Puppy CD boots in one computer but not another.

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astefan · #1 Post by **astefan** » Fri 20 Apr 2007, 20:35

Hi,

I downloaded today the current release of Puppy and tried to boot the CD.

Unfortunately I get on my main PC the following error:

What's wrong with my system? A Ubuntu boot CD works without any problems. I tried my Puppy CD on another PC - there it works. So it seems to be related to my PC.

Which info do you need so you can help me?

Thanks,
Stefan

DennisF · #2 Post by **DennisF** » Fri 20 Apr 2007, 22:36

Have you confirmed the CD with md5sum? My guess is you burnt a coaster

If so be more specific as to what kind of system you are trying to boot.

octobclrnts · #3 Post by **octobclrnts** » Fri 20 Apr 2007, 22:44

Well, he said he tried that CD on another PC and it worked, so I doubt it's a coaster.

Tui · #4 Post by **Tui** » Sat 21 Apr 2007, 00:06

Hi astefan, I think we need to know more about the machine
you are trying to run your live CD on, HD capacity, what other O/Ss'
loaded, and did you have any USB mem stick pluged into your pc.

Your screen shot shows that you got something else connected
i.e. a swap on "sda6" what might that be? Do you have a low
mem problem? I expected the "swap" would be on 'hda' 1,2,3 etc.
or an extra H/D (if desktop) low cap 800/1000 meg as swap mem
this would be defined as hdb1. and take the place of now old and now
expensive hard mem

Meanwhile
Cheers
Tui

astefan · #5 Post by **astefan** » Sat 21 Apr 2007, 13:43

Hi!

Thank you very much for trying to help me!!!!

Yes, the CD works fine on another PC.

we need to know more about the machine
you are trying to run your live CD on, HD capacity, what other O/Ss'
loaded, and did you have any USB mem stick pluged into your pc.

CPU: Core 2 Duo
RAM: 1024MB RAM
Drives:
1x SATA HDD 250GB
1x IDE CD/DVD drive.
Board: Gigabyte 965P-DS3

On hard disk I have installed Windows XP and Kubuntu. Both on primay partitions.

No, there is no USB stick plugged in. I guess the USB device mentioned is my internal card reader.

Your screen shot shows that you got something else connected
i.e. a swap on "sda6" what might that be?

sda6 - it is the swap device set up for Kubuntu - see above.

Do you have a low mem problem?

Don't know... !? Don't think so.

I hope I can help you with these information... I would be very happy to use Puppy... even if my PC is not 'old'.

Thanks,
Stefan[/quote]

Dougal · #6 Post by **Dougal** » Sat 21 Apr 2007, 14:36

It seems like the kernel has a problem detecting your cd-drive.

You could try booting with the "debug" boot parameter, which will cause lots of text to scroll past and look confusing, but when it stops you might find a hint as to what your problem is.

There is a chance it's a problem with irq's, in which case booting with the "irqpoll" parameter might solve the problem.

Note also that you can always do a "frugal" install of puppy on one of your partitions and add it to your grub menu: you just need to copy to that partition some files from the cd (vmlinuz, initrd.gz, pup_21x.sfs and zdrv_21x.sfs) and add a grub entry like you can find on the forum (here's and example. You will need to have PMEDIA=satahd)

Tui · #7 Post by **Tui** » Sun 22 Apr 2007, 08:14

Hi astefan,
I think you could have big problems in this sort out! I see you
have heaps of hard ram, I am not sure why ubuntu wants a swap space outside
that 1Gb hard ram, I can't see how anything can stored in a card reader without
a card there ! You also got heaps of H/D space, for me I got 2 H/Ds' in my box one H/D got win98se and XP Pro and the other H/D has three versions of puppy. There could be problems with the way your H/D is configd' After many hours of exp with the H/D partitioning I now use a freebe prog called GNOME - Gparted. So maybe you need to thro' a 10/20 Gb H/D into your machine -- A I like to get back to basics when solving problems with hardware and software.

Meamwhile

Cheers - Tui

ezeze5000 · #8 Post by **ezeze5000** » Mon 23 Apr 2007, 01:05

astefan wrote:Hi!

Thank you very much for trying to help me!!!!

Yes, the CD works fine on another PC.

we need to know more about the machine
you are trying to run your live CD on, HD capacity, what other O/Ss'
loaded, and did you have any USB mem stick pluged into your pc.
CPU: Core 2 Duo
RAM: 1024MB RAM
Drives:
1x SATA HDD 250GB
1x IDE CD/DVD drive.
Board: Gigabyte 965P-DS3

On hard disk I have installed Windows XP and Kubuntu. Both on primay partitions.

No, there is no USB stick plugged in. I guess the USB device mentioned is my internal card reader.

Your screen shot shows that you got something else connected
i.e. a swap on "sda6" what might that be?
sda6 - it is the swap device set up for Kubuntu - see above.

Do you have a low mem problem?
Don't know... !? Don't think so.

I hope I can help you with these information... I would be very happy to use Puppy... even if my PC is not 'old'.

Thanks,
Stefan

[/quote]

Check your BIOS settings in the advanced settings, try to set for non-plug and play OS.

Also check your jumpers on your CD/DVD drive (are they set for cable select?) Try setting it to the master setting if it isn't.

If you have a different drive try booting from that drive.
I have found that puppy just doesn't like some drives.

I hope this helps.

astefan · #9 Post by **astefan** » Mon 23 Apr 2007, 17:10

Thanks to all of you for your answers!

Found out the following:

On my main board (see above) I have the Intel ICH8 which does not support IDE drives. Because of that, my board has additionally a JMicron controller which supports IDE. And to this controller the CDROM is connect. Maybe this is reason for my trouble?

The option 'irqpoll' didn't solve this issue.

To set the bios option for non-plug and play OS I will try later.

Cheers,
Stefan

Dougal · #10 Post by **Dougal** » Mon 23 Apr 2007, 19:16

How about the "ide=nodma" boot param? and did you try the "debug" parameter, that might give us a hint as to what causes the trouble (at least at the software end).

rcrsn51 · #11 Post by **rcrsn51** » Tue 24 Apr 2007, 00:36

This link provides some workarounds for your situation.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=16950

mouldy · #12 Post by **mouldy** » Tue 24 Apr 2007, 00:49

I've never had problem with Puppy cd booting on one computer and not another. However I have had this happen with two or three other distributions some time ago. Streambox comes to mind for some reason. I even swapped out cdroms to no effect. It was apparently something in the bios on the one computer that was the problem. I booted from Bootable CD Loader 1.50z on floppy which autoboots any bootable cd in cdrom. The reluctant live cds then would boot. It was meant for old pcs that couldnt boot from cdrom, but is more effective booter than the bios in some computers that are supposed to be able to boot from cdrom.

Here is website. http://bootcd.narod.ru You want the third program on the page, the LOADER not the wizard.... Its 20kb, very tiny download.

waggygee · #13 Post by **waggygee** » Fri 04 May 2007, 11:42

I had an almost identical problem.... For some reason my computer runs Grafpup2.0beta prefectly but all other puppy distros do the same as what yours does. I sugest you try it

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