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paulh177


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PostPosted: Thu 02 Jan 2020, 11:51    Post subject: Re: unable to run this pup  

Is there any progress on Bionic64 + Broadcom 43x wireless?

(I gave up and never saw charlie's answer btw)

I've installed the Broadcom driver via quickpet, but while I can now see the device in network-wizard, it won't connect (network-wizard also says the wl driver its using doesn't support WPA which might be the problem)

I've been using Bionic on another laptop & I'm very happy otherwise, but I need it running on this old Dell too.

for info, these are the Pup files I'm running off. This is a frugal install with the files in a subdir of /mnt/home/bionic64, and the fs is ext3

Code:


-rw-r--r--  1 root root   6189216 Feb 19  2019 vmlinuz
-rw-r--r--  1 root root   2619177 Feb 26  2019 initrd.gz
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 292466688 Feb 26  2019 puppy_bionicpup64_8.0.sfs
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 168349696 Mar 14  2019 devx_bionicpup64_8.0.sfs
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 143220736 Mar 14  2019 kernel_sources-4.19.23-bionicpup64.sfs
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  76730368 May 16  2019 zdrv_bionicpup64_8.0.sfs

md5s:

bfd98430dd50c16dd71c463d7d347223  vmlinuz
3717e2e97d1dacfcc0fa28c7f9b44980  initrd.gz
028a1af0d006db3ac215bbaf93be8e1b  puppy_bionicpup64_8.0.sfs
6c96db8c2cbad8e3a1dee54c9dc48014  devx_bionicpup64_8.0.sfs
cfd7260ebc3b95836ce6aee15ee90d77  kernel_sources-4.19.23-bionicpup64.sfs
dc93bb0838588bd7cd4550932c3b8d2d  zdrv_bionicpup64_8.0.sfs





This is my original query ifrom May 2019:


paulh177 wrote:
I haven't read all 61 pages of the thread, so maybe this has already cropped up, but I've got big problems with this release on my usual machine.

First off, the boot is extraordinarily slow - it takes about 6-8 minutes to get from grub to a fully loaded desktop; It "pauses" at loading kernel modules and then again trying to run X for minutes each.

The fan runs at full speed at all times, and not surprisingly as udevd seems to grab the processor(s) and hang on like grim death - see attached screenshot.

Note that this machine can run Tahr and Xenial in both 32 & 64 bit variants with no problems, and Bionic in 32 bit is fine too.

Hardware:

Dell Inspiron 1545
4GB
Intel Core2 Duo CPU T6400 @ 2.00GHz
Display: Mesa DRI Mobile Intel GM45 Express Chipset x86/MMX/SSE2
Wireless: Broadcom BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY [14e4:4315] (rev 01) ( Kernel Driver: b43-pci-bridge)
.

So, basically this is unusable for me at the moment, and I really need a late Ubu Puppy in 64bit for some stuff I'm doing at the moment
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rockedge


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PostPosted: Thu 02 Jan 2020, 12:07    Post subject:  

Quote:
driver its using doesn't support WPA which might be the problem


this is a major factor. I had to for a while revert to WEP on my router to be able to connect with some older Dell laptops...they did no WPA..and as those machines died off I could go back to WPA on the router side
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paulh177


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PostPosted: Thu 02 Jan 2020, 12:24    Post subject:  

rockedge wrote:
Quote:
driver its using doesn't support WPA which might be the problem


this is a major factor. I had to for a while revert to WEP on my router to be able to connect with some older Dell laptops...they did no WPA..and as those machines died off I could go back to WPA on the router side


Every other puppy i've run on this dell has been able to run WPA.
The issue here is not the age or make of the laptop but the that the kernel wireless driver in bionic64 isn't suitable for the wireless chipset in the machine.
As noted before, it works perfectly in bionic32.
There's no reason it shouldn't work in bionic64 too
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linuxcbon

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PostPosted: Sun 05 Jan 2020, 15:53    Post subject:  

bigpup wrote:
Is Steam now working?
I just did it and it runs for me.

Now I see why it didnt work for me : it's because I ran it from the terminal, but phil included LIBGL_DRI3_DISABLE somewhere, so it works from the menu , and not from the terminal. Smile Anyway, that should solve the problem for now.

Other stuff :
Does samba still need python2 ? http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/svn/basicnet/samba.html It says only python3 is needed. So python2 can be given up. Actually, python2 has come to end of life. Which other programs need python2 ?

2 xdg stuff missing :
When I start steam for first time, it needs xdg-user-dir
When I install steamVR , steam needs xdg-icon-resource
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paulh177


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PostPosted: Mon 06 Jan 2020, 09:18    Post subject: Re: unable to run this pup  

@666philb

Any chance you could have a look at this and give me a steer?
I really like Bionic64 and want to use it, but this kills the option stone dead for me Crying or Very sad


paulh177 wrote:
Is there any progress on Bionic64 + Broadcom 43x wireless?

I've installed the Broadcom driver via quickpet, but while I can now see the device in network-wizard, it won't connect (network-wizard also says the wl driver its using doesn't support WPA which might be the problem)

I've been using Bionic on another laptop & I'm very happy otherwise, but I need it running on this old Dell too.

for info, these are the Pup files I'm running off. This is a frugal install with the files in a subdir of /mnt/home/bionic64, and the fs is ext3

Code:


-rw-r--r--  1 root root   6189216 Feb 19  2019 vmlinuz
-rw-r--r--  1 root root   2619177 Feb 26  2019 initrd.gz
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 292466688 Feb 26  2019 puppy_bionicpup64_8.0.sfs
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 168349696 Mar 14  2019 devx_bionicpup64_8.0.sfs
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 143220736 Mar 14  2019 kernel_sources-4.19.23-bionicpup64.sfs
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  76730368 May 16  2019 zdrv_bionicpup64_8.0.sfs

md5s:

bfd98430dd50c16dd71c463d7d347223  vmlinuz
3717e2e97d1dacfcc0fa28c7f9b44980  initrd.gz
028a1af0d006db3ac215bbaf93be8e1b  puppy_bionicpup64_8.0.sfs
6c96db8c2cbad8e3a1dee54c9dc48014  devx_bionicpup64_8.0.sfs
cfd7260ebc3b95836ce6aee15ee90d77  kernel_sources-4.19.23-bionicpup64.sfs
dc93bb0838588bd7cd4550932c3b8d2d  zdrv_bionicpup64_8.0.sfs





This is my original query from May 2019:


paulh177 wrote:
I haven't read all 61 pages of the thread, so maybe this has already cropped up, but I've got big problems with this release on my usual machine.

First off, the boot is extraordinarily slow - it takes about 6-8 minutes to get from grub to a fully loaded desktop; It "pauses" at loading kernel modules and then again trying to run X for minutes each.

The fan runs at full speed at all times, and not surprisingly as udevd seems to grab the processor(s) and hang on like grim death - see attached screenshot.

Note that this machine can run Tahr and Xenial in both 32 & 64 bit variants with no problems, and Bionic in 32 bit is fine too.

Hardware:

Dell Inspiron 1545
4GB
Intel Core2 Duo CPU T6400 @ 2.00GHz
Display: Mesa DRI Mobile Intel GM45 Express Chipset x86/MMX/SSE2
Wireless: Broadcom BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY [14e4:4315] (rev 01) ( Kernel Driver: b43-pci-bridge)
.

So, basically this is unusable for me at the moment, and I really need a late Ubu Puppy in 64bit for some stuff I'm doing at the moment
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rockedge


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PostPosted: Mon 06 Jan 2020, 10:01    Post subject:  

try replacing the kernel in the stock Bionic64.
experiment with slightly older versions or some of the latest types.

using the change_kernels script will make it easy.

If anything fails just rename the original kernel and try again.

it might help in this case
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rcrsn51


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PostPosted: Mon 06 Jan 2020, 10:11    Post subject:  

Code:
dmesg | grep -i firmware

On other Puppies, did you need to install the wl driver, or did they work with b43?
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paulh177


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PostPosted: Mon 06 Jan 2020, 12:46    Post subject:  

@rockedge thanks for the suggestion


rcrsn51 wrote:

On other Puppies, did you need to install the wl driver, or did they work with b43?


Worked "out of the box" for years and years on various pups

Precise (32), Xenial (32/64) and Bionic (32) all worked perfectly on the same card without having to mess with wl or swap kernels. Just fire up the netwiz and away it would go.

It must be a very long time ago now but there was a problem with 43xx driver once upon a time, but I think we're back in the Puppy 3 or even 2 era, when dinosaurs still roamed.


Mind you a 2nd hand ath5k or 9k card on ebay is about £2, so I can solve it that way, but it seems a distinct shortcoming in Bionic64 when the 43xx is such a common device, in older machines at least.
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PostPosted: Mon 06 Jan 2020, 13:00    Post subject:  

that's what i mean...using an older kernel the firmware that goes along with it will be older and likely have the support for the b43

try the kernel from Xenial64 in Bionic64..might work
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sheldonisaac

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PostPosted: Mon 06 Jan 2020, 13:23    Post subject:
Subject description: wireless
 

paulh177 (in part) wrote:
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It must be a very long time ago now but there was a problem with 43xx driver once upon a time, but I think we're back in the Puppy 3 or even 2 era, when dinosaurs still roamed.

Mind you a 2nd hand ath5k or 9k card on ebay is about £2, so I can solve it that way, but it seems a distinct shortcoming in Bionic64 when the 43xx is such a common device, in older machines at least.

Just mentioning; years ago, I tried a Librepup (nothing proprietary
in it) which didn't work with broadcom or the Intel card I bought. It did work with the ath9k card my friend gave me. Still using that, currently with 32 bit Buster 8.0

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PostPosted: Mon 06 Jan 2020, 13:25    Post subject:  

rcrsn51 wrote:
Code:
dmesg | grep -i firmware


Did you not bother to try this command?
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paulh177


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PostPosted: Mon 06 Jan 2020, 14:58    Post subject:  

rcrsn51 wrote:

Did you not bother to try this command?


it's on my to-do list, but no, not yet; I have had other things that need doing first, if that's ok?
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PostPosted: Tue 07 Jan 2020, 09:00    Post subject:  

So, I found an hour to dick about with drivers this morning

first, o/p from dmesg:
Code:

b43 ssb0:0: Direct firmware load for b43/lp0initvals15.fw failed with error -2
b43 ssb0:0: Direct firmware load for b43-open/ucode15.fw failed with error -2
b43 ssb0:0: Direct firmware load for b43-open/ucode15.fw failed with error -2
b43-phy0 ERROR: You must go to http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#devicefirmware and download the correct firmware for this driver version. Please carefully read all instructions on this website.


Unfortunately, I can't get to that site, for some unknown reason.

I have also tried downloading & installing the bionic .debs
firmware-b43legacy-installer_019-3_all.deb
firmware-b43-installer_019-3_all.deb



but these produce exactly the same result - 20 minutes to boot up, no wireless device recognised & udevd eating the processor.
Same output in dmesg too.

for completeness, o/p from lspci -nn -d 14e4:
Code:

0c:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY [14e4:4315] (rev 01)
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PostPosted: Tue 07 Jan 2020, 09:42    Post subject:  

rockedge wrote:
that's what i mean...using an older kernel the firmware that goes along with it will be older and likely have the support for the b43

try the kernel from Xenial64 in Bionic64..might work


yep, I'm writing this in Bionic64 using the Xenial64 7.5 4.9.58 kernel & Xenial zdrv

booted immediately, sees the 43xx OK, connects OK.
Code:
root# dmesg |grep firm
b43-phy0: Loading firmware version 666.2 (2011-02-23 01:15:07)
b43-phy0: Loading firmware version 666.2 (2011-02-23 01:15:07)
b43-phy0: Loading firmware version 666.2 (2011-02-23 01:15:07)
root#


Time will tell if there are any incompatibilities.

thanks for your suggestion.
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PostPosted: Wed 08 Jan 2020, 04:41    Post subject:  

paulh177 wrote:
rockedge wrote:
that's what i mean...using an older kernel the firmware that goes along with it will be older and likely have the support for the b43

try the kernel from Xenial64 in Bionic64..might work


yep, I'm writing this in Bionic64 using the Xenial64 7.5 4.9.58 kernel & Xenial zdrv

booted immediately, sees the 43xx OK, connects OK.
Code:
root# dmesg |grep firm
b43-phy0: Loading firmware version 666.2 (2011-02-23 01:15:07)
b43-phy0: Loading firmware version 666.2 (2011-02-23 01:15:07)
b43-phy0: Loading firmware version 666.2 (2011-02-23 01:15:07)
root#


Time will tell if there are any incompatibilities.

thanks for your suggestion.


hi paulh177,

i can't check this myself at the moment as i'm on a limited internet connection. but now you've loaded xenial64s kernel look to see if there's
Code:
/lib/firmware/b43/lp0initvals15.fw


if there is, just copying that over when bionicpups kernel is loaded may fix it (or if not, copy the entire b43 folder)

reboot afterwards

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