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way to record audio streams - audio-recorder not in repo
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haywirepc

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PostPosted: Tue 01 Oct 2019, 20:54    Post subject:  way to record audio streams - audio-recorder not in repo  

been trying a few ways to record audio playing on the computer to wav or mp3 file. on windows i used total record. in linux mint i use audio-recorder but i can not seem to find that in puppy repos and its confusing how to add the repo as described for linux mint not the same in puppy.

any ideas failing finding an audio-recorder pet or deb how i can record audio from youtube to a wav or mp3 file...

thanks for any help.
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nic007


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PostPosted: Tue 01 Oct 2019, 21:15    Post subject:  

An audio recorder is definitely part of the standard puppy builtin tools. Look under multimedia in the menu. Not all Puppys use the same tool but Bacon Recorder is one of them. However - There is a much easier and faster way to download audio from youtube. I normally use an online downloader like
https://9xbuddy.com/sites/ok-ru or https://www.savethevideo.com/
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dancytron

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PostPosted: Tue 01 Oct 2019, 21:18    Post subject:  

What version of Puppy are you using?

Assuming Ubuntu based, you should be able to download it on this page.

https://launchpad.net/~audio-recorder/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+packages

Open "twisties" to see details for each version

Assuming Bionic 64 bit

https://launchpad.net/~audio-recorder/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+files/audio-recorder_2.1.3~bionic_amd64.deb

Bionic 32 bit

https://launchpad.net/~audio-recorder/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+files/audio-recorder_2.1.3~bionic_i386.deb

Install by clicking on them in rox filer.

You may still have to go on a dependency hunt after that.
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haywirepc

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PostPosted: Wed 02 Oct 2019, 22:22    Post subject:  

thanks i was able to get audio-recorder installed but it dosn't seem to work, i tried all sources, won't seem to record what is playing on the pc...

will look for some other options i suppose.

audacity will do this if you have pulse installed, or so i read, i thought i had installed pulse but pulseaudio command not found...

anyone know the file to install to install pulse.
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Flash
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PostPosted: Thu 03 Oct 2019, 00:18    Post subject:  

Does your Puppy have mhWaveEdit audio recorder editor in the Multimedia section? It's a very powerful program. I'll bet it can do what you want.
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OscarTalks


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PostPosted: Thu 03 Oct 2019, 05:49    Post subject:  

The program Precord works well for me and is included in some Puppies though perhaps not all. The package can be found here:-
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=49907

Remember that the audio that gets recorded is determined by the capture settings and source. The audio that comes out of speakers is the playback which is different from the capture. One is the output and the other is the input. If you want to record "What I Hear" you need to have a way of looping it back in.

If the audio you are listening to is actually a file (on a server somewhere) then it is best to download it for playback later whenever you choose.

If the audio you are listening to is really a stream, you can rip it and save it as a file using MPlayer
http://mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/streaming.html#streaming-save
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3.4.1. Saving streamed content

Once you succeed in making MPlayer play your favorite internet stream, you can use the option -dumpstream to save the stream into a file. For example:

mplayer http://217.71.208.37:8006 -dumpstream -dumpfile stream.asf

will save the content streamed from http://217.71.208.37:8006 into stream.asf. This works with all protocols supported by MPlayer, like MMS, RTSP, and so forth.


For YouTube there is youtube-dl from command line or I believe GUIs are available, or try
https://invidio.us
This offers saving video or audio in several formats

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Mike Walsh


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PostPosted: Thu 03 Oct 2019, 06:18    Post subject:  

I, too, have tried 'audio-recorder' before now, since I used it in Ubuntu before making the move to Puppy. Like haywirepc has discovered, it doesn't work.....and nothing you can do will persuade it to, either.

I concur with Nic and Flash here. don570's Bacon Recorder works well for me on the old Dell lappie, but, due to the weird way my audio chip on the big Compaq tower responds to recording under Puppy, I've found mhWaveEdit to be a much better prospect.....mainly due to the fact that:-

a) You can edit the track to your heart's content, and

b) I find its built-in speed adjuster function to be necessary for me; I have to increase the speed by around 48-50% in Puppy to get things sounding right, because even after updating ffmpeg throughout the kennels, audio still comes out all slow and 'treacly'-sounding....

mhWaveEdit is indeed a lot more powerful than most people give it credit for.....and it comes with Pup by default. Recommended.


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Geek3579

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PostPosted: Fri 04 Oct 2019, 08:55    Post subject:  

I agree with Mike.

mhWaveedit is a great program, with lots of options. And it saves recorded files really fast. It is my go-to program for recording audio from vinyl records.

FYI, I also use Gnome Wave Cleaner to remove noise and clicks, although it will only output audio if pulse audio is installed.
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number77

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PostPosted: Fri 04 Oct 2019, 13:09    Post subject:  

Mike Walsh wrote:
I, too, have tried 'audio-recorder' before now, since I used it in Ubuntu before making the move to Puppy. Like haywirepc has discovered, it doesn't work.....and nothing you can do will persuade it to, either.

I concur with Nic and Flash here. don570's Bacon Recorder works well for me on the old Dell lappie, but, due to the weird way my audio chip on the big Compaq tower responds to recording under Puppy, I've found mhWaveEdit to be a much better prospect.....mainly due to the fact that:-

a) You can edit the track to your heart's content, and

b) I find its built-in speed adjuster function to be necessary for me; I have to increase the speed by around 48-50% in Puppy to get things sounding right, because even after updating ffmpeg throughout the kennels, audio still comes out all slow and 'treacly'-sounding....

mhWaveEdit is indeed a lot more powerful than most people give it credit for.....and it comes with Pup by default. Recommended.


Mike. Wink

I still have this problem: am I recording digital input to sound card or analogue output from card converted back to digital.
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nic007


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PostPosted: Fri 04 Oct 2019, 19:33    Post subject:  

Analogue wave which is then encoded to mp3 or whatever format your recorder tool can encode to. So, if you want to record sound from say youtube, it is better to download the already encoded sound file than recording through your sound card and encoding again.
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PostPosted: Fri 04 Oct 2019, 22:58    Post subject:  

It is better in theory to record the digital file, but in practice you won't notice any difference.
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nic007


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PostPosted: Fri 04 Oct 2019, 23:35    Post subject:  

Flash wrote:
It is better in theory to record the digital file, but in practice you won't notice any difference.


How is it better? There will definitely be a drop in quality if you re-encode an already encoded soundfile (eg. on youtube). Best is to download it from original source.
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