamviewer folder both inside and outside of wine. Actually got it to open once, but could not repeat.

I'm using peebee's chromium 64, installed the web app but won't run, says Chrome Native Browser plugin is required. Checked in about:flags and it is not there, can't find it as a plugin either. Tried peebee's latest chromium 75 and got same result. Any idea how to get it to run in chromium?

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PostPosted: Wed 03 Jul 2019, 21:54    Post subject:  

Hi, Wiz.

Hm. Looks like you're right. I've just tried it in Oscar's Chromium 73 that he built for DPup Stretch. Same result. I've tried 'transplanting' the 'nacl_helper' binary and the matching 'nacl_irt_x86_32.nexe' from Iron 69 to the Chromium folder, then re-started.....still no cigar.

It definitely works in Iron, though. Now, I was going to direct you to Oscar's Yandex download page for Iron, but I see 69 has gone, replaced by 72. That's not good news, though, because they made a lot of changes between 69 and 72. NetFlix won't run in 72, nor will the Teamviewer plug-in. At least, it won't for me.....

So; here's the package I put together for 69:-

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PPFTZ_VdtlLxC1IczFPPoIep-PWP-9sK/view?usp=sharing

It's the 'all-in-one' version. This contains the necessary 'gtk-3.0' libs, and it also has its own, self-contained NSS libs, too; I borrowed the current Palemoon NSS stuff, stuck it in an extra directory inside the main one, and directed Iron to look there first. Which works nicely.

The TeamViewer webapp should work with this one. Up to you, of course.


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