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klhrevolutionist


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PostPosted: Sat 23 Jul 2005, 22:27    Post_subject:  XPDE  

it looks like XPDE should work straight out of the box
but when trying to startup, it fails and goes back to xterm
any suggestions or ideas why would be helpful

why another desktop choice!!!!
choice,choice

please and thank you

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klhrevolutionist


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PostPosted: Sat 23 Jul 2005, 23:04    Post_subject: my reply  

it works straight out of the box baby!!!
and looks a lot cleaner than fvwm95
only problem now is to make programs work, example, I went use mozilla, nothing happened???
I had to boot from puppy and change out the .xinitrc file so that I can boot back into icewm but if anybody is interested in helping me out I would appreciate it
this is the first time I have seen this forum so dead???

when installing it creates /opt
so I don't know if that has anything to do with the programs not starting up???
anyway anybody interested in helping puppians having a choice, try giving input!!!

when checking xpde forum it seems a lot of people are having this problem,
they seem to be working on the window manager

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GuestToo
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PostPosted: Sun 24 Jul 2005, 00:39    Post_subject:  

i've looked at it, briefly
kinda bloated at 5 megs (my icewm package is about 240 k)

the error messages are in /tmp/xerrs.txt
type:
more /tmp/xerrs.txt
or:
mp /tmp/xerrs.txt
(ctrl+A for a menu)
or:
cp /tmp/xerrs.txt .
(don't forget the dot at the end, to copy the file to /root, then you can startx fvwm95 and read the file in /root)
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alten

Joined: 21 Jul 2005
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Location: Dunedin, New Zealand

PostPosted: Mon 25 Jul 2005, 02:35    Post_subject:  

FWIW, I tend to agree. iceWm can do a great XP look (I use silverXP myself), and has lotsa customising available under the hood. I like it because you can drive just about everything from the keyboard, too.
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klhrevolutionist


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PostPosted: Wed 27 Jul 2005, 16:04    Post_subject: .xinitrc  

I need a little help with the .xinitrc file
xpde wants me to replace it but I would rather just add xpde to the current one
so what I'm asking for is where to put these lines at in the .xinitrc

export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/xpde/bin
/opt/xpde/bin/XPde full &
/opt/xpde/bin/XPwm


and also how would I put that in the .icewm menu
???
if anybody responds I will be very grateful
any other tips and tricks would be helpful

well I did it my way, and I'm writing from inside xpde puppy right now
but I still have to configure the menu and some of the default desktop icons
but it looks nice a little more pro like
I will report back when I get the default icons and menu going
over and out

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Bruce B


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PostPosted: Wed 27 Jul 2005, 17:54    Post_subject:  

I'll check it out and see how it works.

What version did you install?

5.0
5.1 beta
??
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GuestToo
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PostPosted: Wed 27 Jul 2005, 19:51    Post_subject:  

you could write a wrapper script to start xpde

maybe call it xpde-session and put it in my-applications/bin

#!/bin/sh
export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/xpde/bin:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH
/opt/xpde/bin/XPde full &
/opt/xpde/bin/XPwm

then, to run xpde, you can shut down X and type
startx xpde-session

to run fvwm95 again, you would shut down X and type:
startx fvwm95
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klhrevolutionist


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PostPosted: Wed 27 Jul 2005, 21:01    Post_subject: hmm  

a session I'm a noob not sure how to do all that stuff
but I will try anyway,
this would be another option
a possible xpde icewm theme
a possible xpde dotpup
this seems to have gotten interest in the dog pound!!!


what I did was copied the xinitrcDefault file that came with xpde
I coied and pasted it at the bottom of .xinitrc file of puppy
and all my icons stay on the xpde desk, can't drag "n" drop yet
but this way I can access everything, all the desktop icons work except trash
I think?
but it is the start menu button I need to edit it with puppy's menu script
I think that might work, a lot of of other things, but who knows?

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Bruce B


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PostPosted: Wed 27 Jul 2005, 22:38    Post_subject:  

Okay, here a way that seems most flexible to me, so a person can change
window managers easily. If you were always going to use xpde you would
do it differently.

Basic setup instructions for version 4.01 (old) with full libs

    run ./install.sh from the extracted tar.gz directory

    run ./setup.sh from the extracted tar.gz directory


On an option 1 install /opt doesn't get saved, so do like this:

    copy all files and directories from /opt/xpde to /root/xpde

    edit /etc/rc.d/rc.local and add this line: ln -sf /root/xpde /opt


edit /etc/profile

    append LD_LIBRARY_PATH with :/opt/xpde/bin

    it might be easier to comment out exec xwin in order boot to the prompt


make a script file like this:

Code:
#!/bin/sh
/opt/xpde/bin/XPde full &
echo /opt/xpde/bin/XPwm>/etc/windowmanager
startx


To run xpde type the name of your script file, to restart it, in the same session you can just type startx.

To run another windowmanager type: startx icewm (or the name of the window manager)

Screen Shots of version 5.x

Note: It would take some work to make the menu system correspond with Puppy's apps and utilities.
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klhrevolutionist


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PostPosted: Wed 27 Jul 2005, 23:59    Post_subject: on the contrary  

I found that if you add
export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/xpde/bin
/opt/xpde/bin/XPde full &
/opt/xpde/bin/XPwm
to the bottom of .xinitrc
assuming you installed as the install file tells
you have a reall working wm and desk
some apps work in the taskbar but to edit it to puppy style
will take work
anyhoo, so startx xpde after all is followed as I have done
and you still keep your icons where you have placed them in puppy
and you get there defaults which is what I would like to do
edit the start menu and erase the default icons
and have drag 'n' drop desktop
other than that it is really nice!!!
so 3 minor probs


I had to reply to Bruce B. post below and he is mistaken if you edit the .xinitrc file it is permanent unless you change it
so with that you are able to boot into xpde every boot

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Bancobusto


Joined: 13 Jun 2005
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Location: Vancouver Island

PostPosted: Thu 28 Jul 2005, 00:09    Post_subject:  

Good work! Keep it up!

XPDE looks pretty kool..... I prefer fluxbox, but i can still appreciate the beauty of other WM's.... Does it show with a pretty hue? it looks good?

If you get it figured out, i'lll take a close look at this thread and try to duplicate.....



I know a lot of people who would be more accepting of TUX if he looked like XPDE... I'm not one of them.. but that's my .10$ worth...



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Bruce B


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PostPosted: Thu 28 Jul 2005, 00:45    Post_subject: Re: on the contrary  

klhrevolutionist wrote:
I found that if you add
export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/xpde/bin
/opt/xpde/bin/XPde full &
/opt/xpde/bin/XPwm
to the bottom of .xinitrc


Yes there are many ways. I approached it differently, mainly because of the
/opt/xpde/bin/XPde full & line.

It looks to me that XPde will be running in the background regardless of which window manager one uses.

Also, you would be running XPwm regardless, I don't know the effect this has when you try to boot to another window manager?

With the approach I took .xinitrc doesn't change, so the only time xpde process run is when you actually run xpde.
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Bruce B


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PostPosted: Thu 28 Jul 2005, 02:08    Post_subject: Re: on the contrary  

klhrevolutionist wrote:
I had to reply to Bruce B. post below and he is mistaken if you edit the .xinitrc file it is permanent unless you change it
so with that you are able to boot into xpde every boot


Respectfully, if you change .xinitrc, the change is permanent unless you or some process changes it.

With the mistaken procedure I outlined, one is able to boot any window manager. Anyway, the procedure I outlined was not a mistake - it was very intentional.
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klhrevolutionist


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PostPosted: Thu 28 Jul 2005, 21:05    Post_subject: well  

I will discontinue my work on this as it seems the xpde has no support on their forums and lacks any documentation, althought this is suitable enough
It will work, but with a lot of aggravation, so I'll be trying something else out:
Another thing I posted but not sure if it was noticed as I screwed up my dotpup but guest too fixed that for me
Anyway the control panel feature this would be great for newbies
and it does not require much tinkering if anybody is interested in this take a look at version 2.4 on the download page as the newer version is python

http://www.phrozensmoke.com/projects/icewmcp/
great for setting up other features barry missed

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