Is there interest in an Arch32 Pup???

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s243a · #31 Post by **s243a** » Sat 15 Feb 2020, 04:55

I'm looking in /etc/DISTRO_SPECS and I see:
DISTRO_TARGETARCH=''

This is typically used in DISTRO_COMPAT_REPOS. For instance in dpup stretch we have:

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case "$DISTRO_TARGETARCH" in
	x86)    DBIN_ARCH=i386  ;;
	x86_64) DBIN_ARCH=amd64 ;;
esac

We actually want DBIN_ARCH=i686 or i486. See here.
https://32.arlm.tyzoid.com/

which I git from the mirror list. I'll assume that we want i486 for the widest compatibility, in which case we have:

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case "$DISTRO_TARGETARCH" in
	x86)    
            if [ "$DISTRO_BINARY_COMPAT" = arch ]; then
                DBIN_ARCH=i486 
            else
                DBIN_ARCH=i386  
            fi; ;;
	x86_64) DBIN_ARCH=amd64 ;;
esac

When we finish the DISTRO_COMPAT_REPOS file then we need to add it to woof-CE. For example:

woof-CE/woof-distro/x86/debian/stretch/DISTRO_COMPAT_REPOS-debian-stretch

It looks like there is a separate one for each distro release, so the above logic that I have might not be needed.

s243a · #32 Post by **s243a** » Sat 15 Feb 2020, 05:24

darry19662018 wrote:Yes looked in ./packages folder and I can confirm DISTRO_COMPAT_REPOS is missing.

Here's a rough draft on how I think it should look:

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...
PKG_DOCS_DISTRO_COMPAT="
z|https://32.arlm.tyzoid.com/${DBIN_ARCH}/core/core.db.tar.gz|Packages-arch-${DISTRO_COMPAT_VERSION}-core
z|https://32.arlm.tyzoid.com/${DBIN_ARCH}/community/community.db.tar.gz|Packages-arch-${DISTRO_COMPAT_VERSION}-community
z|https://32.arlm.tyzoid.com/${DBIN_ARCH}/extra/extra.db.tar.gz|Packages-arch-${DISTRO_COMPAT_VERSION}-extra
"
...
REPOS_DISTRO_COMPAT="
z|https://32.arlm.tyzoid.com|Packages-arch-${DISTRO_COMPAT_VERSION}-*
"

https://pastebin.com/SKpLWAk0

Click on the above link to see the full file. I'll test it now

s243a · #33 Post by **s243a** » Sat 15 Feb 2020, 05:40

In the version of DISTRO_COMPAT_REPOS, that I copied and modified from dpup stretch it was only looking for DISTRO_SPECS at ./DISTRO_SPECS. I modified this so that it also looks in /etc/DISTRO_SPECS

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if [ "$DISTRO_COMPAT_VERSION" = "" ] ; then
    if [ -f ./DISTRO_SPECS ]; then
      . ./DISTRO_SPECS
    elif [ -f /etc/DISTRO_SPECS ]; then
      . /etc/DISTRO_SPECS
    fi
fi

https://pastebin.com/SKpLWAk0

Anyway, calling the 0setup command with the file at the above link appears to update the repos for me.

. I'll now start the package manager with the ppm command and see if I can install anything.

s243a · #34 Post by **s243a** » Sat 15 Feb 2020, 05:42

We also apear to be missing the "sc_category" file:

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sandbox# ppm
/usr/local/bin/ppm: line 32: /var/local/petget/sc_category: No such file or directory

s243a · #35 Post by **s243a** » Sat 15 Feb 2020, 05:49

It looks like we need a vercmp command. Should we install such a package or write our own version of this command?

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/usr/local/petget/show_installed_version_diffs.sh: line 23: vercmp: command not found

some more errors:

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ls: cannot access '/tmp/petget_proc/*_pet_quietly': No such file or directory
ls: cannot access '/tmp/petget_proc/install_classic': No such file or directo

regarding the first error, I see the file, "install_pets_quietly" which looks like what might be intended. I think that install_classic, is supposed to come from a ppm drop down menu.

One more error:

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awk: fatal: cannot open file `/tmp/petget_proc/overall_pkg_size' for reading (No such file or directory)

I'll look into the last error first.

s243a · #36 Post by **s243a** » Sat 15 Feb 2020, 06:23

I tried switching to step by step install and got the following error:

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/usr/local/petget/installpreview.sh: line 263: 0 + 22970.7 : syntax error: invalid arithmetic operator (error token is ".7 ")

Maybe we need to round or alternatively, use a tool that can handle decimals.

In other words replace:

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#INSTALLEDSIZEK=$(( $INSTALLEDSIZEK + $ADDSIZEK ))

with

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   INSTALLEDSIZEK=$(echo "$INSTALLEDSIZEK + $ADDSIZEK" | bc )

s243a · #37 Post by **s243a** » Sat 15 Feb 2020, 06:57

Starting at line #263 of /usr/local/petget/installpreview.sh

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   INSTALLEDSIZEK=$(echo "$INSTALLEDSIZEK + $ADDSIZEK" | bc )
   echo "$INSTALLEDSIZEK" > /tmp/petget_proc/petget_installedsizek
  done < $ONEDEPSLIST
  INSTALLEDSIZEK=`cat /tmp/petget_proc/petget_installedsizek`
 done
 MOREFRAMES="`cat /tmp/petget_proc/petget_moreframes`"
 
 INSTALLEDSIZEM=$(echo "$INSTALLEDSIZEK / 1024" | bc)
 MSGWARN2="$(gettext "If that looks OK, click the 'Install' button...")"
 testSIZEK=$(echo "$INSTALLEDSIZEK / 3" | bc )
 testSIZEK=$(echo "$INSTALLEDSIZEK + $testSIZEK" | bc)
 testSIZEK=$(echo "$testSIZEK + 8000" | bc)
 testSIZEK=$(printf "%.0f\n" $testSIZEK) #https://bits.mdminhazulhaque.io/linux/round-number-in-bash-script.html
 [ $testSIZEK -gt $SIZEFREEK ] && MSGWARN2="$(gettext "Not too good! recommend that you make more space before installing -- see 'Resize personal storage file' in the 'Utility' menu.")"

https://pastebin.com/tjp4axbB

I used bc for arithmetic operations instead of the shell built-ins. It allowed me to proceed further with the installation of firefox. I'll update this post once I see whether or not it has installed.

Edit: It seems to be installing firefox. For instance, I see that it installed the file list "colord-1.4.4+9+g1ce26da.files". colord is a dependency of firefox. If I look at one of the files (e.g. /usr/bin/colormgr), I see that it showed up in my save file. Installation, is taking a while because I'm testing this on a slow laptop (perhaps mostly due to I/O issues on my usb drive). I'll test it again on a different computer.

Edit 2: the ppm tells me that firefox-72.0.1 was sucesfully installed and that I'm missing the following two libraries:libgdk-3.so.0 and libgtk-3.so.0.I haven't tested firefox yet.

s243a · #38 Post by **s243a** » Sat 15 Feb 2020, 07:25

So here is a summary, on how to get the ppm working. Copy the following two files:
/var/packages/DISTRO_COMPAT_REPOS
/usr/local/petget/installpreview.sh

(** These files should be copied by clicking on the raw button in pastebin, selecting all the text and using copy and paste. If you click the download button instead you'll have to fix the line endings. The second file already exists so copy the text into the existing file so that you keep the same premissions)

After adding/replacing these files, then run the command:

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/usr/local/petget/0setup

to update all repo db files. Now start the puppy package manger with the command, "ppm", you could alternativly start it via the menus but if you do this you won't have as much debugging information.

Search for the package you want, select the dropdown menu first so it says "step by step install" rather then "auto install". Now install the package.

P.S. If you want you can change 486 to 686 in DISTRO_COMPAT_REPOS

Edit: I'm actually surprised this this is working given that in DISTRO_SPECS we have DISTRO_TARGETARCH='' (see previous post)

peebee · #39 Post by **peebee** » Sat 15 Feb 2020, 09:28

Thanks for the testing / bug hunting

Here is what should have been in the build - false.gz

I will investigate why its not being included.

I'm using the pentium4 branch of Arch32 to build.

I will also investigate the absence of vercmp

mavrothal · #40 Post by **mavrothal** » Sat 15 Feb 2020, 18:57

Hmmm, I wonder how you managed to build Archpup as Arch support has been removed from woof some time now.
As a result PPM, 0setup etc do not know how to handle Arch packages and databases.
Not sure how functional the removed code might still be, but using PPM from Tahrpup-6.0.5, (the last one with Arch support) might give an idea.
BTW RedHat/Scientific was also removed back then by Igu.

musher0 · #41 Post by **musher0** » Sat 15 Feb 2020, 19:14

Hi, peebee and all.

First test of Arch32Pup.

Internet wizard says it can see the connection but not connect to it, both with BK's simple
script and the slightly bigger connection script by "Forgot his name" (sorry). I tried
resetting the BIOS before rebooting (for port recognition), to no avail.

The other apps and utilities I tested work ok. This will be a nice traditional Pup,
once debugged. Thanks again, peebee.

BFN.

darry19662018 · #42 Post by **darry19662018** » Sat 15 Feb 2020, 19:55

mavrothal wrote:Hmmm, I wonder how you managed to build Archpup as Arch support has been removed from woof some time now.
As a result PPM, 0setup etc do not know how to handle Arch packages and databases.
Not sure how functional the removed code might still be, but using PPM from Tahrpup-6.0.5, (the last one with Arch support) might give an idea.
BTW RedHat/Scientific was also removed back then by Igu.

I didn't want to say this but I will - a short sighted move should never have happened considering Ubuntu 32bit has gone down the tubes and the removal of Devuan - oh well!!

peebee · #43 Post by **peebee** » Sat 15 Feb 2020, 20:47

mavrothal wrote:Hmmm, I wonder how you managed to build Archpup

Quite a long story involving a fair degree of "jiggery pokery"

mavrothal · #44 Post by **mavrothal** » Sat 15 Feb 2020, 21:31

peebee wrote:
mavrothal wrote:Hmmm, I wonder how you managed to build Archpup
Quite a long story involving a fair degree of "jiggery pokery"

You might want to revert the arch-deleting commit and start from there, instead...

I managed to get 0setup going with minimal changes in the original.
However is still no good as find_cat although is statically compiled segfaults so can not go all the way to database update.
Do you have a devx to recompile and see if it behaves?

s243a · #45 Post by **s243a** » Sat 15 Feb 2020, 23:48

mavrothal wrote:
peebee wrote:
mavrothal wrote:Hmmm, I wonder how you managed to build Archpup
Quite a long story involving a fair degree of "jiggery pokery"
You might want to revert the arch-deleting commit and start from there, instead...

Pebee's version of 0setup worked for me. I did need to change one file and add one missing file (see post), but the 0setup part was good.

That said, it would be worth inquiring what changes that peebee made. These may be the same changes that you tried. I might do a file comparison to see if there are any meaningful differences between yours and pebees version.

I managed to get 0setup going with minimal changes in the original.
However is still no good as find_cat although is statically compiled segfaults so can not go all the way to database update.
Do you have a devx to recompile and see if it behaves?

I didn't have this issue (with Pebee's iso), granted I did my testing on a sandbox. I'll have to try a live boot to make sure that everything still works.

BTW, if you want I can make an awk version of find_cat. I already did most of the work.

musher0 · #46 Post by **musher0** » Sun 16 Feb 2020, 00:57

Hellooo-o?

Anybody has a hint to share about my Internet connection not working in Arch32Pup?
Ref.: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... st#1050454

TIA.

norgo · #47 Post by **norgo** » Sun 16 Feb 2020, 02:07

Hello @musher0

I guess you are talking about a wifi connection ?
You cand see the networks around but it's not possible to connect ?
Sounds like missing firmware.

open a terminal an type modinfo [kernelmodul-name]
you should see what firmware is needed and where to place [/lib/firmware/shown-fw-path]

# modinfo rtl8192cu
filename: /lib/modules/5.4.17-lxpup64/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/realtek/rtlwifi/rtl8192cu/rtl8192cu.ko
firmware: rtlwifi/rtl8192cufw_TMSC.bin
firmware: rtlwifi/rtl8192cufw_B.bin
firmware: rtlwifi/rtl8192cufw_A.bin
firmware: rtlwifi/rtl8192cufw.bin
description: Realtek 8192C/8188C 802.11n USB wireless
license: GPL
author: Larry Finger <Larry.Finger@lwfinger.net>
author: Ziv Huang <ziv_huang@realtek.com>
author: Georgia <georgia@realtek.com>
alias: usb:v7392p7822d*dc*dsc*dp*ic*isc*ip*in*
alias: usb:v2357p0100d*dc*dsc*dp*ic*isc*ip*in*
alias: usb:v20F4p624Dd*dc*dsc*dp*ic*isc*ip*in*
alias: usb:v2019pAB2Bd*dc*dsc*dp*ic*isc*ip*in*

after that you can search for the needed fw at your system
if not present it's easy to add

musher0 · #48 Post by **musher0** » Sun 16 Feb 2020, 03:29

Thanks norgo.

I have no wifi, just a good old ethernet cable connection.
It says < enp0s19 > as the interface. Port is ether0.

TIA.

musher0 · #49 Post by **musher0** » Sun 16 Feb 2020, 04:33

lshw says the device is:

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[~]>lshw -quiet -short | grep enp0
/0/100/13         enp0s19         network     RTL-8100/8101L/8139 PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter

TIA.

musher0 · #50 Post by **musher0** » Sun 16 Feb 2020, 04:37

Ok. Where is it?

[~]>modinfo rtl8100
modinfo: ERROR: Module rtl8100 not found.

[~]>modinfo rtl8101
modinfo: ERROR: Module rtl8101 not found.

[~]>modinfo rtl8139
modinfo: ERROR: Module rtl8139 not found.

TIA

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