Raspberry Pi Buster Raspup

[tony]

Hi and thanks for coming back.

The citizenship ca website looks for an updated Adobe program and if it does not find it , it wont let you in.

Evince is probably fine but you would probably need to spoof it to look like Adobe.

Another example. Skype worked well before it was taken over by Microsoft.
Afterwards, not so good.

Changing the subject a bit. How do we get accelerated graphics?

Regards. Tony.

[don570]

The site probably wants you to write info into a pdf file.
I guess only official Adobe program can do that.
You can go to local library.
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[FeodorF]

Sometimes ARM Linux images come with 7-zip compression. - "No, not ours."

As I was looking for '7-zip' forum member 'mikeslr' had a solution for my problem. You can look it up over there:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 05#1052205

[don570]

Cutting edge stuff...

UBPORTS has been able to run its linux based OS on a raspberry pi 3+
but it runs out of space if raspberry pi only has 1gb.

https://ubports.com/blog/ubports-blog-1 ... rry-pi-266

..but a lot of issues

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USB and wireless mice and keyboards work but selection remains odd.
Sometimes the mouse cursor seems trapped in an invisible box - moving it around eventually lets you reach other parts of the screen.
Often the area selected does not match where the cursor shows and clicking will select a previously selected area.
Moving the mouse repeatedly horizontally (or in some cases vertically depending on what you are trying to select) before clicking often works. Selecting specific areas of text is hard to get right.
The Pi touch screen works however there seems to be a linked issue, it easily selects areas that are difficult with the mouse but then fails at tasks like accessing the top pull down menu.
Repeated use of Tab then Return on the keyboard usually works when all else fails but is not a good user experience. Scroll wheel also seems reversed.

[ggv94]

Hi, when raspup boots it shows me this screen and it won't move on:https://photos.app.goo.gl/DtvZycWc85t6SigBA
What can or should I do? I own a Raspberry Pi 3 A+

[Dud]

ggv94

Kernel panic is usually a result of a corrupted SD card or an incomplete installation.

If this installation was working ok and the error suddenly appeared on a later boot/reboot then most likely is a power cut - aka switching off the supply - before the OS had finished writing its housekeeping data at shutdown.

If it has never booted then (assuming your md5 sum checked out) something went wrong when writing your micro-sdcard.

I suggest you rewrite the card and make certain to sync (flush) before you dismount it.

Good luck,

[lp-dolittle]

Hi all,

what the new RaspiOS is expected to achieve on the new Raspberry Pi 4 B 8GB, running totally in RAM, seems to be no problem for Raspberry Pi Buster Raspup on the Raspberry Pi 4 B 4 GB!

I'm a bit surprised that Sage who obviously appreciates this modus, so far did not comment on this option. Might that be due to the fact that booting the Raspberry PI 4 B via CD/DVD from an external CD/DVD drive would require some additional effort?

I, admittedly, did not/cannot test this variant because I do not own a powered hub, but why not copy a remastered iso-file onto a micro-sd card or a flashstick which can be removed immediately after booting?

ARM Puppies - and not yet developed ARM EasyOS variants - certainly deserve additional attention!!

kind regards

[Brown Mouse]

Has anyone managed to get 'CUPS' Printing working?

I've tried a few minor things including disabling firewall etc.but all I get from any browser is as shown in the attached screenshot.

TIA for any pointers.

[MattN]

I installed raspup on a 16GB sd card and found it was able to boot with no problems. The first thing I found was that trying to modify the over/under scan would allow me to make only positive adjustments. That wasn't too bad since the changes never showed up on the reboot. That was where the second problem occurred. When the program asks where to put the save file I used the second partition (I was under the assumption that everything being used on this puppy would be saved in the second partition -- WRONG). I was going to try to download the DEVX file but I got a meeage that there wasn't enough room on the sd card (I only had 14GB+ available).

I currently boot my system from a hard disk drive (using the sd to do the initial setup of the system using PINN to allow me to make the os selection). PINN is similar to the NOOBS program which is supplied by the Pi Foundation. The first question I have is why is there two partitions with the program residing in the FAT32 partition? I see that the FAT32 partition contains the normal stuff that NOOBS and PINN use to setup the system -- it also has the image file in it too. Could the image file be put into the second partition? If it could be it would make it MUCH easier to install it on my hard drive.

Thanks for hearing me out.

MattN

[aristos]

Last week I received a raspberry pi 3B+ revision 1.3.
Never managed to boot with raspup 8.2.0.
Just after boot options it gives me kernel panic, although many members of the forum report success.
Same thing happens either with dd(ing) the extracted img file to root device or coping raw files to already existing fat32 partition.(checked md5)
Strange enough raspup 8.1.3 and official distribution boots fine.
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[Sage]

Never managed to boot with raspup 8.2.0.

Follow my previous advice (twice recently)! Extract the image file and use USBImageWriter to transfer to a fresh SD card - it works every time. Leave the 'dd' CLI stuff to the gurus who use it everyday. One false step for neophytes guarantees failure!

[aristos]

Well,I use fdisk and dd since 1991 on a 286 computer running dos 3.3 but it is never too late to make mistakes.
Unfortunately from 2006 on Puppy Linux is my ONLY operating system.I am not going to run a gui application (probably with Wine?) for the first time and expect better results.
Sometimes the trip matters more than the destination.
Apart from that THANK YOU for your answer,my mistake, I just wanted to ask if somebody manage to boot from this specific revision (1.3)

[01micko]

The new 8.2.1 version is out and should fix the kernel panic

See main post

Sage - I put a note in the release notes to try usbimgwriter or etcher, thanks.

http://raspup.eezy.xyz/notes.php

[lp-dolittle]

@ 01micko,

First, thank you very much for the raspup 8.2.1 release!

@ EasyOS users,

running EasyOS 2.3.2, I successfully installed raspup 8.2.1 onto an sd-card via Barry's GUI Easydd tool. Very simple, without any problem, and while booting on my Raspberry Pi 4B 4GB, raspup expanded automatically, filling the entire sd-card (64 GB).

@ Sage,

aware of your dd-aversion, I would like to encourage you to try Barry's Easydd GUI. There is no risk of failing due to a typo in a CLI! You just need to know the name of the drive onto which you want to install.

Running a Puppy-OS on ARM-architecture feels very good ... and as previously mentioned, the running totally in RAM option makes Raspup superior to RaspiOS in some respect (not least demonstrating Puppy's 'efficiency')

kind regards

[keniv]

Use these instructions at your own risk

CLI (is the preferred method)

1. Grab sdcard or micro-sdcard (whatever fits your pi) and make 2 partitions, the first FAT32 of size 512MB, The second fills the rest of the card. Format that to ext2, ext3, ext4, f2fs, whichever.

2. Mount (as root, or sudo for Ubuntuers) the FIRST partition on the sdcard (FAT32) taking note of its mount point. It may be /mnt/sdc1 or /mnt/mmcblk0p1 or similar. It will be a 1

3. Go to the dir where you downloaded the zip file and run this:
Code:
ZIP=$(ls | grep -o raspup*zip|tail -1)
unzip $ZIP -d /mnt/MYMOUNTPOINT # this is the one you took note of earlier


4. if no errors occurred then unmount the card, remove from your card reader and poke it in the pi, power up and enjoy.

GUI

1. Grab sdcard or micro-sdcard (whatever fits your pi) and make 2 partitions, the first FAT32 of size 650MB, The second fills the rest of the card. Format that to ext2, ext3, ext4, f2fs, whichever.

2. make a new directory where you downloaded the zip file and extract the files in there. Copy all the files with drag'n'drop to MOUNTED FIRST partition of the sdcard, being sure NOT to copy the zip file as well

3. unmount the card, remove from your card reader and poke it in the pi, power up and enjoy.

I tried to use the both the CLI and the GUI instructions above to install Raspup Buster 8.2.1 but both failed. I can't see how either would work as the unzipped zip files are 2GB yet they are to be installed in a fat32 partition that is either 512 or 650MB. I assume I've misunderstood the instructions in some way. However, I did install the image by reformatting the 32GB sd card to fat32 using Easydd on Racy 5.5.1 in a similar way as others have done. I've used Easydd it a number of times before and it's never failed me.
I was able to boot up to a desktop on a Rasp Pi3b. I'm not that fond of Midori as a browser. I usually use Palemoon. Could not find Palemoon so I installed Firefox instead. This started from the menu. I went through the setup and all seemed well, however when I started to use it I kept getting errors on opening new tabs. This also happened when I tried to install extensions. I uninstalled Firefox and installed Chromium. This would not load from the menu. I looked at the .desktop file by opening it as text. Each time I tried to scroll down the file the text editor closed. Only looked at the file to see the execute instruction so as I could try it in a terminal but did not get that far. Have now uninstalled Chromium. I also had a problem with the save folder. On first shutdown which I did after the initial setup I found that most of the 32GB sd the card was taken up by a partition formatted as I think f2fs. Is this what I should expect? I have tried to mount this partition using Racy 5.5.1 but can't. GParted does not seem to know what it is either (see attached image). Can I reformat this partition to say ext3 and make a new save folder? Is anybody else having these sort of problems or is it just me?

Regards,

Ken.

[01micko]

Hello keniv,

The instructions you quote are _only_ if you download the file that does _not_ have '.img' in the name. That way you can format the card however you want. The '.img' files are intentionally formatted to f2fs which is newish filesystem designed by developers at Samsung and made open source and is included in the Linux kernel since the late 3 series kernels. Racy may be a bit old to understand it.

I agree that Midori isn't great but little else will run on a Pi 1 or Pi zero. I have to cater to the lowest common denominator. The recommended way to install a browser (and I should edit the notes at raspup.eezy.xyz to be more clear) is by installing as an SFS with the utility in the setup menu 'Download System SFS Files' (mentioned in the release notes at ibiblio... hmmmm I may not have made a link so I'll have to make this info more public )

If you have managed to extract the image in Racy with EasyDD then that is great! And thanks to lp-dolittle too for highlighting EasyDD in the previous post. Barry has further developed it for use on other Linux distros so I should add that to the notes so people can try it. Unfortunately, Racy is just a bit too old to understand f2fs filesystem. That isn't all bad. You can reformat that partition in any other linux with gparted or any other partition manager to any filesystem you like including ext3.

Regarding problems with Firefox on the 3B, I haven't had too many, but my testing has been limited. I tested a few youtube videos and a few sites I visit regularly and that's about it. As for chromium, if you install as an sfs as mentioned above then you shouldn't have too much problem. I notice you have the 'swap' image which is a good thing as chromium (and vivaldi) can be a bit RAM hungry. On the drawing board is a RAM monitor which warns if RAM is low so you have a chance to save stuff before losing valuable work.

Thanks for your report Ken and I hope this info helps.

[aristos]

01micko

Problem solved.It was the <= 8 gig sd card issue.
New Raspup boots fine now.

[01micko]

01micko

Problem solved.It was the <= 8 gig sd card issue.
New Raspup boots fine now.

I knew it! Found the bug in the ScPup thread recently Thanks for confirmation. I hope now you can continue and enjoy using/breaking/fixing raspup!

[keniv]

Hello 01micko,
Thanks for your reply and all the information therein. based on it I've got a little further.

Regarding problems with Firefox on the 3B, I haven't had too many, but my testing has been limited. I tested a few youtube videos and a few sites I visit regularly and that's about it. As for chromium, if you install as an sfs as mentioned above then you shouldn't have too much problem. I notice you have the 'swap' image which is a good thing as chromium (and vivaldi) can be a bit RAM hungry. On the drawing board is a RAM monitor which warns if RAM is low so you have a chance to save stuff before losing valuable work.

I originally tried to install Firefox from install>install applications>choose an sfs file. When I clicked on this I got something like " this is only for frugal installs" which did make me wonder. Today I tried menu>setup>download system sfs files. I chose firefox. I got something like "ar not installed will try to get .deb" then a message that it could not connect raspbian repositories. I tried again with chromium and got the same result. I decided to try the install>install applications>choose an sfs file method again and this time I was given the option to download firefox and convert it to an sfs file. I know have firefox installed from which I'm posting
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Unfortunately, Racy is just a bit too old to understand f2fs filesystem.

Yes you right, when I looked at it with busterdog I could see it and the contents of the save folder. I've decided to leave the partition formatted as f2sf.

The instructions you quote are _only_ if you download the file that does _not_ have '.img' in the name.

I'm fairly sure the first file I downloaded was raspup-8.2.1-a60dc46d9.zip but I also remember that when I unzipped it it was an .img file which made me wonder. I cant tell now as I deleted it after I downloaded raspup-8.2.1-a60dc46d9-2gb-f2fs-swap.img.zip. I probably made a mistake.
I will now have a play with raspup 8.2.1 and see how I get on. It certainly boots up very fast. I normally use raspbian stretch on this pi as it runs a software defined radio program, which I can't get to work properly on raspbian buster and it's much faster than that. Perhaps that's not a surprise. Thanks again for your help.

Regards,

Ken.

[lp-dolittle]

@ 01micko

Hi 01micko,

after some limited testing of Raspup 8.2.1, I met the following problems.

1. the save option at shutdown/reboot (intuitively) reminds me of the procedure in Quirky Xerus which Barry (if I correctly recall) does not consider very 'reliable'. Could this explain that my sessions prove not to be completely saved? Internet connection needs to be re-established after every reboot.

2. The PPM shows a somewhat strange behaviour. Trying to install Pets via the step by step method may result in error messages, while the 'Auto install' variant (for the same Pet) works flawlessly.

kind regards