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#301 Post by jamesbond »

jake29 wrote:The 91-autochownd issue is in a clean install - 'Downloads' folder is almost empty.
We have an updated autochown. It may fix the issue, or it may not. But worth a try.
EDIT: I just realized that I should probably try compiling wine 2.0.1 for Fatdog64-800 <blush>
Yeah you can't use wine from 710 with 800, too many of the library changes.
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#302 Post by SFR »

@Jake29: It's possible that autochown is continuously crashing for some reason and the high CPU usage comes from this loop in 91-autochownd:

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# start the daemon
# autochown -d -p $PIDFILE $CONFPATH
while true; do # anti-crash loop, from SFR, will look for something better later
	autochown -p $PIDFILE $CONFPATH
	case $? in 137|143) break ;; esac # 137=Killed (kill -9), 143=Terminated (kill)
done &
As James mentioned, autochown's been updated (version 2018.08, repo), so you can try and see if it makes a difference.
If not, some workaround would be to add sleep 1 below the 'case $?...' line to slow down the loop until autochown stabilizes and stops crashing.

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#303 Post by step »

@jake29 ... or you can try rebuilding that specific version of wine for FD-800. I reckon you've built wine using the Fatdog64 recipe before, haven't you?
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#304 Post by don570 »

I've installed a few wine packages from
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... =599126155
I convert the pet to SFS

Then I use load_SFS when I want a windows program. (mp3DirectCut)

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#305 Post by jake29 »

don570 wrote:I've installed a few wine packages from
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... =599126155
I convert the pet to SFS

Then I use load_SFS when I want a windows program. (mp3DirectCut)

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Thanks for the comment. I'm still looking into this, however the change from Freetype 2.6 to 2.9.1 in Fatdog64-800 has raised a known issue with older versions of Wine and newer versions of Freetype.

Wine 2.18 included: FreeType 2.8.1 compatibility fixes.

I have tried compiling these patched files with Wine 2.0.1, however compiling fails with the same error each time - possibly this is due to an error on my part. I believe I read there are still compatibility issues being introduced with FreeType releases since. Maybe I can use a patch from a more recent release of Wine.

I realise this is a very specific problem and do not expect the Fatdog team to try to account for it.

EDIT: I just discovered `winetricks speechsdk`- this has resolved all my issues and means I am able to use Wine 4.0.

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#306 Post by step »

jake29 wrote: EDIT: I just discovered `winetricks speechsdk`- this has resolved all my issues and means I am able to use Wine 4.0.
Thanks for persevering and giving us this tip.
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#307 Post by Revolverve »

Forget freecad sfs test i made for fatdog64...
Freecad appimage
Way better, if you can manage the openbox/lxpanel glitch...it works.

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uploads and downloads

#308 Post by dr. Dan »

Having a separate /home/spot/Uploads folder has proved very convenient. Perhaps it would be a useful addition to the final release.

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#309 Post by h2sammo3 »

cannot update libexiv2: Failed to download libexiv2: HTTP response code said error.

this has been going on for a couple of weeks.

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#310 Post by jamesbond »

dr.Dan can you elaborate how do you use "Uploads" folder?

h2sammo3 - thanks for the report; libexiv2 is apparently built with the wrong dependency record (it claims to depend on libssh which doesn't exist). We'll fix this.
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#311 Post by h2sammo3 »

i lost wifi connectivity on latest updates. the widget in the taskbar says wpa supplicant cannot give any data on the network.

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#312 Post by jamesbond »

What do you mean "update"? Did you update from gslapt, or do you update from alpha to beta release?

If you do update from gslapt, please try to run without savefile/savedir, and see if the connection works?
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#313 Post by dr. Dan »

@jamesbond: I do a fair amount of uploading of documents and audio. Having an upload folder monitored by autochown works like an out box with the download folder as an in box. On systems that don't use an online root-surrogate, it wouldn't matter, but with Fatdog it's handy.

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#314 Post by h2sammo3 »

i tried several times to update from the fatdog updater app but the updates would not finish successfully. i addressed this problem earlier (libexv something...)

so i did update from gslapt. several things updated including openbox. i am not sure what caused this. i will try to boot without savefile. currently typing this from a tinycore boot from the same usb stick.

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#315 Post by jamesbond »

dr. Dan: Thanks.

h2sammo3: fatdog-updater wasn't updated to work with 800 yet ... we'll fix that.

Anyway, why do you want to keep updating? If you do update, please update the package(s) individually, rather than doing a "mass update" and update all the packages at once.
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#316 Post by fatdog »

Fatdog64 800 RC is released. Thread here.
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#317 Post by h2sammo3 »

if i boot without savefile i can use wpa suplicant from the app in the taskbar as intended. if i boot from my savefile i cannot anymore.

does the beta release that i have currently installed merge by itself into the official 800 release? or do i have to install the 800 official release independently?

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#318 Post by jamesbond »

h2sammo3 wrote:if i boot without savefile i can use wpa suplicant from the app in the taskbar as intended. if i boot from my savefile i cannot anymore.
Ok, that means the update broke it. And this is probably the cause, because during alpha/beta we'd probably make breaking changes (unintentionally) as we continue to fix things.
does the beta release that i have currently installed merge by itself into the official 800 release? or do i have to install the 800 official release independently?
Yes, if will update if you use the proper method (=fatdog-updater and update via ISO or SFS --- but bear in mind in alpha/beta this tools is broken so you can't use it). But you cannot do it by updating using gslapt or slapt-get.

The reason why I asked about updating so often is; if you come here from either Windows/Mac world, or from mainstream Linux distros like Debian or Ubuntu or even Slackware; is that they do feature regular updates and some even support "whole distro upgrade" - you can upgrade your installation all the way to the latest version; so you may be used to the idea of "continuous update" and "always run the latest".

That is not the philosophy for Fatdog and Puppy Linux. I won't delve too much about it since this subject has been discussed many times over. Doing a blind bulk update is considered harmful.

In our case, sometimes our repo contains "test" packages with new version numbers; that if you just do a blind update it will install this test package and breaks the system (this is especially true during alpha/beta/rc stages where we test various versions of the packages to see what's best).

If you do want to update, choose the package that you want to update and do it individually. Don't do bulk update. Which then leads you to the question - how do I know which package to update? Well then, the answer is this: don't update unless you have a reason too. Things not working in current version? gslapt offers new version? Then update. You've read about security issues? gslapt as a new version? Then update. Otherwise, don't fix what ain't broken.
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#319 Post by fatdog »

wrong post deleted.
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#320 Post by h2sammo3 »

is there a way to fix this besides starting a new savefile?

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