Cheap machines ideal for Puppy
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You might also want to try http://ztechshop.net/computers/sub-100/ $100 PC.
* CPU: Intel Pentium 3 1Ghz
* Memory: 256MB Upgradable to 512MB
* Hard Drive: 10GB
* Network: 10/100 Fast Ethernet w/Optional external 56k modem
* Audio: Built in sound
* 4 USB 2.0 ports
* Depth: 13.93 in
* Height: 3.57 in
* Width: 12.54 in
* Weight: ~15 lb
* CPU: Intel Pentium 3 1Ghz
* Memory: 256MB Upgradable to 512MB
* Hard Drive: 10GB
* Network: 10/100 Fast Ethernet w/Optional external 56k modem
* Audio: Built in sound
* 4 USB 2.0 ports
* Depth: 13.93 in
* Height: 3.57 in
* Width: 12.54 in
* Weight: ~15 lb
Compaq IPAQ 500 Celeron $25 USD shipped...
Edit 02/2014 - the link originally posted no longer exists...
$25 USD Shipped in the US...
Manufacturer's product description
Compaq refers to its latest product, the iPAQ, as an Internet device, implying that its primary purpose is to access the Web. Such a product is typically meant for consumers. The Compaq iPAQ is in fact a fully functional corporate PC - albeit an unusual one. Smaller than most mini-towers and irregular in shape, the iPAQ has no bus slots, and its lone external drive bay does not accept desktop drives. Rather, it accepts the hot-swappable drives typically used in Compaq's Armada notebooks. This uniquely designed product is ideal for corporate network environments and for employees who primarily use their PC for mainstream office productivity applications and corporate Internet/intranet access.
General
Processor
Type: Intel Celeron 500 MHz
Cache memory
Type: L2 Cache - Pipeline Burst
Installed Size: 128 KB (installed) / 128 KB (max)
Mainboard
Chipset Type: Intel 810E
Data Bus Speed: 66 MHz
Ram
Installed Size: 128MB / 512 MB (max)
Storage
Hard Drive:4+ GB
Graphics controller
Type: AGP - integrated
Video Memory: Shared Video Memory (UMA)
Installed Size: 4 MB
Supported Display Graphics: VGA (640x480), XGA (1024x768), SVGA (800x600), SXGA (1280x1024)
Video Output Supported: RGB
Audio output
Type: Sound card - PCI - integrated
Signal Processor: Intel 810
Sound Output Mode: Stereo
Max Sample Rate: 48 kHz
Compliant Standards: Sound Blaster 16/Pro, AC '97
Input device
Type: Mouse, keyboard
Networking
Networking: Network adapter - PCI - integrated
Data Link Protocol: Ethernet, Fast Ethernet
Compliant Standards: IEEE 802.3, IEEE 802.3u
Expansion / connectivity
Expansion Bays Total (Free): 1 ( 1 ) x hot-swap - Slim Line
Expansion Slots Total (Free):
1 ( 0 ) x processor
2 ( 1 ) x memory - DIMM 168-PIN
Interfaces:
2 x USB - 4 PIN USB Type A
1 x microphone - input - mini-phone mono 3.5 mm
1 x audio - line-out - mini-phone stereo 3.5 mm
1 x headphones - output - mini-phone stereo 3.5 mm
1 x audio - line-In - mini-phone stereo 3.5 mm
1 x network - Ethernet 10Base-T/100Base-TX - RJ-45
1 x display / video - VGA - 15 pin HD D-Sub (HD-15)
Operating system / software
OS Provided: NONE
NO FLOPPY INSTALLED
NO CD-ROM INSTALLED (SLOT IS OPEN FOR LAPTOP TYPE CD ROM)
$25 USD Shipped in the US...
Manufacturer's product description
Compaq refers to its latest product, the iPAQ, as an Internet device, implying that its primary purpose is to access the Web. Such a product is typically meant for consumers. The Compaq iPAQ is in fact a fully functional corporate PC - albeit an unusual one. Smaller than most mini-towers and irregular in shape, the iPAQ has no bus slots, and its lone external drive bay does not accept desktop drives. Rather, it accepts the hot-swappable drives typically used in Compaq's Armada notebooks. This uniquely designed product is ideal for corporate network environments and for employees who primarily use their PC for mainstream office productivity applications and corporate Internet/intranet access.
General
Processor
Type: Intel Celeron 500 MHz
Cache memory
Type: L2 Cache - Pipeline Burst
Installed Size: 128 KB (installed) / 128 KB (max)
Mainboard
Chipset Type: Intel 810E
Data Bus Speed: 66 MHz
Ram
Installed Size: 128MB / 512 MB (max)
Storage
Hard Drive:4+ GB
Graphics controller
Type: AGP - integrated
Video Memory: Shared Video Memory (UMA)
Installed Size: 4 MB
Supported Display Graphics: VGA (640x480), XGA (1024x768), SVGA (800x600), SXGA (1280x1024)
Video Output Supported: RGB
Audio output
Type: Sound card - PCI - integrated
Signal Processor: Intel 810
Sound Output Mode: Stereo
Max Sample Rate: 48 kHz
Compliant Standards: Sound Blaster 16/Pro, AC '97
Input device
Type: Mouse, keyboard
Networking
Networking: Network adapter - PCI - integrated
Data Link Protocol: Ethernet, Fast Ethernet
Compliant Standards: IEEE 802.3, IEEE 802.3u
Expansion / connectivity
Expansion Bays Total (Free): 1 ( 1 ) x hot-swap - Slim Line
Expansion Slots Total (Free):
1 ( 0 ) x processor
2 ( 1 ) x memory - DIMM 168-PIN
Interfaces:
2 x USB - 4 PIN USB Type A
1 x microphone - input - mini-phone mono 3.5 mm
1 x audio - line-out - mini-phone stereo 3.5 mm
1 x headphones - output - mini-phone stereo 3.5 mm
1 x audio - line-In - mini-phone stereo 3.5 mm
1 x network - Ethernet 10Base-T/100Base-TX - RJ-45
1 x display / video - VGA - 15 pin HD D-Sub (HD-15)
Operating system / software
OS Provided: NONE
NO FLOPPY INSTALLED
NO CD-ROM INSTALLED (SLOT IS OPEN FOR LAPTOP TYPE CD ROM)
Last edited by mechmike on Tue 11 Feb 2014, 19:45, edited 1 time in total.
$10 each, 140 available:
http://cgi.ebay.com/MaxSpeed-Maxterm-51 ... dZViewItem
MaxSpeed Maxterm 5140 thin client, slot for CF card to boot Puppy.
300MHz x86-compatible processor
64MB RAM
Modem
Ethernet
1280X1024 max resolution
Very low power
Add $10 shipping for first, $5 ea. for more.
I haven't ordered one (yet), but no reason it wouldn't work as a Green Puppy PC.
http://cgi.ebay.com/MaxSpeed-Maxterm-51 ... dZViewItem
MaxSpeed Maxterm 5140 thin client, slot for CF card to boot Puppy.
300MHz x86-compatible processor
64MB RAM
Modem
Ethernet
1280X1024 max resolution
Very low power
Add $10 shipping for first, $5 ea. for more.
I haven't ordered one (yet), but no reason it wouldn't work as a Green Puppy PC.
Hi
That Maxterm looks similar to the HP T5700, albeit slower
see my post:-
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=26527
Anyone have a list/know which thin client boxes work with puppy
or if there's a port to puppy of an open source thin client software
Citrix is designed for NT/XP server use & connectivity
Aitch
That Maxterm looks similar to the HP T5700, albeit slower
see my post:-
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=26527
Anyone have a list/know which thin client boxes work with puppy
or if there's a port to puppy of an open source thin client software
Citrix is designed for NT/XP server use & connectivity
Aitch
links
The links that I have in my signature all offer thin-client-able Puplets. Setup for Citrix and other clients are searchable here in the Forum.
http://minipc.org/safepup
http://minipc.org/pup
Any x86 machine with at least 200 mhz processor and 64 MB RAM, and bootable from USB or PXE will work well with Puppy. Your must have at least 400 mhz CPU for video or telephony. (Note that AMD Geode GX466 displays "333 mhz" but runs at over 400 mhz).
http://minipc.org/safepup
http://minipc.org/pup
Any x86 machine with at least 200 mhz processor and 64 MB RAM, and bootable from USB or PXE will work well with Puppy. Your must have at least 400 mhz CPU for video or telephony. (Note that AMD Geode GX466 displays "333 mhz" but runs at over 400 mhz).
Puppy user since Oct 2004. Want FreeOffice? [url=http://puppylinux.info/topic/freeoffice-2012-sfs]Get the sfs (English only)[/url].
*should run*
Hmm, I have not tried a Crusoe yet, although it's x86 compatible, right? Then it should be able to run Puppy.
Puppy user since Oct 2004. Want FreeOffice? [url=http://puppylinux.info/topic/freeoffice-2012-sfs]Get the sfs (English only)[/url].
Well, I ordered one, and it arrived today. Really primitive WinCE 3.0, ugly, ugly, ugly. IE barely works, no Flash player, primitive "Windows Media" player.chicks wrote:$10 each, 140 available:
http://cgi.ebay.com/MaxSpeed-Maxterm-51 ... dZViewItem
MaxSpeed Maxterm 5140 thin client, slot for CF card to boot Puppy.
300MHz x86-compatible processor
64MB RAM
Modem
Ethernet
1280X1024 max resolution
Very low power
Add $10 shipping for first, $5 ea. for more.
I haven't ordered one (yet), but no reason it wouldn't work as a Green Puppy PC.
Decided real quick that it needed to be running Linux. Popped it open (two screws), the MB slides out the back. The RAM looks like standard (but very old) SIMM PC100, should be easy to upgrade to 256MB or so. Looked for a flash chip, surprised to find it on the CF adapter, in a socket on the opposite side of the board - a standard 32MB CF card.
Beginning to think this was going to be easy...
Slid a 256MB Puppy CF from a Maxterm 3500, booted, and..... errors. Doesn't fully boot, don't remember the exact error, but looks bad. Tried several other CF's with Puppy, same error on all.
Tried a 64MB CF with DSL. Finally, we fully boot, but to a black screen. Even when selecting text mode, screen goes black, even though the DSL graphic logo comes up at boot.
Not encouraging, my hard-earned $10 may have just bought a brick...
Will try a tiny, non-GUI distro tomorrow...
Have not figured out how to open the BIOS console, have hit F2, F10, Del, all the "normal" keys at bootup, with no response. Nothing but a blank screen until "loading linux"
BIOS
Yes, the BIOS holds the key, as I have seen thin client BIOS with booting option like "WinCE". So if this is the default, it has to be changed.
Puppy user since Oct 2004. Want FreeOffice? [url=http://puppylinux.info/topic/freeoffice-2012-sfs]Get the sfs (English only)[/url].
I've tried a few distros, without luck. It might be possible to get DSLinterm working, since it's meant for this processor, but I haven't a clue how to convert it for this configuration - its loader looks for the image on a USB drive, whereas this device has the loader and image on an internal CF.
It will usually fully load the image, but then nothing...
It will usually fully load the image, but then nothing...
The 3500 is much newer, has a VIA 1GHz processor, and a "real" fully configurable BIOS.Brandon wrote:WHy won't this unit work while the 3500 does?
These units have a 300MHz Geode GX1 processor, and a minimial BIOS, which I have been unable to get into. The BIOS might be the problem, although syslinux does load the image. I've read a bit about the GX1 having quirky video, so perhaps that's the problem. I just don't know enough low level hacking to get any further. Perhaps an embedded Linux wizard will spring for one of these (just $10 + $10 shipping), and help out.
This might be helpfull: http://www.amd.com/jp-ja/ConnectivitySo ... 63,00.html and http://www.larwe.com/technical/geode_linux.html
"Develop for it? I'll piss on it." -Bill Gates on the NeXTcube
Well, I did get the $10 PC to boot FreeDOS, using the "File Copy" method here: http://www.pcengines.ch/freedos.htm
Whoopie...
Also tried the PCENGINES ALIX BUILD from here: http://www.imedialinux.com/
but it says the CPU doesn't have 1:31, whatever that means. This linux build is supposedly specially build for the Geode LX and GX.
I'll follow up on their forum.
Whoopie...
Also tried the PCENGINES ALIX BUILD from here: http://www.imedialinux.com/
but it says the CPU doesn't have 1:31, whatever that means. This linux build is supposedly specially build for the Geode LX and GX.
I'll follow up on their forum.
Fun Huh?Hi Brandon
Just had a browse of your webpage, but I couldn't resist
"you shouldn't have came" HO HO Smile
Back to the dead cows for you!!
Aitch
chicks:
I figured that it uses laptop IDE for the CF cards.I have a spare 30GB Hard Drive so from another PC I installed Puppy 3.01 and when I tried to boot grub didn't work, I install MS-DOS 6.22 and it booted fine. I also tried Windows 98, which wouldn't boot, I just got a blank screen.
"Develop for it? I'll piss on it." -Bill Gates on the NeXTcube
Well, I did finally get it to run Linux. An ancient, very small distro called MuLinux. Even got X running on it.
MuLinux is based on a very old kernel, and doesn't find the ethernet adapter, but it did find the PS/2 mouse, keyboard and sound card. Even uglier than the stock WinCE, though. Still booting into FreeDOS, then boot MuLinux from a batch file.
Just have to find a more modern distro that will run on this thing, one that looks a lot more like Puppy...
MuLinux is based on a very old kernel, and doesn't find the ethernet adapter, but it did find the PS/2 mouse, keyboard and sound card. Even uglier than the stock WinCE, though. Still booting into FreeDOS, then boot MuLinux from a batch file.
Just have to find a more modern distro that will run on this thing, one that looks a lot more like Puppy...