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How do I make a bootable USB stick of XenialPup 32?
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bigpup


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PostPosted: Sat 06 Apr 2019, 15:14    Post subject:  

666philib was having problems getting an updated version of Xenialpup 7.5 posted at ibilio.
That was suppose to be fixed as of April 06.

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May I ask if you have tried the ISO that is currently in the library? I am sure that earlier versions have worked, but has anybody tried the current one?

I just downloaded the iso of Xenialpup 7.5 from http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/puppy-xenial/32/.

I installed it on a USB flash drive as a frugal install.
Installed Grub4dos Boot loader on the USB drive to boot it.

It boots to the Grub4dos boot menu.
Select Xenialpup 7.5 entry.
Boots to working desktop with no issues.

I am posting from it now.

So this way of installing and booting seems to be working.

If you are doing a Live install to the USB drive. Try the frugal install way.

I usually buy 16GB flash drives.
I always do frugal installs and use Grub4dos to boot them.
You can put a lot of Puppy versions on a 16GB drive.
Each one with a boot menu entry in Grub4dos.

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PostPosted: Sat 06 Apr 2019, 15:21    Post subject:  

I did the install to flash drive using the Puppy Installer, just taking all the defaults (specifically, didn't mess with the MBR). So that way works too.
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PostPosted: Sat 06 Apr 2019, 15:38    Post subject:  

Quote:
"It looks like this is not a bootable image.
The image does not appear to contain a partition table, and might not be recognised or bootable by your device."

That error message is the kind you get if you try to boot just using the iso.

That is not a live or frugal install.

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PostPosted: Sat 06 Apr 2019, 15:55    Post subject:  

bigpup (in part) wrote:
666philib was having problems getting an updated version of Xenialpup 7.5 posted at ibiblio.
That was suppose to be fixed as of April 06.

I just downloaded the iso of Xenialpup 7.5 from http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/puppy-xenial/32/.

I installed it on a USB flash drive as a frugal install.
Installed Grub4dos Boot loader on the USB drive to boot it.

It boots to the Grub4dos boot menu.
Select Xenialpup 7.5 entry.
Boots to working desktop with no issues.

I am posting from it now.

Thanks, bigpup.
I did somewhat the same. Downloaded that iso, put files from it in a directory on a 4GB USB flash drive from Micro Center, did the Grub4dos config.

Rebooted from the USB drive, chose this Xenialpup 7.5.
Code:

ls -l /mnt/sdc1
total 276
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root   4096 Apr  6 15:14 xenial75
drwx------ 2 root root  16384 Apr  6 15:02 lost+found
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   1724 Apr  6 03:45 menu.lst
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  32256 Apr  6 03:44 sdc_mbr.bak
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 220049 Apr  6 03:44 grldr
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   2871 Apr  6 03:44 menu-advanced.lst

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PostPosted: Sat 06 Apr 2019, 16:17    Post subject:  

olddog,

That is 5 against 1!

We win! Laughing Laughing Laughing

We will try to help, but really unsure why you are having problems?

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PostPosted: Sat 06 Apr 2019, 17:24    Post subject:  

Well, first of all, thank you everybody who tried to use this ISO. I am glad in a way to find that it works, but it doesn't help with my problem - other than ruling out one possibility.

Let me continue by correcting a couple of misapprehensions.

The error message from Etcher came as I was trying to create a bootable USB stick - not when I was trying to install Puppy. I hadn't got that far.

The problem I am having is that I can't boot Xenial 32 from the USB stick.

I can boot Xenial 64, Tahr Pup, Slacko, etc from the same stick onto the same computer using the same methods.

But not Xenial 32.

I have tried so often that I am heartily sick of it.

And like you, I have no idea why I have this problem.

Anyway, thanks again, but unless somebody can think of a new approach I am going no further. Slacko is running, and whilst I prefer Xenial, I can do what I want to do with Slacko.

But if anybody in the UK wants to have a look at my USB stick, I am happy to post it to them.

And thanks again.

bigpup wrote:
olddog,

That is 5 against 1!

We win! Laughing Laughing Laughing

We will try to help, but really unsure why you are having problems?

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PostPosted: Sun 07 Apr 2019, 01:10    Post subject:  

Hello olddog.

There's a typo, or a silly spelling error somewhere in your menu.lst ?

"Typos" being "typographic" errors, such as two spaces or two hyphens
when there should be one, and vice-versa; semi-colon instead of colon;
and the like.

Those can be the most treacherous errors, you know: because YOU wrote
that word or that punctuation that way, your mind thinks that THAT
SPELLING is NOT an error, and therefore it is not flagging it as an error.

Run a spell-checker on it, maybe?

That's not a famous psycho-analytic theory or anything like that: it's plain
old psychology of perception, plus the age-old human pride instinct.
Happens to this dummy (aka me) all the time. Embarassed

IHTH.

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PostPosted: Sun 07 Apr 2019, 05:33    Post subject:  

I think in this case what I would do is shut down and reset BIOS to optimum defaults.
Format the usb stick with Windows XP or whatever version.
Then pick up a portable version of LILI
https://www.linuxliveusb.com/en/download

Then let it find the Xenial ISO in question, see if it
says this ISO is okay to proceed, then let it do its business to usb stick.
Don't be connected to internet whilst doing this.

Shut down and see if Xenial boots.

And I meant a FULL format in Win.

Once I even had to use Killdisk (http://www.killdisk.com/killdisk-freeware.htm)
when I had bjorked the stick with so much puppy cr*p, that this brought it back from the dead.
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PostPosted: Sun 07 Apr 2019, 14:08    Post subject:  

Quote:
"LinuxLive USB Creator is a completely free and open-source
software for Windows only."
Very funny.
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PostPosted: Sun 07 Apr 2019, 17:41    Post subject:  

Many ways to skin a cat Musher, at the time Gparted, was not doing fat very well I think. The one file left after that process (deleted all fluff from usb stick)
was Idlinux.sys. That stick is still going today lol.
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olddog

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PostPosted: Sun 07 Apr 2019, 19:20    Post subject:  

It's a plausible theory, but two methods I used either didn't require typing (Etcher) or told me they had completed correctly (DD).



musher0 wrote:
Hello olddog.

There's a typo, or a silly spelling error somewhere in your menu.lst ?

"Typos" being "typographic" errors, such as two spaces or two hyphens
when there should be one, and vice-versa; semi-colon instead of colon;
and the like.

Those can be the most treacherous errors, you know: because YOU wrote
that word or that punctuation that way, your mind thinks that THAT
SPELLING is NOT an error, and therefore it is not flagging it as an error.

Run a spell-checker on it, maybe?

That's not a famous psycho-analytic theory or anything like that: it's plain
old psychology of perception, plus the age-old human pride instinct.
Happens to this dummy (aka me) all the time. Embarassed

IHTH.

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olddog

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PostPosted: Sun 07 Apr 2019, 19:22    Post subject:  

I will give that a go in a few days. Right now I need to do all the things I didn't do while making countless efforts to install Xenial.

Cheers

Smithy wrote:
I think in this case what I would do is shut down and reset BIOS to optimum defaults.
Format the usb stick with Windows XP or whatever version.
Then pick up a portable version of LILI
https://www.linuxliveusb.com/en/download

Then let it find the Xenial ISO in question, see if it
says this ISO is okay to proceed, then let it do its business to usb stick.
Don't be connected to internet whilst doing this.

Shut down and see if Xenial boots.

And I meant a FULL format in Win.

Once I even had to use Killdisk (http://www.killdisk.com/killdisk-freeware.htm)
when I had bjorked the stick with so much puppy cr*p, that this brought it back from the dead.

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