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Puppy 2.15CE Look and Feel: Taking it to the next level...
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WhoDo


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PostPosted: Wed 07 Mar 2007, 23:03    Post subject:  

jason.b.c wrote:
In that picture in the first post that WhoDo posted - The icons look great..! , I mean awesome.! , But when i downloaded and extracted them - And tried to use them to replace some of my current icons - they look absolutely Horrible..!

Not negative, just disappointed I'd say. Here are a couple of screenshots I put together to show how the icons will look in their real life application. I know exactly what you're talking about, and I too was disappointed in some of the icons.





The icons here are 48x48, so they're not really small. Screen resolution is 1024x768 - not really very high - and the two backgrounds are in Beta1 by default.

Any other comments?
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PostPosted: Wed 07 Mar 2007, 23:44    Post subject:  

Use the other gnumeric icon (the one without the blue thing in the grid) for the calender, it fits the part more. Also, make sure you load up Gimp and edit out the "PCLinux" bits from the "Computer" and "Console" icons.

Otherwise, it looks great. Even better than the fast job I did a couple minutes ago when trying them out.

BTW, is that just a personal WhoDo setting where you have the window-decorations enabled on Xmms? As in the release version won't have it enabled? I know the beta didn't.

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PostPosted: Thu 08 Mar 2007, 00:20    Post subject:  

Pizzasgood wrote:
BTW, is that just a personal WhoDo setting where you have the window-decorations enabled on Xmms? As in the release version won't have it enabled? I know the beta didn't.

On a different machine to the one where I prepared the beta. This machine is shared with someone else, and I guess he fiddles with settings or something. Frankly, I just didn't notice.

Thanks for the heads up anyway, mate.

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PostPosted: Thu 08 Mar 2007, 05:27    Post subject:  

Very very impressive look to those screenshots WhoDo! Kudos for putting them together.

If going with the white icons, please read this post re: firefox / thunderbird licensing and the logo usage.

What if we took the firefox source and compiled our own build called "puppy browser" and kept the version numbers in sync with the official firefox binary releases, just like ice weasel? We could also do the same with Thunderbird or Pupmail or whatever we wanted to call it...

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PostPosted: Thu 08 Mar 2007, 08:49    Post subject: Woof woof
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These icons represent something central to the Puppy ideology. That is quite subtle. They have cut out the 'eye candy' of colour. Yet they are still eye candy.

Most of the existing icons are a bit from here a bit from there. These are a set.

A black white and grey theme is possible. Tweaking a design is easy for end users and is likely the first thing to try after or whilst testing programs. As far as I am concerned PCLinuxOS is the best looking Linux and as these came from there I feel confident.

I would suggest far greater priorities (after an alpha and beta release) are which WM and browser are being used? The windows or Firefox icons are easy to resolve once we have a stable feature set.

It is up to Warren based on advisement and prevailing preferences and his best judgement to decide on the direction and Vizion Viz is implementing Smile

Is that possible?

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PostPosted: Thu 08 Mar 2007, 20:37    Post subject: Another desktop vision...
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Hi gang,

Here is another look at the Puppy 2.15CE default desktop after some suggestions from Pizzasgood. Any comments?

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PostPosted: Thu 08 Mar 2007, 20:49    Post subject:  

I have a question , Where did you get that XMMS skin , It looks cool...
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PostPosted: Thu 08 Mar 2007, 21:05    Post subject:  

jason.b.c wrote:
I have a question , Where did you get that XMMS skin , It looks cool...


I uploaded here for similar enquirers when the project first got underway.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=15282&start=4
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PostPosted: Thu 08 Mar 2007, 21:24    Post subject:  

Nice. I do think the whole lot looks better with green or blue though, due to the GTK theme. Even like that it's pretty good.

EDIT: Wait, was that screenshot green to begin with? I could have sworn it was red when I made this post. Meh, whatever. Like I said, the green looks better Smile

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PostPosted: Fri 09 Mar 2007, 04:56    Post subject:  

Looking really nice....

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PostPosted: Fri 09 Mar 2007, 05:57    Post subject:  

Puppy Viz
Green and tan

Sounds just about right . . .
What are your plans for the icon set (which I notice you are modifying) Warren?

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PostPosted: Fri 09 Mar 2007, 06:45    Post subject:  

Lobster wrote:
What are your plans for the icon set (which I notice you are modifying) Warren?

Still under consideration. I have downloaded a complimentary set to Gryphen's Glass-icons, and I'll see what I can make out of the two without destroying the consistency of the set.

Yes, at Pizzasgood's urging I have replaced PCLinuxOS logos with Puppy logos in the appropriate icons. I'm also trying to bring them out further by lifting their brightness a notch or two.

When I have something I am truly happy with, I'll post another screenshot. I think we should go with the unique set, IF they can be made to look a tad better and that's an issue of background choice as well as icon tweaking.

Clear as mud, eh Lob?
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PostPosted: Fri 09 Mar 2007, 20:05    Post subject:  

Lobster wrote:
What are your plans for the icon set (which I notice you are modifying) Warren?

Ready to settle on a choice with the community's approval. Here are a couple of screenshots that show the various icon/background options that could go in as standard.

Option 1 - Glass icons - Vista Black theme


Option 2 - Crystal icons - Vista Black theme


Option 3 - Crystal icons - emerald background - Velvet theme


Option 4 - Crystal icons - Puppy 2.14 background - IcebergX theme


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PostPosted: Fri 09 Mar 2007, 20:14    Post subject:  

I think option 4, but with one of pizzasgood's shining backgrounds still looks the best - nice, clean and modern. I think the glass icons (while nice) look a bit bland.

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PostPosted: Fri 09 Mar 2007, 23:12    Post subject:  

Definitely the Shining Blue Pawprint background, almost regardless of theme.

I like the Velvet theme in general, especially the way the window banner come close to matching the OS toolbar, but the window banner buttons need work. In particular, the minimize button is effectively invisible on my ThinkPad. Oddly, it's even harder to see the controls in the green-bannered active window than in the non-active charcoal banners.

Here are my suggestions (I could help with the graphics, but I'm not familiar with how to hack themes): Start with the Velvet Green (Baise/Baize) theme, but change the active color of the banner to exactly match the OS Toolbar - almost a sky-blue highlight rather than green. Add color to the window controls in the banner in their normal state (as they show in rollover now). Also, there should be a rollup control button like the one in the Vista Black theme. (Vista is clearly the best theme functionally, but we shouldn't copy. Infringement aside, we need our own clean and distinctive look.)

As for icons, I'm torn - we've got two good choices here and I don't think we can go wrong with either, except that the frosted ones won't work against a light background, so we'd need two sets.

This is shaping up nicely, overall.

One final note: The root menu needs work both organizationally and icon-wise. There are too many choices, and it's sometimes very hard to find things - it took me several minutes to find where to set the clock this afternoon. Consolidating a bunch of the stuff under "Control Panels" or the like would help this a lot. I'll see if I can take a swag at rearranging the menus this weekend...
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