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1.0.4: Still no /dev/hd* above d. Same as 1.0.3.
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JonathanBrickman0000

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PostPosted: Sun 31 Jul 2005, 17:24    Post_subject:  1.0.4: Still no /dev/hd* above d. Same as 1.0.3.  

It's the same problem as 1.0.3. Here's the output of 'ls /dev/hd*':
Quote:
/dev/hda /dev/hda1 /dev/hda10 /dev/hda11
/dev/hda12 /dev/hda13 /dev/hda14 /dev/hda15
/dev/hda16 /dev/hda2 /dev/hda3 /dev/hda4
/dev/hda5 /dev/hda6 /dev/hda7 /dev/hda8 /dev/hda9
/dev/hdb /dev/hdb1 /dev/hdb2 /dev/hdb3 /dev/hdb4
/dev/hdb5 /dev/hdb6 /dev/hdb7 /dev/hdb8 /dev/hdb9
/dev/hdc /dev/hdc1 /dev/hdc2 /dev/hdc3 /dev/hdc4
/dev/hdc5 /dev/hdc6 /dev/hdc7 /dev/hdc8 /dev/hdc9
/dev/hdd /dev/hdd1 /dev/hdd2 /dev/hdd3 /dev/hdd4
/dev/hdd5 /dev/hdd6 /dev/hdd7 /dev/hdd8 /dev/hdd9

and here is the output of 'dmesg':
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4> BIOS-e820: 00000000ffff0000 - 0000000100000000 (reserved)
767MB LOWMEM available.
On node 0 totalpages: 196592
zone(0): 4096 pages.
zone(1): 192496 pages.
zone(2): 0 pages.
ACPI: RSDP (v000 VIA694 ) @ 0x000f70d0
ACPI: RSDT (v001 VIA694 AWRDACPI 0x42302e31 AWRD 0x00000000) @ 0x2fff3000
ACPI: FADT (v001 VIA694 AWRDACPI 0x42302e31 AWRD 0x00000000) @ 0x2fff3040
ACPI: DSDT (v001 VIA694 AWRDACPI 0x00001000 MSFT 0x0100000c) @ 0x00000000
Kernel command line: root=/dev/ram0 initrd=image.gz PFILE=pup001-none-262144 BOOT_IMAGE=vmlinuz
Initializing CPU#0
Detected 854.727 MHz processor.
Console: colour VGA+ 80x25
Calibrating delay loop... 1703.93 BogoMIPS
Memory: 768384k/786368k available (1441k kernel code, 17596k reserved, 541k data, 132k init, 0k highmem)
Dentry cache hash table entries: 131072 (order: 8, 1048576 bytes)
Inode cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 7, 524288 bytes)
Mount cache hash table entries: 512 (order: 0, 4096 bytes)
Buffer cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 6, 262144 bytes)
Page-cache hash table entries: 262144 (order: 8, 1048576 bytes)
CPU: L1 I Cache: 64K (64 bytes/line), D cache 64K (64 bytes/line)
CPU: L2 Cache: 64K (64 bytes/line)
Intel machine check architecture supported.
Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#0.
CPU: After generic, caps: 0183f9ff c1c7f9ff 00000000 00000000
CPU: Common caps: 0183f9ff c1c7f9ff 00000000 00000000
CPU: AMD Duron(tm) processor stepping 01
Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done.
Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK.
ACPI: IRQ9 SCI: Level Trigger.
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
mtrr: v1.40 (20010327) Richard Gooch (rgooch@atnf.csiro.au)
mtrr: detected mtrr type: Intel
ACPI: Subsystem revision 20040326
PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfb460, last bus=1
PCI: Using configuration type 1
ACPI: Interpreter enabled
ACPI: Using PIC for interrupt routing
ACPI: System [ACPI] (supports S0 S3 S4 S5)
ACPI: PCI Root Bridge [PCI0] (00:00)
PCI: Probing PCI hardware (bus 00)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0._PRT]
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKA] (IRQs 1 3 4 5 6 7 10 *11 12 14 15)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB] (IRQs 1 3 4 *5 6 7 10 11 12 14 15)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKC] (IRQs 1 *3 4 5 6 7 10 11 12 14 15)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKD] (IRQs 1 3 4 5 6 7 *10 11 12 14 15)
PCI: Probing PCI hardware
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB] enabled at IRQ 5
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKC] enabled at IRQ 3
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKD] enabled at IRQ 10
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKA] enabled at IRQ 11
PCI: Using ACPI for IRQ routing
isapnp: Scanning for PnP cards...
isapnp: No Plug & Play device found
Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.4
Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
Initializing RT netlink socket
apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x07 (Driver version 1.16)
apm: overridden by ACPI.
Starting kswapd
Journalled Block Device driver loaded
Squashfs 2.1-r2 (released 2004/12/15) (C) 2002-2004 Phillip Lougher
pty: 2048 Unix98 ptys configured
Serial driver version 5.05c (2001-07-08) with MANY_PORTS MULTIPORT SHARE_IRQ SERIAL_PCI ISAPNP enabled
Real Time Clock Driver v1.10f
floppy0: no floppy controllers found
RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 12288K size 1024 blocksize
loop: loaded (max 8 devices)
Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 7.00beta4-2.4
ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx
SiI680: IDE controller at PCI slot 00:0d.0
SiI680: chipset revision 2
SiI680: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
SiI680: BASE CLOCK == 133
ide0: MMIO-DMA , BIOS settings: hda:pio, hdb:pio
ide1: MMIO-DMA , BIOS settings: hdc:pio, hdd:pio
VP_IDE: IDE controller at PCI slot 00:11.1
VP_IDE: chipset revision 6
VP_IDE: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx
VP_IDE: VIA vt8233 (rev 00) IDE UDMA100 controller on pci00:11.1
ide2: BM-DMA at 0xe000-0xe007, BIOS settings: hde:DMA, hdf:pio
ide3: BM-DMA at 0xe008-0xe00f, BIOS settings: hdg:DMA, hdh:pio
hda: LITE-ON LTR-12101B, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
hdc: Maxtor 6Y080L0, ATA DISK drive
blk: queue c034b994, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask 0xffffffff)
hde: ST340014A, ATA DISK drive
blk: queue c034bde8, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask 0xffffffff)
hdg: DVD-RW IDE1008, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
ide0 at 0xf0820080-0xf0820087,0xf082008a on irq 10
ide1 at 0xf08200c0-0xf08200c7,0xf08200ca on irq 10
ide2 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
ide3 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
hdc: attached ide-disk driver.
hdc: host protected area => 1
hdc: 160086528 sectors (81964 MB) w/2048KiB Cache, CHS=9964/255/63, UDMA(133)
hde: attached ide-disk driver.
hde: host protected area => 1
hde: 78165360 sectors (40021 MB) w/2048KiB Cache, CHS=4865/255/63, UDMA(100)
Partition check:
hdc: hdc1 hdc2
hde: hde1 hde2
ide: late registration of driver.
md: md driver 0.90.0 MAX_MD_DEVS=256, MD_SB_DISKS=27
md: Autodetecting RAID arrays.
md: autorun ...
md: ... autorun DONE.
Initializing Cryptographic API
NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0
IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP, IGMP
IP: routing cache hash table of 8192 buckets, 64Kbytes
TCP: Hash tables configured (established 262144 bind 65536)
NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0/SMP for Linux NET4.0.
RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0
Freeing initrd memory: 6681k freed
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
Freeing unused kernel memory: 132k freed
SCSI subsystem driver Revision: 1.00
usb.c: registered new driver usbdevfs
usb.c: registered new driver hub
usb-uhci.c: $Revision: 1.275 $ time 10:58:54 Jun 17 2005
usb-uhci.c: High bandwidth mode enabled
usb-uhci.c: USB UHCI at I/O 0xe400, IRQ 10
usb-uhci.c: Detected 2 ports
usb.c: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1
hub.c: USB hub found
hub.c: 2 ports detected
usb-uhci.c: USB UHCI at I/O 0xe800, IRQ 10
usb-uhci.c: Detected 2 ports
usb.c: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 2
hub.c: USB hub found
hub.c: 2 ports detected
usb-uhci.c: USB UHCI at I/O 0xec00, IRQ 10
usb-uhci.c: Detected 2 ports
usb.c: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 3
hub.c: USB hub found
hub.c: 2 ports detected
usb-uhci.c: v1.275:USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver
Creative EMU10K1 PCI Audio Driver, version 0.20, 10:56:53 Jun 17 2005
8139too Fast Ethernet driver 0.9.26
eth0: RealTek RTL8139 at 0xf085c000, 00:30:bd:03:a6:e7, IRQ 5
eth0: Identified 8139 chip type 'RTL-8139C'
hda: attached ide-cdrom driver.
hda: ATAPI 32X CD-ROM CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache, DMA
Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.12
hdg: attached ide-cdrom driver.
hdg: ATAPI 32X DVD-ROM DVD-R CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache
hub.c: new USB device 00:11.2-2, assigned address 2
cdrom: open failed.
usb.c: USB device 2 (vend/prod 0x4a7/0x229) is not claimed by any active driver.
NTFS driver 2.1.6b [Flags: R/W MODULE].
hub.c: new USB device 00:11.4-1, assigned address 2
usb.c: USB device 2 (vend/prod 0x46d/0xc00c) is not claimed by any active driver.
hub.c: new USB device 00:11.4-2, assigned address 3
usb.c: USB device 3 (vend/prod 0x4a9/0x108a) is not claimed by any active driver.
Uniform CD-ROM driver unloaded
hda: attached ide-cdrom driver.
hda: ATAPI 32X CD-ROM CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache, DMA
Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.12
hdg: attached ide-cdrom driver.
hdg: ATAPI 32X DVD-ROM DVD-R CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache
cdrom: open failed.
Uniform CD-ROM driver unloaded
hda: attached ide-cdrom driver.
hda: ATAPI 32X CD-ROM CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache, DMA
Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.12
hdg: attached ide-cdrom driver.
hdg: ATAPI 32X DVD-ROM DVD-R CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache
parport0: PC-style at 0x378 (0x778) [PCSPP,TRISTATE,EPP]
parport0: irq 7 detected
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PostPosted: Sun 31 Jul 2005, 17:46    Post_subject: Some system  

It's some system you have there Smile

Let me try rewording your question for common guys (like me): the assumed hard drives in Puppy are no more than four (a, b, c, d), which happen to be the ones available in most motherboards (two IDE slots x two drives, master and slave).

Many users (of client services) would be comfortable with that, I suppose...

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PostPosted: Sun 31 Jul 2005, 18:08    Post_subject: Yep.  

I'm certain you're right. The reason why it's a problem is because, apparently, the Linux IDE drive mapping maps motherboard IDE last, instead of first, which means Puppy doesn't boot to X (or see motherboard hard drives) without lots of extra TLC if the machine has both motherboard and PCI IDE. And I would dearly love to be able to use Puppy to diagnose everything I work on!!!
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PostPosted: Sun 31 Jul 2005, 20:25    Post_subject:  

I've got a vague memory that there's a configure option for the kernel to handle more than hd a-d.
So, maybe you'll have to experiement with a kernel recompile!
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PostPosted: Sun 31 Jul 2005, 22:49    Post_subject: Kernel recompile?  

Now that is interesting. One question: When I boot directly off the Puppy CD, and it doesn't find /usr and therefore does not load X, am I using the same kernel as I am using when it does find /usr?

I ask this because when I give it a /usr it can find (on a VFAT partition as /dev/hdc2), it finds all my IDE devices, but when I don't do this, it doesn't. So if I were using two different kernels, that would be a straightforward cause...but if not, not.
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PostPosted: Mon 01 Aug 2005, 06:20    Post_subject:  

Quote:
SiI680: IDE controller at PCI slot 00:0d.0
SiI680: chipset revision 2
SiI680: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
SiI680: BASE CLOCK == 133
ide0: MMIO-DMA , BIOS settings: hda:pio, hdb:pio
ide1: MMIO-DMA , BIOS settings: hdc:pio, hdd:pio


A sata/ide controller card on this system, with an ide or sata drive(s} connected to it?

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PostPosted: Mon 01 Aug 2005, 07:04    Post_subject:  

Hi JonathanBrickman0000,

Now that you've got 1.0.4 you'll have MUT, start -> Utilities -> MUT
Start up MUT, and see if it can see your hde drive.
MUT is supposed to create new dev nodes for you when Puppy hasn't set them up already for you.
If it does set them up, and you've got a hard disk install of Puppy, the nodes will hang around when you next boot.
Do you need hde for boot purposes?

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JonathanBrickman0000

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PostPosted: Mon 01 Aug 2005, 08:27    Post_subject: Now we're getting somewhere :)  

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A sata/ide controller card on this system, with an ide or sata drive(s} connected to it?
Yep. IDE, with one drive, with two partitions on the drive.
Quote:
Now that you've got 1.0.4 you'll have MUT, start -> Utilities -> MUT
Start up MUT, and see if it can see your hde drive.
There is no way for me to do Start->Utilities->MUT, because that requires X, which requires /usr to be working; and without /hde and /hdf and /hdg, the system won't see my CD-ROMs, and I won't have a /usr without manually setting up /usr on hard drive partition /hdc2.
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Do you need hde for boot purposes?
Yes, that is the whole point. I need /hde, /hdf, and /hdg. I doubt these need to be enabled by default, but if the boot sequence doesn't find /usr, it should try to set them up. I can't boot from anything attached to the PCI/IDE, which means /hda is not bootable.
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