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EasyPup version 2.2.14, released March 27, 2020
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BarryK
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PostPosted: Fri 07 Feb 2020, 19:09    Post subject:  

I'm baack! Been away on the South Coast all week:

https://bkhome.org/news/202002/first-camping-trip-in-2020.html

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PostPosted: Fri 07 Feb 2020, 19:11    Post subject:
Subject description: EasyPup 2.2.7
 

Billtoo wrote:
The option to increase the size of the save file doesn't work.


Billtoo, Rodney,
back on-board after a nice break -- though still had Internet access while on holiday.

Resizing of the save-file is fixed, well, it should be:

https://bkhome.org/news/202002/easypup-resize-save-file-fixed.html

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BarryK
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PostPosted: Fri 07 Feb 2020, 19:21    Post subject:  

Caneri wrote:
Ty Barry!

This works well on my problematic Acer.
Acer hangs at shutdown/reboot with all other versions of pup and Easypup is mostly good to go.

I need to learn the container stuff as I've been away for a long time.

This will definitely replace my old Lucid5.28 as a daily OS.

Best,
Eric


Eric,
Hey, it has been a long time since I saw a post from you. Welcome back!

EasyPup is a "classical Puppy", from the Wary and Racy 5.5 era, around 2012-2013. What is merged from EasyOS is recent packages and many improved utilities, such as NetworkManager.

What is not brought from EasyOS is support for containers.

I intend to leave EasyPup as a classical Puppy, will not compete with the latest Woof-CE built pups.

The merging from EasyOS has caused some issues, that I will continue to discover and fix. But that's it, it will remain an old pup.

If you want container support, and other innovations, see the EasyOS thread:

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=109958

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rockedge


Joined: 11 Apr 2012
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PostPosted: Sat 08 Feb 2020, 12:39    Post subject:  

Decided to give EasyPup a whirl and wow! It really is working well on this Dell Optiplex 990 4 core 4 thread cpu 8 gigs of RAM.

So I decided to go all in and attempt to install a LAMP and ZoneMinder and see how easy it would be using the tools already present in EasyPup.

Well it almost worked using the PPM only and some geany editing of config files for Apache. I usually always replace Apache with my favourite Hiawatha but in this case the test is using EasyPup to install all the components.

Since installing ZoneMInder is somewhat complicated it did not work out of the box but came really close! The potential looks good and I am really pleased with the speed and constincey that EasyPup is running on this machine. SeaMonkey is just really really fast.

Good stuff. Great potential and I'm just getting started experimenting with this set up in a container!

overall very nice system.
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Caneri

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PostPosted: Sat 08 Feb 2020, 13:45    Post subject:  

This easypup is very good. I plead to Barry to keep this one going. Big ty to Barry! There might be a LOT of users from Lucid 5.28 filtering back I reckon.

I have some issues with the firewall being inconsistent with seamonkey and firefox (grc.com testing). Dunno why yet.

I find Seamonkey very good. I'm used to Firefox with no scipts and will use it for certain jobs but Seamonkey is a good daily driver. Well rendered pages etc.

I'll spend time on this one and try to help with testing of new versions.

I don't spend much time on computer now as there seems to be more important things to do in retirement, but for this one I'll spend some time.

Libra Office works well and for some reason my crappy Acer works as it should for the most part.

I've found a new home.

Best,
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Billtoo


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PostPosted: Sat 08 Feb 2020, 19:18    Post subject: EasyPup version 2.2.7  

I installed EasyPup 2.2.7 to my 12 year old Acer desktop a couple of days ago:

Computer
Processor 4x Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz
Memory 8164MB (288MB used)
Machine Type Physical machine
Operating System Puppy Buster64

OpenGL
Vendor nouveau
Renderer NVC1
Version 4.3 (Compatibility Profile) Mesa 18.3.6
Direct Rendering Y_es

I updated ppm again today and firefox has been updated to version 68.4.1esr.

I've been enjoying the audio/video applications, Audacious and mpv get used
the most.

Thanks.
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PostPosted: Sat 08 Feb 2020, 21:16    Post subject:  

Forum member esmourguit has been maintaining the French translation for EasyOS, but ran into problems with EasyPup, as some of the scripts are different.

I have figured out a strategy to handle this:

https://bkhome.org/news/202002/international-translation-of-easypup.html

The way translating is being done with the WoofQ-built EasyOS and EasyPup, is a build is done for each translation. So in the case of EasyPup, there will be English, French and German ISOs.

In other words, it will already be translated, right from the first bootup menu, no need to install a langpack PET.

The 'init' script in the initrd is circa-2013, as are all the Puppy-specific scripts, and looking at it after many years, it is, well, a "dogs breakfast".
I have been working on it, don't yet know if it handles the non-English builds properly.

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PostPosted: Sat 08 Feb 2020, 21:27    Post subject:  

Just something, while I remember it:

if you think that something has gone wrong in the initrd, there is now a lot of logging in this folder:

/root/.initrd-debug

...there is a file in there, /root/.initrd-debug/tmp/bootinit.log, where I saw the error message that 'e2fsck' had failed to resize the ext4 filesystem to fill the larger save-file (I have now upgraded e2fsck).

Looking around in there may reveal the cause of any issues at early bootup.

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PostPosted: Sun 09 Feb 2020, 09:22    Post subject: Re: Internet connection
Subject description: security
 

lp-dolittle wrote:
@ Barry,

Hi Barry,

what about these error messages which use to pop up since some time?

kind regards


These days, all browsers default to popping up a warning if there are "http://" links on a "https://" web page.

My site is https://bkhome.org/news, but sometimes I post links to http:// URLs, such as this forum, which causes the popup warning.

As you showed in one of the snapshots, the popup warning can be disabled. I don't know how to pre-configure not to have the warning for my site -- presume it is inside an sqlite database file in /root/.mozilla

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PostPosted: Sun 09 Feb 2020, 09:26    Post subject:  

OverDrive wrote:
Oh, and the universal installer requires some extra program to install to ext4 partition.

ext3 worked well though.


The only thing I know is wrong with ext4 was the 'e2fsck' utility in the initrd was broken for ext4. I have upgraded that utility.

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PostPosted: Sun 09 Feb 2020, 09:29    Post subject: Re: First impressions  

davids45 wrote:
G'day BK,

Posting from Easy227 via OperaPortable. HP smallform desktop, vintage mid 2000's.

I had a number of start-up issues with deleted icons re-appearing and added desktop icons for some directories not re-loading.

I imagine this is because my desktop computer has about 28 partitions and I run most programs from a boot-mounted data partition to keep the savefile small. So a lot going on during start-up?

With repeated re-boots while adding more applications (as a collection of symlinks in a single sfs), start up is now more 'settled' with most changes being re-loaded.

I agree with poster Overdrive that a save directory is more convenient than the old-fashioned save-file - particularly if there is a re-size issue at the moment.

I also miss shinobar's excellent SFS-Load-on-the-Fly - easier than the BootManager and not restricted by the old '6 sfs or less' constraint.

And there's a pupsave-hotbackup application that I find very handy when tinkering/crashing Embarassed new Puppies which I could not find in this Easy.

I also miss the JWM desktop manager that allows easy re-positioning of the drive icons during booting. Easy227's default spacing is too wide to put all my partitions on a single row across the screen bottom (attached image of present pinboard - icons of non-running (yet?) apps grouped in centre-bottom of image - all other icons run their apps).

Printing and scanning is working (Epson-WF2510 networked inkjet) and after some teething troubles (see above), WiFi connection seems to be starting reliably.

So I've added Easy227 to my partition of 64-bit Frugals on this computer, and might try on my Samsung laptop when time permits.

Thanks for all your 'doings'.

David S.


Some of these issues I will have to think about a bit more.

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PostPosted: Sun 09 Feb 2020, 09:37    Post subject:  

watchdog wrote:
Bootmanager not working for me to load a sfs at boot. I have many sfs's at root dir. Clicking the button to add an sfs does nothing. Installed sfs_load by shinobar and loaded chromium sfs from sfsget. This chromium is not supported by google and I can't login at my account. I tried Google_Chrome-portable by MikeWalsh. I found a way to start it: use run-as-spot from ScPup64-20.01 and add "--no-sandbox" at last line in chrome-pup inside the portable Chrome.


I have so far only tested the devx SFS, running the live-CD, with a save-file.

Downloaded the devx SFS using "sfsget" on the desktop.
Then ran 'bootmanager' and selected the devx.
Rebooted, and it was loaded, success.

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PostPosted: Sun 09 Feb 2020, 09:39    Post subject: Re: EasyPup version 2.2.7  

Billtoo wrote:
I updated ppm again today and firefox has been updated to version 68.4.1esr.


I had better update the database for the next build.

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PostPosted: Mon 10 Feb 2020, 22:14    Post subject:  

is there a fix for the save file resize function?
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PostPosted: Tue 11 Feb 2020, 01:30    Post subject:  

rockedge wrote:
is there a fix for the save file resize function?


BarryK has already posted about this bug:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=1049914#1049914
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