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#46 Post by davidA »

I just wanted to mention that I have been running 'Airmail' on top of Wine for some years. It works well with some Linux versions, although I have had problems when trying to install on a few (vanilla Debian included)

Airmail runs well on Ubuntu 7.1 and (since switching to Puppy) am pleased to say that it runs fine on 'Dingo' (over VHF/UHF packet) and over a regular telnet connection (I have not tested on HF as I don't have a Pactor TNC)

http://www.siriuscyber.net/ham/

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#47 Post by edoc »

I stumbled upon CQRLOG for Linux and it is the most robust free Ham logging and rig control and dx-spotting, etc I have found!

I also acquired the G4ZLP USB-to-mic-port CAT interface for my Yaesu FT-857D (to keep the rear CAT port open for future tuner and amp control.

PROBLEM: I cannot get CQRLOG via Puppy to talk to the device.

Puppy "sees" it via USBview and it is not red.

I have tried /dev/ttyUSB1 and /dev/usb/ttyUSB1 and neither work.

I checked and both the rig and CQRLOG are set for 9600 baud, not sure if I need to change any other settings.

WDYT?
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#48 Post by edoc »

Someone from the CQRLOG list posted this in response to my question (similar to the one I posted here). If the FTDI chipset supported by Puppy? It is supposed to be in the "standard" kernel. I don't recall how to request the data he sent from his (see below) ...
It depends on the chipset used in the interface. Therte are still some
chipsets with proprietary parameters and the manufacturer ignores the
linux! Anyway, such chipsets should be avoided!

It is quite tricky to investigate that G4ZLP uses FTDI chipset for his
interfaces. These FTDI are one of the best and are widely supported in
Linux, however this support must be enabled in the kernel (assumed that
you compile your own kernel - it is a must, unfortunately it is hardly
possible to dig into every distribution and study how they built their
kernel!).

Your kernel can be the culprit if it is built without USB port drivers
(FTDI).

Here is the part of my kernel .config which shows that the FTDI support
is built as module (so not directly into kernel).

#
# USB port drivers
#
CONFIG_USB_USS720=m
CONFIG_USB_SERIAL=m
CONFIG_USB_EZUSB=y
CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_GENERIC=y
CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_AIRCABLE=m
CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_AIRPRIME=m
CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_ARK3116=m
CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_BELKIN=m
CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_CH341=m
CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_WHITEHEAT=m
CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_DIGI_ACCELEPORT=m
CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_CP2101=m
CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_CYPRESS_M8=m
CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_EMPEG=m
CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_FTDI_SIO=m
CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_FUNSOFT=m
CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_VISOR=m
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#49 Post by edoc »

Does this mean that the FTDI drivers (scroll down)are loaded?

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# lsmod                                    
Module                  Size  Used by
usb_storage            83264  0 
pwc                    96256  0 
compat_ioctl32          1408  1 pwc
gspca                 683344  0 
videodev               27904  2 pwc,gspca
v4l2_common            16896  2 pwc,videodev
v4l1_compat            14596  1 videodev
wlan_wep                6784  1 
evdev                  10240  0 
parport_pc             31716  1 
lp                     12616  0 
parport                35528  2 parport_pc,lp
snd_mixer_oss          16896  0 
usbhid                 24928  0 
usblp                  14080  0 
ftdi_sio               34184  0 
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#50 Post by Aitch »

Hi doc

Useful bash commands

lsmod = gives installed hardware

dmesg = gives clues about failed module loads

modprobe > device = check loaded module, if not autoloaded

rmmod > device = removes badly loaded modules

could be usb serial is not loading

try modprobe ohci-hcd,

&

modprobe usbserial

there may also be specific interupts used, so you could try booting with different params, see pci

http://www.puppylinux.org/wiki/archives ... /bootparms


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#51 Post by edoc »

Thanks for the assist!

This is what happens when I send those commands! :-)

# modprobe ohci-hcd

# modprobe usbserial

#
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#52 Post by edoc »

Do these settings in the app CQRLOG sound correct?

/dev/usb/ttyUSB1

Serial speed: 9600
Stop Bits: 1
Data Bits: 8
Handshake: None
Parity: None
DTR: Unchecked
RTS: Unchecked
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#53 Post by Aitch »

Hi doc

Don't know if you have this

http://www.ham-radio.ch/doc/Ham%20Radio%20Deluxe.pdf

or if this link is any use

http://kd0afl.freehostia.com/2008/04/28 ... -on-linux/

here is homepage

http://cqrlog.sourceforge.net/

maybe try the forum there, or pm the devs

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#54 Post by edoc »

I have posted my questions also to the CQRLOG list.

The USB port works for a mouse, external HDD, USB camera, USB memory stick, etc. but here it is being asked to function as a communications port via the FTDI chip.

I think that my previously posted data indicates that Puppy 3.01 includes the FTDI driver(s) so it is a puzzlement as to why everything is not talking to everything else!

I will contact the manufacturer of the G4ZLP interface and see what they have to say.
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#55 Post by edoc »

The vendor of the interface which uses a FTDI chipset wrote:
Comport set to ? Must be set to virtual comport and virtual comport MUST be present BEFORE starting your software.
/dev//usbttyusb1 ?????????????????? Sounds like unix.
Whatever OS, your OS will have been provided with a virtual comport and it's
the comport that should be used.
Does this give a clue at all as to what he is looking for?

I am guessing that /dev/usb/ttyUSB1 is not what he needs.

I tried searching on "puppy linux virtual com port" and "puppy linux usb virtual com port" and got nowhere.
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#56 Post by Aitch »

looks like you still have some testing to do!

I found this info, but I'm not sure how you'll use it

http://docs.tibbo.com/soism/index.html?vspdl.htm

http://www.tibbo.com/vspdl.php

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COM_port_redirector

3rd page in gives virtual, but read 1 & 2 to understand terminology

http://www.linux.com/base/ldp/howto/Serial-HOWTO-9.html

maybe one of these would work?

http://www.g4zlp.co.uk/unified/usb2rs232.shtml

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#57 Post by edoc »

I anticipate that if "virtual com ports" exist in Puppy there is a chart of equivalences between /dev/usr/ttyUSB1 and a specific virtual com port.

Any idea where that Puppy-specific standard chart might be?
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#58 Post by Aitch »

nah

only thing springs to mind is windoze in a virtual machine, qemu or similar

anyone else?

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#59 Post by edoc »

BUMP!

I am now trying the same device with Puppy 4.00/Dingo.

USBView flags it as RED unlike 3.01 which did not.

I have the same questions and problems - how do I get this to work since according to the Linux kernel docs this device is supposed to be supported.

Help?
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#60 Post by Aitch »

Hi There Doc

More suggestions, though this is for a new high speed RS232 cable I spotted, which is advertised as; cross platform, 230kb/s, & 'seen as normal comport'

I think it uses the pl2303 chipset rather than ch341 normally used on these converters, & I believe Puppy4 still has issues

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=27992

maybe worth research/borrowing/enquiring of them if it'll work with your rig?

http://www.keyspan.com/products/usa19hs/homepage.spml

I wonder if there is some gender problem/interrupt problem here, since other devices work on that port

have you been here?

http://www.w1hkj.com/index.htm

& here

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/linuxham/

& of course

http://cqoogle.com/search/index.php

Have you considered adding an RS232 board to the PC instead of trying to get this usb problem sorted? - might be quicker/cheaper?

Good luck

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#61 Post by edoc »

This suggestion from Muggins solved the red-flag problem:
muggins wrote:Is the device working properly? If it is, you can just open, (in text editor), /etc/rc.d/rc.local, and add a line:

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modprobe ftdi_sio
Aitch wrote:More suggestions, though this is for a new high speed RS232 cable I spotted, which is advertised as; cross platform, 230kb/s, & 'seen as normal comport'
I think it uses the pl2303 chipset rather than ch341 normally used on these converters, & I believe Puppy4 still has issues
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=27992
Perhaps it is the non-standard /dev/usb/ttyUSB0 that is confusing my cqrlog app?

How does one use mknod (sp?) to redirect /dev/usb/ttyUSB0 to /dev/ttyUSB0?
I would really rather not add yet another variable. Right now I amp going from my solitary USB 1.1 port to the FTDI-based device then to my radio. Keeping it that simple I need to figure out why the cqrlog app does not recognize the device since USBview now does.

(NOTE: I'd rather use a pcmcia-to-USB2.0 adapter or a USB-to-4portUSB adapter but will hold off on those to keep things simple.)
Aitch wrote:I wonder if there is some gender problem/interrupt problem here, since other devices work on that port.
A gender-confused device? Better be careful how you phrase that! :roll: In several formerly free countries free speech is no longer free and you could be fined or jailed if misunderstood! :-/
Yes, thanks.
Aitch wrote:& of course http://cqoogle.com/search/index.php
I prefer clusty.com but yes, I have searched and E-mailed the Hamlib and cqrlog and Toughbook lists and forums and tried their suggestions.

It is my impression that this is either a Puppy or Panasonic Toughbook CF-28 specific problem as I am suffering a variety of USB problems. Each device I want to use requires a little tinkering.

Thanks for the suggestions - it may well be that I will have to wait for the tweaks to USB in 4.1
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#62 Post by Aitch »

it may well be that I will have to wait for the tweaks to USB in 4.1
mmm, I can't help but feel that we've been told porkies about usb, and have come to expect it to do what was claimed, with a vast array of different devices in the same socket - and I'm not convinced puppy any version will make the difference
I've succeeded in destroying a couple of pendrives because I forgot to unmount powered drives, and have a usb2 4port hub which still sees one of my pendrives with u3 cr*p on it, as connected to a usb1.1 interface, no matter what I do to get it to go, despite everything else seeing it as v2

I'm still waiting to see the results of supplying BarryK with scsi kit to see if I can get my scsi drives bootable, as at the moment I'm running an ide microdrive in a pcmcia adapter in a desktop, with a faulty ide chipset - its a pain trying to get CD and booting a non-existant ide drive together, using pcmcia adapter, since the usb to flash [+microdrive] doesn't boot

Apparently usb is based on scsi protocols, but although it took a while to learn its idiosyncrasies, its rock solid once its running and appears faster than even sata to me, though people say sata is faster, my P3/667mhz with 15k rpm scsi, loads/copies faster than my friends P4/2.8ghz with sata, using videofiles for reference

I've now got some old scsi 250mb zip & 2gb jaz drives to play with too, though I'm not sure what puppy will make of it, especially as I have pcmcia, parallel port & usb adapters to try to see if I can boot them, and otropogo has been struggling with his for a month or more

if you hear any screams...........
now, if BarryK gets dual processor going, I'll definitely upgrade, as a rather large redundant server can come into use, with 840gb of fast scsi drives
sigh..........

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#63 Post by lug »

I have a question on EMCpup. Does it do packet? I am involved with a small group that is assembling a portable packet station. We have an Asus eee computer that currently has Windows XP on it and haven't had much luck with getting a packet radio program to run on it. The only reason we got the eee with the preloaded XP was because until Target opened it stores here in AK the only way to get the Asus was mail order and this computer was available on Craigslist. So we are not married to XP and would like to try out Linux as an operating system.
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#65 Post by ttuuxxx »

Hi Guys I had a request about an error with compiling hamlibs, So I compiled it on 2.14X-v8, next I inquired about which application was the libs for, The app was called Grig, So I figured might as well compile that also, but when I did, there was an error, The error is a naming convention change that gtk did after 2.12, So I went on hunt and found a patch, and then I patched the sources, below Is the compiled program, also I made a prepackage patched sources, so that that won't be a issue in the future either :) basically its updated for future compiling.
Like I said you'll need also hamlibs,

http://www.puppylinux.asia/tpp/ttuuxxx/ ... 9-i386.pet <--- Hamlibs
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http://groundstation.sourceforge.net/grig/index.php <--- Homepage
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