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dmoore

Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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PostPosted: Fri 09 Mar 2007, 23:59    Post subject:  WINE
Subject description: integrating windows apps
 

Please integrate WINE into the community version. I know that native applications are always preferred, but a tightly integrated WINE (with a explorer-like file manager) would add alot of additional flexibility. It would be OK for the office version (probably more appropriate), but would still be very useful for the standard version.
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veronicathecow


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PostPosted: Sun 11 Mar 2007, 15:19    Post subject:  

Yes please WINE for me as well in the large version of Puppy, somethings just need it (Obscure webcam etc) Thank you
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oui

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PostPosted: Thu 15 Mar 2007, 13:44    Post subject:  

Hi

I don't understand your request: WINE is absolutely easy to install directly as downloaded in the version for slackware from the site of winehq: only download in / and click on it with rox. the unzipper starts. mark all and start! a few seconds later is wine in /user/bin click on winebuild etc. (I am in windows now and can not look at it now). finish.

but I have to say that different versions of wine did work all properly until vers. wine-0.9.16-i486-S10.2 and the newer versions not! it is a major problem of wine or puppy. and the puppy versions without Xorg seems don't to work with wine at all!

a minimal-wine (wine is a large application) would be an other matter, because the most people are not expert in stripping wine.

bye
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veronicathecow


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PostPosted: Thu 15 Mar 2007, 16:56    Post subject:  

Hi, thanks for info about WINE. Managed to install it, but it's as buggy as ever, won't install Corel Draw 9, Paint Shop PRo7...
At least this version dosn't crash when you click on the audio tab!!
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oui

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PostPosted: Thu 15 Mar 2007, 17:37    Post subject:  

bonjour

are you certain that those programms works properly under WINE?

a lot of drawings programms use BIOS or other system request not being really from microsoft windows.

i don't use especially the programms named by you. i use gimp, pixia, a grandios free but only MS-windows pixel drawing programm (starts in wine but i did not really use it under wine because of the driver for the wacom tablet; so i have no real experience), and i love eva (from barry, our puppy master, as windows programmer!) but i can understand that you prefer your usual software for such purposes.

(I search for a true type designer for the linux environment and I know that corel includes this ability for example. but i have only a real old version of corel draw)

let us know what experience you do with wine! it is very interesting for a lot of people on this forum!

salut
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JB4x4

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PostPosted: Thu 15 Mar 2007, 19:56    Post subject:  

If you install the following Slackware package, you should have full use of the newer wines (I use wine-0.9.32), and I haven't had any problems with my Puppy install.

http://packages.slackware.it/package.php?q=current/glibc-solibs-2.3.6-i486-6

You can use the above process to install the package or try Barry's new tgz2pet script included in Puppy 2.14 and install with PetGet.

NOTE: run the command "ldconfig" from a terminal (one time only) before trying any wine commands.
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iandel

Joined: 28 Sep 2005
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PostPosted: Mon 26 Mar 2007, 16:51    Post subject:  

G'day,

I just downloaded the Slackware version from winehq.com, saved it to /, extracted all, and went to /usr/bin and clicked on winebuild. It flashed (or maybe "winked" would be a better term) at me a couple of times then did nothing. If i tried doing it using a console it came up with a lot of stuff which means nothing to me but ended up with some Mode options and a line which said "The mode options are mutually exclusive; you must specify one and only one.".

Similarly, clicking on winecfg got the flashing and nothing else, and using a console got
usr/bin/wine: error while loading shared libraries: libwine.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory".

Am I doing something wrong or am I supposed to be teetotal?
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Lobster
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PostPosted: Mon 26 Mar 2007, 18:38    Post subject:  

http://puppylinux.org/wikka/WineUse
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iandel

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PostPosted: Tue 27 Mar 2007, 20:11    Post subject:  

G'day again,

I went to the link, downloaded the 2 files mentioned
http://dotpups.de/dotpups/Emulators/Wine-0.9.22/Wine-0.9.22-drive_c-and-Wordview.pup
http://dotpups.de/dotpups/Emulators/Wine-0.9.22/Wine-mime-type-for-Rox-1.2.pup
Now when I click winecfg in /usr.local/Wine-mime-type-for-Rox-1.2 I get

/usr/local/Wine-mime-type-for-Rox-1.2/Winecfg:
line 3:
winecfg:
command not found

If I type winecfg in a console I get

sh-3.00# winecfg
sh: winecfg: command not found
sh-3.00#

So I still have not tasted any wine yet. I am running PuppyLinux 2.14.

Help, please.
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richard.a


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PostPosted: Tue 27 Mar 2007, 21:17    Post subject:  

iandel I've installed in several Linuxes under WINE the three MS viewers for word, excel and powerpoint.

did you install them in WINE?

You can often copy across the directory structure from a Windows installation.

I have some suggestions about WINE (in general) on a set of pages I wrote if you are interested.

Richard

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iandel

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PostPosted: Tue 27 Mar 2007, 22:26    Post subject:  

G'day again,

I now have managed to get WINE installed (I think). The Configuration is working anyway.

I cannot seem to get anything working in it. I do have some Windoze partitions, with XP and 2000. I have tried linking to programmes on these partitions (mounted) and also unzipping a Windoze application into a folder in LINUX and linking to that. No results.

If I click on a *.exe file it says "No run action specified. . ."

Richard, I would appreciate any help available. If your papers will help then please send them. I am reasonably good at following instructions but as far as I know I am doing what it says in the WINEHQ instructions.

I can now see the wine but still can't drink.
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richard.a


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PostPosted: Tue 27 Mar 2007, 23:37    Post subject:  

They are quite old, and only discuss use of WINE in the bigger Linux distributions, and in PC-BSD which is Unix.

You can find them here - this is a general page, and there are individual pages I link to, for different operating systems I have tried the different applications in.

It may be that puppy does things differently; I have not yet tried WINE in PuppyLinux. This is something I need a round tuit for Smile

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PostPosted: Wed 28 Mar 2007, 19:35    Post subject:  

JB4x4 wrote:
If you install the following Slackware package, you should have full use of the newer wines (I use wine-0.9.32), and I haven't had any problems with my Puppy install.

http://packages.slackware.it/package.php?q=current/glibc-solibs-2.3.6-i486-6

You can use the above process to install the package or try Barry's new tgz2pet script included in Puppy 2.14 and install with PetGet.

NOTE: run the command "ldconfig" from a terminal (one time only) before trying any wine commands.

I got this...

Quote:
Sorry, I can't find any package matching your query.


If you'd like to send me a copy, I'll host it

Richard in Australia

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oui

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PostPosted: Fri 05 Oct 2007, 17:44    Post subject:  

bonjour richard

your pages are really great! thank you!

I would like to have a system winypuppy (wine system that would start as linux but contain mainly windows applications)

a lot of applications works very properly now in wine:

different browsers of the mozilla family (firefox, K-meleon, a great windows-only-member of this family, etc.)

ftp-client: filezila (without changes)
multi-faces messenger-client: miranda (without changes) small but different memory use depending of the installed plugins
email-client: nPOPQ (without changes) about 200 kbytes

(without changes: uses the same pointers as in windows and continue if you return in windows!)

eve WEB (the genial free drawing program from our barry kauler, the most important person here) 80 kbytes

the small, fast and discret free HTML-browser from www.offbyone.com (one FD!)

(discretion: one unique file contains all run time variables. if you erase this file in the directory AND in the Trash, there is nothing more of you personal data in the computer. you can do it daily very easy. and the favorites are the same as the windows favorite, so that you can continue to use the flexible windows favorites management that you did use in windows!)

pixia

different text processors for special uses (like UDP Unicode Document Processor) with true-type fonts

the gun, the text editor in 7 kbyte! 7 kbyte really!

a lot of free true type fonts



etc.

this would help to use only

ONE

version of the program on the hard disk:

windows is part of the system in the most computer kits available on the market

so it is not really necessary to interchange all this stuff if you go into the linux part of your system or into the windows part.

really, it is difficult to access to all services only with linux. webcam applications for example are available in very limited form. or OCR. divers scanner don't work in linux etc.

so we will continue a certain time to use windows, I am sorry.

so it would be incorrect to do so as if we would transgress the good convenience if we continue to use windows program where possible: all free and open source windows programs are as good as free and open source linux programs! there is no ethic difference!

bye
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cthisbear

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PostPosted: Fri 05 Oct 2007, 19:41    Post subject:  

Will this help:
Then maybe add WhoDos new Puppy 3 SFS and magic?

////////////////////////////////////////////

wow:
" Announcement: http://www.winehq.org/?announce=0.9.46
Download: [wine-0.9.46-i486.sfs]
md5sum: 3f0a89d274279a61a0137f10a77f0652 wine-0.9.46-i486.sfs
Requires: [xorg_OPENGL-7.2.pet] (official pet package) "

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?search_id=405267095&t=22259

http://files.filefront.com/wine+0946+i486sfs/;8699784;/fileinfo.html

////////////////////////////////////////////
Chris
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