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Huawei announced the release of its own operating system
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hatemonday

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PostPosted: Fri 22 Nov 2019, 20:51    Post subject:
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the americans never understood trade unions, such statements are just old fashioned bs. Jeez, wake up, the current population of China is 1,435,874,669 as I write this ...




No matter how many sacked, there is still plenty supply from such a huge population. Sacking anyone won't hurt its spying capability.
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musher0

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PostPosted: Fri 22 Nov 2019, 21:35    Post subject:
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hatemonday wrote:
On one side, Huawei "seems" to do virtually everything it can to carry out political tasks .

On the other hand, [China] "seems" to do virtually everything it can to squeeze and threaten other countries to use Huawei's technology /product.

Are they actually two sides of the same single coin ? Anyone knows ?

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/business/taiwan-halts-sales-of-three-huawei-phones-in-wording-row-12093468

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And the US is a saint, I suppose?
Oh, please come down to earth, oh Angel hatemonday!!! Smile

A couple of examples, if I may:
About threats:
-- Within the new NAFTA, Canada will have to buy more US milk products, whether
we like it or not, or else the US will bring our steel and aluminum industries to their
knees.
-- The US has threatened to impose huge tariffs on French wine, if France goes
ahead with its GAFA Internet tax.

About spying:
Prayer: "Dear God, please help some Americans stop playing the offended virgin!" Rolling Eyes
Like the US does NOT have the CIA, the NSA and a couple of other spying agencies.

I'm not saying the Chinese may not be doing it through Huawei, but the US is doing it
too to other countries through God knows what channels.

FYI, all countries have spying agencies.

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souleau


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PostPosted: Sat 23 Nov 2019, 06:55    Post subject:  

Maybe the whole viewpoint of 'governments using national companies for nefarious purposes' is outdated.

Perhaps we're already living in our own dystopian Bladerunner/Alien universe where large, global conglomerates are using puppet governments for their own nefarious purposes instead.

Maybe the concepts of borders and nationality have already been replaced by the concepts of markets and conditions.
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PostPosted: Sat 23 Nov 2019, 07:38    Post subject:  

I hate to lighten the discussion, but I read "using puppet governments ..." as "using puppy governments for their own nefarious purposes" and wondered, for a moment, if it was a discussion about mavrothal...! Whew, I was so relieved when I realized it was "puppet" and not "puppy"...

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musher0

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PostPosted: Sat 23 Nov 2019, 10:12    Post subject:  

Come to think of it, IMO, the Chinese gov't will NOT be using the Huawei 5G
technology for spying. Think about it: it would be sooo obvious: first place counter-
espionage will look.

Besides, specs and description of components of those phones have to be public,
worldwide, for repair and maintenance purposes. If there was some kind of hardware
mole in the phone or the relay system, it would soon be discovered.

Chinese spies will no doubt use it like any other user would, but as a general spying
tool for the Chinese gov't, I have to say no.

About the argument that Huawei was founded by a former officer of the Chinese Army,
turn the argument around: how many former officers of the American or Canadian, etc.,
army, work for tech companies in their respective countries? You're still rather young
when you retire from the Forces, and you want to start a second career. See? In itself,
that argument does not mean anything.

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PostPosted: Sat 30 Nov 2019, 09:09    Post subject:
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Why is it so hard for people to understand that the Chinese Government is firmly in control of what goes on in companies in China?

The Chinese Government is always in the background!



Absolutely agree !!!

It seems that every Chinese company is performing some sorts of political tasks in one way or another secretly.
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PostPosted: Wed 11 Dec 2019, 09:25    Post subject:
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... seems to do virtually everything it can to squeeze and threaten other countries to use Huawei's technology /product.



another country being squeezed and threatened ...

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PostPosted: Thu 19 Dec 2019, 15:27    Post subject: China government will get rid of American software  

China government will get rid of American software
Huawei already announced that it doesn't use American-made chips anymore

https://www.newser.com/story/284111/china-us-enter-tech-cold-war.html


Charbax thinks that this will boost arm-based linux laptops
https://twitter.com/Charbax/status/1204367242655338497
Pinebook Pro people must be excited.

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PostPosted: Fri 20 Dec 2019, 07:00    Post subject:  

don570 wrote:
Huawei already announced that it doesn't use American-made chips anymore

So now we just wait for the american computer industry to announce that they don't use chinese-made chips anymore.

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PostPosted: Sat 21 Dec 2019, 13:57    Post subject:  

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So now we just wait for the american computer industry to announce that they don't use chinese-made chips anymore.


That will never happen. China now totally controls the electronic components
industry except for high-end processors which are jealously guarded by the Americans.
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PostPosted: Thu 26 Dec 2019, 00:21    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Thu 26 Dec 2019, 02:38    Post subject:  

Huawei is one of the main suppliers of the technology used to monitor and repress the population in Xinjiang. You know, ethnic cleansing, re-education camps and prison due to ethnic intolerance.
Huawei supports this voluntarily, works hand-in-hand with the chinese government while using Xinjiang as a testing ground to test the surveillance equipment that they do not make.
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More than a dozen British parliamentarians have called on the country’s foreign secretary to exclude Huawei Technologies
from building Britain’s 5G network over the company’s alleged links to the troubled Chinese region of Xinjiang

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3043450/huaweis-5g-ambitions-under-pressure-britain-over-xinjiang

This report includes Huawei in the last 1/5 of the page for that info concerning Xinjiang
https://www.aspi.org.au/report/mapping-more-chinas-tech-giants

Here is some more documenting what china is doing in Xinjiang, this article does not include anything about Huawei just the abuses in Xinjiang.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/11/16/world/asia/china-xinjiang-documents.html


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PostPosted: Sat 28 Dec 2019, 14:51    Post subject:  

Note to Perdido - Huawei factories are state of art and well managed.
Don't believe everything you read in mainstream media.
Here's a good article to explain ...
https://thegrayzone.com/2019/12/21/china-detaining-millions-uyghurs-problems-claims-us-ngo-researcher/
https://thegrayzone.com/2018/08/23/un-did-not-report-china-internment-camps-uighur-muslims/
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PostPosted: Sun 29 Dec 2019, 01:38    Post subject:  

For anyone that does not think there could be a spy chip or spy software in these Huawei devices Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Mon 06 Jan 2020, 16:52    Post subject:  

Micron Technology which is an American owned memory company says it has licences
to sell to Huawei

https://en.chinaflashmarket.com/news/view?id=13267

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In June, Micron said it had determined that some of its products could be legally shipped to Huawei, while others remained barred. It did not, however, disclose if it had received a license when US officials began granting them in November.

The chipmaker said on Wednesday it had received all requested licenses that enable it to provide support for certain products and qualify new products for Huawei’s mobile and server businesses.

The licenses are not expected to have a material impact on the company’s revenue in the next couple of quarters, Micron said.

Sumit Sadana, Micron’s chief business officer, told Reuters in an interview that it will take time for Micron to work with Huawei to make sure its chips work in Huawei’s newest phones.

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