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Huawei announced the release of its own operating system
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tallboy


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PostPosted: Fri 25 Oct 2019, 20:43    Post subject:  

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someone needed some sleep maybe?

I think we both need a few minutes on the pillow!
Actually, none of us is right! Embarassed
The 40MP main camera comes with large 1/1.7" sensor, F1.8 aperture and 27mm equivalent focal length.
The Mate 20 Pro's secondary camera is an 8MP telephoto. The ~80mm equivalent fixed lens is the one used for zoom, 80mm f/2.4 lens, equivalent to 3x optical zoom. (also seen referred to as 82mm, and 27x3=81mm)
The new super-wide-angle offers a 16mm equivalent focal length and uses a 20MP sensor with F2.2 aperture lens. A minimum focus distance of 2.5cm allows for better macro performance.
The phone originally came with 3x optical and 10x digital zoom, now it has 3x optical, 5x hybrid and 30x digital zoom.
Which means that the 30x zoom equivalent in 35mm focal length, is about 810 mm. Still very impressive for a handheld lens. Very Happy
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I'm awaiting to see what happens after some realworld users report back.
Yes, me too.
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PostPosted: Fri 25 Oct 2019, 22:16    Post subject:
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But that doesn't apply to system software....

Because microsoft will sue and does sue if store violates copyright law
in china!!!

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PostPosted: Fri 01 Nov 2019, 11:42    Post subject:
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... decided to use Huawei technology and it's likely that Canada will too.



Canada agricultral people know the reason better than anyone
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hatemonday wrote:
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... decided to use Huawei technology and it's likely that Canada will too.



Canada agricultral people know the reason better than anyone


Not suprising if there is a connection,

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PostPosted: Sat 02 Nov 2019, 12:02    Post subject: pork deal  

On the subject of pork...
Canadian government is NOT promoting its pork industry,
whereas American goverment is....

https://thediplomat.com/2019/10/why-pork-pushed-china-to-a-deal/
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PostPosted: Mon 11 Nov 2019, 05:23    Post subject:
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... decided to use Huawei technology and it's likely that Canada will too




Sooner or later Australia will be using... then NewZealand will be using ... and then the rest of the world will be using ....
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PostPosted: Fri 15 Nov 2019, 11:16    Post subject:
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On one side, Huawei "seems" to do virtually everything it can to carry out political tasks .


On the other hand, "seems" to do virtually everything it can to squeeze and threaten other countries to use Huawei's technology /product.


Are they actually two sides of the same single coin ? Anyone knows ?


https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/business/taiwan-halts-sales-of-three-huawei-phones-in-wording-row-12093468



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PostPosted: Fri 15 Nov 2019, 14:52    Post subject:  

Why is it so hard for people to understand that the Chinese Government is firmly in control of what goes on in companies in China?
The Chinese Government is always in the background! Shocked

Now with the ability to attach a very small spying chip to the circuitry of any electronic device.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=117162
I think the US is doing the correct thing by blocking the use of Huawei products.
Especially for US Government electronics!!

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PostPosted: Fri 15 Nov 2019, 16:07    Post subject:
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hatemonday wrote:
On one side, Huawei "seems" to do virtually everything it can to carry out political tasks of the Chinese Government.


On the other hand, the Chinese Government "seems" to do virtually everything it can to squeeze and threaten other countries to use Huawei's technology /product.


Are they actually two sides of the same single coin ? Anyone knows ?


I think there is a 98.86% chance that is is wholly controlled by the china govt. since there is no public information available for Huawei Investment & Holding Company Trade Union Committee, which owns 98.86% of the company.

There is no public information available for Huawei Investment & Holding Company Trade Union Committee, which owns 98.86% of the company.
That is the main reason it is suspected to be owned by the government. The other 1% is owned by the CEO, Ren Zhengfei.
Ren Zhengfei has spent most of his career in the PLA (Peoples Liberation Army) as a civilian with no military rank.

Huawei claims the company is 100% employee owned. That is not true, there are only two owners of the company.

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Almost nothing is known of Huawei Holding TUC, including what its corporate registration documents and by-laws say, "who makes decisions in its name, or whether in fact it is a union, an intra-union organ (a trade union committee being different from a trade union), or something else entirely going by a misleading name. It is cloaked in opacity," according to the authors.

This raises no small amount of confusion in that the name "Huawei" is used interchangeably by both those both inside and outside of the various entities. That this kind of ambiguity further serves to perpetuate the completely fictitious façade that the corporation is employee-owned and thus not controlled by the Chinese Communist Party or its military arm, the PLA. On the contrary, examining numerous PRC media reports and corporate documents leads the authors to the conclusion:

https://freebeacon.com/national-security/report-explores-who-owns-huawei/
It is a long article that does not claim to have all the answers but describes the convoluted system of ownership and lack of public information or transparency.

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Huawei Technologies Co. Ltd., the global giant with 180,000 employees, is formally owned by a holding company which in turn is owned by just two shareholders: company founder Ren Zhengfei, with nearly 1.14 per cent, while the remainder belongs to an entity called the “Union of Huawei Investment & Holding Co. Ltd.”

That union, the researchers say, appears to be a trade-union committee. And such entities in China are part of a system ultimately controlled by the Communist Party.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/article-new-research-casts-doubts-on-huaweis-claims-of-being-employee-owned/



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PostPosted: Fri 15 Nov 2019, 20:16    Post subject:  

In the rest of the world, outside USA, trade unions normally exist in companies, as they also do in China. The trade union that own most of Huawei, are the Huawei employees.
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And such entities in China are part of a system ultimately controlled by the Communist Party.
Yeah, yeah, the americans never understood trade unions, such statements are just old fashioned bs. Jeez, wake up, the current population of China is 1,435,874,669 as I write this, just how many commies do you think there are? Live counter here:
https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/china-population/

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PostPosted: Sat 16 Nov 2019, 06:31    Post subject: Huawei Security Risk to Infrastructure of UK  

Just to add a reference about Huawei and the risk of using their equipment for 5 G, etc.
Whilst in theory the Chinese Government could insist on the insertion of items, Huawei deny they have ever been ask and there has been no actual evidence that it has been done. Also, it has to be remembered that other countries could also request their manufacturers based in their countries to do the same but that may become public knowledge more easily than in China.
Huawei have and continue to invest huge sums into developing technology which os why they are leaders in the field.
Recognising that it could be a security risk the UK have an agreement with Huawei that allows them to look at the systems. The latest report highlights some concerns about the procedures that Huawei use for development of their software. See: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/huawei-cyber-security-evaluation-centre-oversight-board-annual-report-2019.
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PostPosted: Sat 16 Nov 2019, 13:18    Post subject:  

Most people forget that Huawei also built a large number of the 3G/4G base stations around the world, and I have never seen issues related to that. I think people have had more issues with Google, Facebook, Twitter and other social media misusing information, than they have had with chinese authorities.
One main problem now is that US officials have said that they will not share information over a 5G net built by Huawei. Most bosses of competing companies to Huawei, are friends of Trump...

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PostPosted: Sat 16 Nov 2019, 13:42    Post subject:  

Yep. It's called plutocracy!
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PostPosted: Sat 16 Nov 2019, 13:52    Post subject:  

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PostPosted: Wed 20 Nov 2019, 19:25    Post subject:  

Here is a good update of the current situation regarding operating system

https://sputniknews.com/business/201911141077304678-huawei-said-to-be-launching-its-android-replacement-software-soon---but-theres-one-issue/
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Huawei has been positioning Harmony as an all-in-one platform that will enable software developers to build one app that will run on all of Huawei’s devices. Kevin Ho reportedly said that at the moment the Chinese giant has no plans to release future gadgets running on Harmony. The operating system is only featured on Huawei’s televisions – Vision, Honor Vision, and Honor Vision Pro.
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