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Huawei announced the release of its own operating system
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hatemonday
Joined: 10 Oct 2019 Posts: 21 |
No matter how many sacked, there is still plenty supply from such a huge population. Sacking anyone won't hurt its spying capability.
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musher0
Joined: 04 Jan 2009 Posts: 14724 Location: Gatineau (Qc), Canada |
Oh, please come down to earth, oh Angel hatemonday!!! 
A couple of examples, if I may: About threats: -- Within the new NAFTA, Canada will have to buy more US milk products, whether we like it or not, or else the US will bring our steel and aluminum industries to their knees. -- The US has threatened to impose huge tariffs on French wine, if France goes ahead with its GAFA Internet tax. About spying: Prayer: "Dear God, please help some Americans stop playing the offended virgin!" 
Like the US does NOT have the CIA, the NSA and a couple of other spying agencies. I'm not saying the Chinese may not be doing it through Huawei, but the US is doing it too to other countries through God knows what channels. FYI, all countries have spying agencies. BFN _________________ musher0 ~~~~~~~~~~ Je suis né pour aimer et non pas pour haïr. (Sophocle) / I was born to love and not to hate. (Sophocles) |
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souleau
 Joined: 23 Oct 2016 Posts: 141 |
Maybe the whole viewpoint of 'governments using national companies for nefarious purposes' is outdated. Perhaps we're already living in our own dystopian Bladerunner/Alien universe where large, global conglomerates are using puppet governments for their own nefarious purposes instead. Maybe the concepts of borders and nationality have already been replaced by the concepts of markets and conditions. |
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wiak
Joined: 11 Dec 2007 Posts: 1862 Location: not Bulgaria |
I hate to lighten the discussion, but I read "using puppet governments ..." as "using puppy governments for their own nefarious purposes" and wondered, for a moment, if it was a discussion about mavrothal...! Whew, I was so relieved when I realized it was "puppet" and not "puppy"... wiak _________________ New Puppy/Dog forum: https://puppylinux.rockedge.org Tiny Linux Blog: https://www.tinylinux.info/ Check Firmware: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=1022797 |
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musher0
Joined: 04 Jan 2009 Posts: 14724 Location: Gatineau (Qc), Canada |
Come to think of it, IMO, the Chinese gov't will NOT be using the Huawei 5G technology for spying. Think about it: it would be sooo obvious: first place counter- espionage will look. Besides, specs and description of components of those phones have to be public, worldwide, for repair and maintenance purposes. If there was some kind of hardware mole in the phone or the relay system, it would soon be discovered. Chinese spies will no doubt use it like any other user would, but as a general spying tool for the Chinese gov't, I have to say no. About the argument that Huawei was founded by a former officer of the Chinese Army, turn the argument around: how many former officers of the American or Canadian, etc., army, work for tech companies in their respective countries? You're still rather young when you retire from the Forces, and you want to start a second career. See? In itself, that argument does not mean anything. _________________ musher0 ~~~~~~~~~~ Je suis né pour aimer et non pas pour haïr. (Sophocle) / I was born to love and not to hate. (Sophocles) |
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hatemonday
Joined: 10 Oct 2019 Posts: 21 |
Absolutely agree !!! It seems that every Chinese company is performing some sorts of political tasks in one way or another secretly.
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hatemonday
Joined: 10 Oct 2019 Posts: 21 |
another country being squeezed and threatened ... .
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don570
 Joined: 10 Mar 2010 Posts: 5456 Location: Ontario |
China government will get rid of American software Huawei already announced that it doesn't use American-made chips anymore https://www.newser.com/story/284111/china-us-enter-tech-cold-war.html Charbax thinks that this will boost arm-based linux laptops https://twitter.com/Charbax/status/1204367242655338497 Pinebook Pro people must be excited. __________________________________________ |
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tallboy
 Joined: 21 Sep 2010 Posts: 1599 Location: Drøbak, Norway |
So now we just wait for the american computer industry to announce that they don't use chinese-made chips anymore. 
_________________ True freedom is a live Puppy on a multisession CD/DVD. |
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don570
Joined: 10 Mar 2010 Posts: 5456 Location: Ontario |
That will never happen. China now totally controls the electronic components industry except for high-end processors which are jealously guarded by the Americans. ______________ |
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hatemonday
Joined: 10 Oct 2019 Posts: 21 |
a company larger than any law
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perdido
 Joined: 09 Dec 2013 Posts: 1500 Location: ¿Altair IV , Just north of Eeyore Junction.? |
Huawei is one of the main suppliers of the technology used to monitor and repress the population in Xinjiang. You know, ethnic cleansing, re-education camps and prison due to ethnic intolerance. Huawei supports this voluntarily, works hand-in-hand with the chinese government while using Xinjiang as a testing ground to test the surveillance equipment that they do not make.
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3043450/huaweis-5g-ambitions-under-pressure-britain-over-xinjiang This report includes Huawei in the last 1/5 of the page for that info concerning Xinjiang https://www.aspi.org.au/report/mapping-more-chinas-tech-giants Here is some more documenting what china is doing in Xinjiang, this article does not include anything about Huawei just the abuses in Xinjiang. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/11/16/world/asia/china-xinjiang-documents.html . |
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don570
Joined: 10 Mar 2010 Posts: 5456 Location: Ontario |
Note to Perdido - Huawei factories are state of art and well managed. Don't believe everything you read in mainstream media. Here's a good article to explain ... https://thegrayzone.com/2019/12/21/china-detaining-millions-uyghurs-problems-claims-us-ngo-researcher/ https://thegrayzone.com/2018/08/23/un-did-not-report-china-internment-camps-uighur-muslims/ __________________________________________________ |
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bigpup
 Joined: 11 Oct 2009 Posts: 13193 Location: S.C. USA |
For anyone that does not think there could be a spy chip or spy software in these Huawei devices
_________________ The things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem. When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected 
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don570
Joined: 10 Mar 2010 Posts: 5456 Location: Ontario |
Micron Technology which is an American owned memory company says it has licences to sell to Huawei https://en.chinaflashmarket.com/news/view?id=13267
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