Boot Error from Xenialpup 7.5 on flash drive

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#16 Post by Nanosecond »

ITSMERSH wrote:There's nothing installed on that usb drive except grub4dos.

Where is Xenial installed to?


Thank YOU!

To be perfectly honest! I don't know. :shock:
If I plug the Key in while just running Windows on one of my laptops > Used space according to Windows is 6.81 GB and 7.61 GB Free space. Total:14.4GB.

It might be time to Reformat the Key and do a fresh install of Xenial?!?

This was reposted into this Forum titled Xenial Pup..from Installing Xenialpup to a USB stick Tutorial Video

There was another post started on or about August/September 2018. With a lot help and patience from Mike Walsh. "Installing Xenialpup to a USB stick Tutorial Video"
I do have an ISO of Xenial in 32 and 64 Bit versions.

One of the laptops HP dv7-3085 is Windows 7 32 Bit and the other Windows rig is 7 64 Bit. Dell E6400 Latitude.

There was some confusion about which version of Xenial was to be installed onto a USB Key aka Flashbar in order to work on both laptops. Partially because of installing the newest version of Chrome browser. Tahrpup uses only one version of Chrome and cannot be updated as far as I know.

So, please carefully consider building a *fresh* new version of Xenial..
If I could be given *Clear* instructions on "How To" install Xenial from one of the ISO's (I assume 64 Bit) onto a Flashbar/Key.

Your thoughts and suggestions deeply appreciated.

Kindly, Raphael

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#17 Post by mikeslr »

Hi again nanosecond,

As ITSMERSH noticed, Xenialpup isn't on your USB-Stick. What is there is a folder named FOUND.000 and gparted showed that 2.8.3 Gbs of space had been used.

I may be wrong. It's been a long time since I've used Windows for anything. But my sometimes flaky memory seems to recall that from time to time windows would find something wrong with a drive, reformat it saving its contents in a file it named FOUND.000 so that you could recover the contents or rebuild the operating system. As you have to pay for Windows and many of the programs which run under it the FOUND.000 folder had value. Puppy Linux and the programs which run under it are free. Recovering "Lost" DataFiles is a PITA. So unless you had some datafiles you want to recover I'd start from scratch to create a new Frugal install on Xenialpup by first wiping out everything on the USB-Stick.

There are data recovery programs but I've never used them. Let us know and someone else can guide you.

Since you now have a functioning Puppy, Tahrpup, once you are ready to start from scratch creating a bootable Xenialpup USB-Stick is actually easy.

Boot into Tahrpup. Download the Xenialpup ISO again if you didn't keep a copy.
Locate the ISO and Left-Click it to mount/open it. Leave that window open.

Then plug in the "former" Xenialpup USB- Do not mount/open it. Gparted can not work with mounted drives. Open gparted. Click the Devices Menu Entry. Click Create Partition Table. Accept MSDOS. [The alternative is GPT. GPT complicates using Puppies, and you don't need 128 partitions]. Note the warning, but Click Apply.

See http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 55#1012755 as to why I create two partitions, a small Fat32 to hold the bootloader and any any files I may want to transfer to a Window system and format the rest of the drive as Linux to hold Puppy(s). Following your experience I'd add: Windows won't even see the 2nd partition and won't be able to screw it up. The worst windows could do is screw up the first partition and --as you've done it several time-- you now know how easy it is to actually reinstall grub4dos.

To the now wholly "unallocated" space, select the size for its first partition and format it as Fat32. When formatting is finished, select Flags, and check the boot box.
3. Select the remaining "unallocated" space and format it as Linux Ext4.
4. When gparted is finished, close it and mount the Second partition of your new USB-Stick. From the window to the mounted Xenialpup ISO copy the following files onto that partition (recommended into a uniquely named folder*): initrd.xx, vmlinuz and any file ending in ".sfs"
5. Unmount the second Partition. Note what letter designation your Puppy has given to the new stick, e.g. sdc. Grub4dos can not write to mounted drives. Run grub4dos, selecting the device with the designation you just noted as the location for it to be installed. Select "Search only within this device". Click OK. Grub4dos will install a bootloader onto your new USB-Stick and create a boot menu.lst including the Puppy you've placed on that Stick.

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#18 Post by mikeslr »

Hi again,

You posted while I was writing. Tahrpup can use this new version of Iron: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 36#1009536

Google creates a browser named Chromium which it uses to test new features. It then incorporates what works into its new version of Google-Chome. The people who publish Iron take the Chromium build, strip it of some/all of Google-Chromes "call home to Google whenever the user does anything" features. In short, Iron is a cleaner version of Google-Chrome.

See the Iron thread in general for advice. There is both an SFS and a pet. I prefer the SFS. To download either from Yandex, first click the one you want. Only then will a new Menu will appear at the top of the screen. From it click Download.

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#19 Post by Nanosecond »

mikeslr wrote:Hi again,

You posted while I was writing. Tahrpup can use this new version of Iron: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 36#1009536

Google creates a browser named Chromium which it uses to test new features. It then incorporates what works into its new version of Google-Chome. The people who publish Iron take the Chromium build, strip it of some/all of Google-Chromes "call home to Google whenever the user does anything" features. In short, Iron is a cleaner version of Google-Chrome.

See the Iron thread in general for advice. There is both an SFS and a pet. I prefer the SFS. To download either from Yandex, first click the one you want. Only then will a new Menu will appear at the top of the screen. From it click Download.
Thank You!
note attachments plz. We've been beating a dead horse so the saying goes.

As clear as Mike Walsh was or is with all of his instructions.. there always came up some window or option that was not mentioned..more often than not I would allow that *default* choice and tick OK.
So, if we are going to move forward with a fresh Xenial install >USB Key. I would ask that the steps be laid out as clearly and simply as possible. I have slowly become more aware of how Linux/Puppy works, but there is still much of what I do not understand..it is a different language than Windows from where I sit.
I assume to clear out the USB Key I insert it and select Format>Eject. It is then ready to proceed with a new installation. I've decided to use CCleaner>Tools>Wipe. Does this require more than one Wipe?
I have both ISO on CD's of Xenial in 32Bit/64Bit.
In line with keeping things on a "new student" level it might be best to avoid Iron Chromium and stick with the Google_Chrome-70.0.3538.67-amd64.pet
https://drive.google.com/file/d/144VYJC ... -hLOR/view. I try to always be in the learning mode. At this time I would be very pleased and blessed to have a new Xenial USB Key that is healthiest.
Finally, what would cause Xenialpup to load quickly and the Shut down very slowly..like several minutes. Tahrpup doesn't act to that extreme..maybe on rare occasions.
Phew!
Sincerely, Raphael
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#20 Post by mikeslr »

1. Now that you have a working Puppy, Tahrpup, don't use Windows for anything having to do with Puppy. Using Windows only complicates things and was only necessary before you created the Tahrpup USB-Stick. Use Gparted under Tahrpup to reformat your USB-Stick per the instructions previously given.

2. "I have both ISO on CD's of Xenial in 32Bit/64Bit.
In line with keeping things on a "new student" level it might be best to avoid Iron Chromium and stick with the Google_Chrome-70.0.3538.67-amd64.pet
https://drive.google.com/file/d/144VYJC ... -hLOR/view.

I didn't realize you had both the 32 and 64 bit Xenialpup ISO. Note the designation -amd64 above indicating that it is a 64-bit application. You can use it with your 64-bit Xenialpup. You can NOT use it with either a 32-bit Tahrpup or Xenialpup.

I don't recall anyone recently publishing a 32-bit Google-Chrome so I suggested the 32-bit Iron. There are a couple other, recent, 32-bit Chrome-clones (vivaldi, slimjet) you'll find on the Additional Software Forum: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/index.php?f=53. But, as far as I know, the last actual Google-Chrome that could be used with 32-bit Puppies was OscarTalks version 48 you can find here: http://smokey01.com/OscarTalks/[url]htt ... scarTalks/[/url]. It is now 2 years old, and in the meantime Google-Chrome has made 42 major revisions. It is still useful. But many websites won't permit access to it.

To All reading this, Have a Happy New Year.

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