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666philb


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PostPosted: Sat 13 Jul 2019, 17:33    Post subject:  Review of Bionicpup by an openSUSE User  

Review from an openSUSE User
https://cubiclenate.com/2019/06/24/puppy-linux-review-from-an-opensuse-user/

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PostPosted: Sat 13 Jul 2019, 18:51    Post subject:  

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When you log in, the sound effect used is a bark. Not a puppy bark but an adult dog bark. I like the bark but wouldn’t a puppy barking be more appropriate? You know, something yippy?

Never really been a fan of 2barks myself. IIRC at one time it even turned into a burp.

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PostPosted: Sat 13 Jul 2019, 19:04    Post subject:  

This is really showing the need for Grub4dos Config to get some updating to provide a boot loader that works with UEFI bios computers.

This one works for me with my UEFI bios computers.
This installer provides one.
Frugalpup
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=114340
It uses grub2-efi for uefi booting and grub4dos for mbr/legacy booting.

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PostPosted: Sat 13 Jul 2019, 22:17    Post subject:  

Review of which Pup? There are 5,000, according to our archivist ally...
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PostPosted: Sat 13 Jul 2019, 22:44    Post subject:  

@musher0
Review of Puppy 8 BionicPup Cool

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I highly recommend giving Puppy a walk around the block. It’s a great experience and maybe even a right of Linux-passage


I thought a great and useful few days with Puppy review.
It has revived ye olde computer And another computer is being planned for Puppification and maybe we will see SusiPup ... Wink

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PostPosted: Sun 14 Jul 2019, 02:34    Post subject:  

musher0 wrote:
Review of which Pup? There are 5,000, according to our archivist ally...

It is a review by a OpenSUSE guy. Rolling Eyes
He is controlled by the dark side, so he lacks a little common sense. Laughing
He at least says it is Bionicpup.

Looking at the desktop images, it looks like Bionicpup64 8.0

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PostPosted: Sun 14 Jul 2019, 02:55    Post subject:  

I blew up one of the screenshots it was the 64bit version of bionic.
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PostPosted: Sun 14 Jul 2019, 04:08    Post subject:  

> It is a review by a OpenSUSE guy. Rolling Eyes
> He is controlled by the dark side, so he lacks a little common sense. Laughing

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OpenSUSE is not for me either. I tried it because of its popularity in Europe but just found it slow and ponderous. No fun.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenSUSE

Should we be kind to the big dogs?
I feel it was a useful review/evaluation of a few days installing and using
Maybe after a year of using Puppy it might change ... who knows ...

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PostPosted: Sun 14 Jul 2019, 11:24    Post subject: My comment to the Post was approved, now appears  

Hi All,

IIRC when I was initially exploring Linux OpenSuse did not have a system which would enable "persistence" -- saving of changes without having to install it to a hard-drive. Of the dozen or so distros I explored based on DistroWatch's listing, OpenSuse seemed better than most, a notch or two behind pclinuxos in my opinion. But that was a decade ago. It would not be fair for me to make any assumptions about major distros today.

CubicleNate having paid us the courtesy of a not unkind review, I thought it worth the effort to clear up for his readers, if possible, any misunderstanding his post may have created. So I posted a comment which, after his approval, now appears on his blog.

Considering that by a comment bloggers don't expect a Book fleshing out all possible scenarios, in retrospect I'd only change two things. One is a scrivener's error (that its); and the potentially intimidating mention that there 5000 puppies without adding that most, older than 3 years, aren't maintained and rarely recommended.

That aside, I hope that my comment succinctly cleared up some misconceptions about Puppy. You can read it by following the link from 666philb post, then scrolling down.
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PostPosted: Sun 14 Jul 2019, 13:20    Post subject:  

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That aside, I hope that my comment succinctly cleared up some misconceptions about Puppy. You can read it by following the link from 666philb post, then scrolling down.


Bravo Mike Cool
Good review and an appreciated response to your comment ... Very Happy

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PostPosted: Mon 15 Jul 2019, 05:36    Post subject:  

Very nice and usefull review.

I agree with the author and bigpup that the installers in Puppy are not cutting it.
I have used it once in the beginning, got confused also, and in the end just did it manually.

I am still very much in favour of giving instructions how to install instead of giving an installer. Also on uefi.

I do not remember where I found the description to install manually at the time, but it must have been from Barry.
He can write it out superbly, so you do know what you are actually doing.

It is great that an openSuse user wishes for Suse to be "assimilated" into a Puppy!
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PostPosted: Mon 15 Jul 2019, 14:01    Post subject:  

foxpup wrote:
Very nice and usefull review.(...)
It is great that an openSuse user wishes for Suse to be "assimilated" into a Puppy!.
Hello all.

If my memory is not failing me, in the early days of BarryK's Woof, a forum member had
come up with a "recipe" to create a Puppy derived from OpenSuse -- or at least from
an rpm-based distro. Maybe dust off and revisit that project?

BFN.

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PostPosted: Mon 15 Jul 2019, 16:41    Post subject:  

mageia 2?, http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=573319#573319
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PostPosted: Mon 15 Jul 2019, 17:12    Post subject:  

darry19662018 wrote:
I blew up one of the screenshots it was the 64bit version of bionic.


Sure about that, Darren?

CubicleNate mentions the ultimate destination for Bionicpup64 as being an old Dell Inspiron 5100. I know more than a wee bit about this beastie, being as how it's the 'big brother' of my own 1100.....and 32-bit Pentium 4-based. (400 MHz FSB-only, y'see....)

Bionicpup64 won't run on there..!! My guess is it's peebee's UPupBB 19.0(3? 4?); I believe Peter's also using the 'Bionic doggie' as his default desktop wallpaper now. Phil's not the only one.


Mike. Wink

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PostPosted: Mon 15 Jul 2019, 18:35    Post subject:  

The review is reasonably fair, it seems to me, but he doesn't seem to understand that being able to use another distro's packages still uses Puppy Package manager (and would require lots of new woof-CE code to handle different distro) and not the upstream repos' native package manager:

Code:
There is a section, below the available downloads that states: “A Puppylinux distribution can also be built and assembled using packages and components from another Linux distribution called in Puppy the “binary compatible” distribution. The choice of a binary compatible distribution determines the availability of additional packages, among other things.

It made me think, Puppy Linux with an openSUSE base would be pretty fantastic. Having the package management tools of Zypper and configuration capabilities of YaST would make that a Prime Puppy Linux flavor.

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