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#31 Post by jamesbond »

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#32 Post by ohyes »

:)
Looking great WhoDo Thankyou !
Thx especially for giving us cursor options

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#33 Post by ohyes »

Just reinstalled puppy using a frugal install of 2.16.1 of course one of the first things I did was to add Ezpup !

All went well, only a couple of things Im not sure of..'Xlock' Icon is visible but clicking on it nothing happens & 'Blinky' has a grey square around it instead of blending in with the black taskbar like it used to..

Not sure if this has anything to do with using a frugal install for the first time or perhaps something diff with Ezpup 2 ?

This is less a major.. major more a minor.. minor :)

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#34 Post by WhoDo »

ohyes wrote:..'Xlock' Icon is visible but clicking on it nothing happens
Show the hidden files in /root and delete any .xlock.rc file.
ohyes wrote:'Blinky' has a grey square around it instead of blending in with the black taskbar like it used to..
From the Quicklaunch menu, edit startup and ensure that the line calling Blinky has ...

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-bg "" &
... at the end. That will give a transparent background.
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#35 Post by ohyes »

WhoDo

Thx for replying !

I removed .Xlock from root and Xlock again worked but after rebooting it comes back to stop Xlock working.

For Blinky looks like I do have whats required..though below is my startup just incase something is wrong with it

#!/bin/sh
# this script is executed by starticewm when IceWM starts

killall icesound
#icesound &

killall icewmtray
icewmtray &

# dockapps, we must kill each to
# avoid multiple starts when switching a theme

killall icedock
#icedock &

# icedock needs a moment to start, so delay the apps
sleep 2

killall volume.app
#volume.app &
killall wmfishtime
#wmfishtime &
killall wmix
#wmix &
killall wmpower
#wmpower &
killall wmsm
#wmsm &
killall wmtop
#wmtop &
killall wmweather
#wmweather-starter &
killall wmxmms
#wmxmms &

###################################################################
# you can choose to use the tray of icewm, or the external xystray
#
# uncomment what you like
#

#killall xystray
#sleep 2 && /usr/local/xystray-trayicons/run-xystray &

killall freememapplet-tray
#sleep 2 && iu_nice -n 19 /root/my-applications/freememapplet_tray_puppy215ce/freememapplet-tray &

killall blinky
sleep 2 && /root/my-applications/blinky-0.8-icewm/src/blinky -bg "" &


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#36 Post by WhoDo »

ohyes wrote:I removed .Xlock from root and Xlock again worked but after rebooting it comes back to stop Xlock working.
If you click on xlock to "test" that it's working, and you don't enter a password, you get a corrupt (null) encrypted password. Simply delete the /root/.xlock.rc file again and this time either don't click on xlock to test, or use a password you can remember and let xlock start.
ohyes wrote:For Blinky looks like I do have whats required..though below is my startup just incase something is wrong with it
Yes, your line for Blinky in startup is ok. Blinky picks up (for transparency purposes) the first taskbar background after it is started with the transparency option.

I suggest you comment out the line containing Blinky and reboot into your preferred theme. Then uncomment Blinky in startup and use Ctrl+Alt+Backspace to exit to prompt. Restart IceWM with the full "xwin starticewm" commandline. Blinky "should" then pick up its transparent background from the current taskbar.

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#37 Post by ohyes »

WhoDo

Xlock now OK, Cheers :)

Blinky still a problem, keeps coming back with the grey square

Also tried overwriting with installing Ezpup again didnt do anything for me.

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#38 Post by WhoDo »

ohyes wrote:Blinky still a problem, keeps coming back with the grey square

Also tried overwriting with installing Ezpup again didnt do anything for me.
Edit startup to give blinky a background color - format as -bg "#ffffff" - shutdown and restart with the new color to ensure that blinky is reading the -bg switch. Then repeat process removing color data and leaving -bg "", shutdown and restart. Blinky should pick up the correct background info.

Also, double check that you have ColorNetIdle="" in either your /root/.icewm/preferences file or the default.theme file for the theme you are using. If that doesn't work, then I don't know what else to tell you, ohyes.
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#39 Post by ohyes »

WhoDo
I changed Blinky bg colour in startup as below and rebooted but the colour still the same..so I guess bg colour switch is not working for some reason but why :?

killall blinky
sleep 2 && /root/my-applications/blinky-0.8-icewm/src/blinky -bg "#ffffff" &



Also looked in
/root/.icewm/preferences
to see ColorNetIdle=""
That parameter is not there...but it is in
/root/.icewm/icewm/default.theme

# network device
ColorNetSend="#0000FF"
ColorNetReceive="#FF0000"
ColorNetIdle=""


Im using the Ice VistaBlackIV theme

Like I said before though this aint a big issue..and if I really dont like that grey square I can just stop Blinky from starting.

Im gonna try changing to another theme to see if what happens.

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#40 Post by ohyes »

For inifo

Im not sure as to why but, ..the bg switch is not working..tried setting colour from the console ..no difference.

I then tried changing the GTK theme with the GTK THeme Chooser.
.. when I fire blinky up it shows the colour of the chosen theme every time ignoring any colour parameter I put in the bg switch

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#41 Post by WhoDo »

ohyes wrote:I then tried changing the GTK theme with the GTK THeme Chooser.

.. when I fire blinky up it shows the colour of the chosen theme every time ignoring any colour parameter I put in the bg switch
Hmmmm...which Gtk Themechooser did you use ... the old default or the one titled MU-Gtk-Themechooser? Using the old one at some time since installing EZpup may have overwritten something on your system.

Try reinstalling the MU-Gtk-Themechooser from PSI and rebooting. Then select Aero as the default theme. Then reboot to restart X and reload any libraries and see what happens when you reset blinky to transparent as suggested in a previous post.

Hope that helps.
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#42 Post by ohyes »

:) it's working now ..not sure why...though Im not game to try and break it :wink:

Edit:Played with Mu Theme chooser...if i pick another theme blinky ends up with the theme colour border .. :shock: the inner is still black.. so to get around that I m using Aero Clone theme..which blends black
So almost fixed..

I had played with the default GTK Theme and also MU GTK theme chooser so maybe something is wrong there but the problem started before touching either theme choosers.

One thing I noticed when running/starting Blinky from the console is that you get the application messages echoed ..in this case 'blinky'
though I couldnt make sense of what it was telling me.

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#43 Post by WhoDo »

ohyes wrote::) it's working now ..not sure why...though Im not game to try and break it :wink:
Hey, if it aint broke don't fix it! :P

Blinky was meant to run under JWM, not Icewm. It was patched for IceWM by MU using eggtrayicon or something like that. I happen to like blinky, but Icewm has its own Net monitoring on the task bar. I guess it's one of those not so important issues.

Glad you've got it back to where it was.
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#44 Post by Béèm »

WhoDo wrote:
ohyes wrote: Blinky was meant to run under JWM, not Icewm. It was patched for IceWM by MU using eggtrayicon or something like that. I happen to like blinky, but Icewm has its own Net monitoring on the task bar. I guess it's one of those not so important issues.
I commented out blinky so it's not anymore on the taskbar, but where is icewm's net monitoring?
How is it activated for the task bar?

Also volume and wmpower now creates a little sepate window and not a task bar item.

Freemamapplet has improved and it's a little blue block, but not large enough to display the value. Only two digits are displayed.

So I still have problems with icewm.

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Béèm wrote:I commented out blinky so it's not anymore on the taskbar, but where is icewm's net monitoring?
How is it activated for the task bar?
Place the following line in /root/.icewm/prefoverride

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#  Show network status on task bar (Linux only)
TaskBarShowNetStatus=1 # 0/1
Béèm wrote:Also volume and wmpower now creates a little sepate window and not a task bar item.
wmpower is an icedock applet, and needs icedock enabled in /root/.icewm/startup.

There is also a volume applet for icedock, but I prefer to use Pvolume from the menu. It will start as a full app window, but minimising the window puts on the taskbar as an icon. You could also start it from an icon on the taskbar. See the EZpup Help wiki page for links to the manuals for Icewm and Rox and for tips and tricks for customising EZpup.
Béèm wrote:Freemamapplet has improved and it's a little blue block, but not large enough to display the value. Only two digits are displayed.
This one is beyond me to resolve. The version of Freememapplet I provided in EZpup-2 was patched for IceWM by MU. Instead I prefer to use the Disk Free icon on the desktop which calls Partview to display free space on the mounted partitions. Alternatively you could run conky on the desktop and have all the stats you could ever want.

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#46 Post by Béèm »

WhoDo wrote:
Béèm wrote:
WhoDo wrote:I commented out blinky so it's not anymore on the taskbar, but where is icewm's net monitoring?
How is it activated for the task bar?
Place the following line in /root/.icewm/prefoverride

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#  Show network status on task bar (Linux only)
TaskBarShowNetStatus=1 # 0/1
That didn't work.
I suppose =1 is show.
Béèm wrote:Also volume and wmpower now creates a little sepate window and not a task bar item.
WhoDo wrote: wmpower is an icedock applet, and needs icedock enabled in /root/.icewm/startup.

There is also a volume applet for icedock, but I prefer to use Pvolume from the menu. It will start as a full app window, but minimising the window puts on the taskbar as an icon. You could also start it from an icon on the taskbar. See the EZpup Help wiki page for links to the manuals for Icewm and Rox and for tips and tricks for customising EZpup.
Indeed Pvolume has the advantage it contains the mixer as well. Would there be a possibility to start Pvolume and minimize it automatically when the X-server is started?
New Wiki page from today? :)
Nice.
Béèm wrote:Freemamapplet has improved and it's a little blue block, but not large enough to display the value. Only two digits are displayed.
WhoDo wrote: This one is beyond me to resolve. The version of Freememapplet I provided in EZpup-2 was patched for IceWM by MU. Instead I prefer to use the Disk Free icon on the desktop which calls Partview to display free space on the mounted partitions. Alternatively you could run conky on the desktop and have all the stats you could ever want.
I know, but I wanted to inform you about the "progress" when a new version is installed.
I'll try conky as well.
WhoDo wrote:Hope that helps.
What would be the best way to preserve the peronalized settings of icewm?
Copy the ./icewm directory to a save place before upgrading to a newer version and then copy it back?
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#47 Post by WhoDo »

Béèm wrote:

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#  Show network status on task bar (Linux only)
TaskBarShowNetStatus=1 # 0/1
That didn't work.
I suppose =1 is show.
Yes, 1=show. Of course you have to reboot to see any change. You should get a transparent window of similar size to the CPU activity block and in almost the same location.
Béèm wrote:Indeed Pvolume has the advantage it contains the mixer as well. Would there be a possibility to start Pvolume and minimize it automatically when the X-server is started?
Yes. I think Guesttoo actually posted the process to get it started and minimized automatically. I now regret not keeping a record of that, because it could be added to the wiki. If you search the forum and find it, please let me know.
Béèm wrote:What would be the best way to preserve the peronalized settings of icewm? Copy the ./icewm directory to a save place before upgrading to a newer version and then copy it back?
You could do that, but you really only need the 5 configuration files that govern Icewm's format: preferences, prefoverride, toolbar, winoptions and menu. To those you could also add keys, if you changed any key assignments, and theme, if you can't remember which theme was current.

To that you could also add a backup copy of /root/Choices/ROX-filer/PuppyPin and /root/.config/rox.sourceforge.net/ROX-Filer/globicons which will protect your desktop layout and the icon associations on the desktop in Rox.

Hope that helps.
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#48 Post by GuestToo »

you may be referring to this thread:
How to put mini-volume control in icewm taskbar?
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=11302

also, this is interesting:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=19248

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#49 Post by WhoDo »

GuestToo wrote:you may be referring to this thread:
How to put mini-volume control in icewm taskbar?
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=11302
Yes, that's the one G2. Thanks. I'll give it a try on my machine and add it to the wiki if it works. Of course there is a simpler alternative. Add the following line to the end of the /root/.icewm/toolbar file

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prog "Volume" mixer pvolume-mixer
It works perfectly well that way for me. Hardly "started minimised" as Béèm requested, but just as good IMHO.

Update: Your solution works fine for me, too, G2. Added to EZpup Help wiki page.

@Béèm: Add the following to the /root/.icewm/winoptions file

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pvolume-mixer.tcl.startMinimized: 1
...and add the following lines to Icewm's startup file

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killall pvolume-mixer.tcl
pvolume-mixer.tcl & 
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#50 Post by ohyes »

For Info

With Ezpup2 installed:
When Installed devx_216.sfs and rebooted, my Icons changed to a different set not sure which (but not the default). Anyone else had this ?
If I installed devx_216.sfs first and then Ezpup 2 no problem.

Been playing with 2.16 installs, found that when I used previous Ezpup blinky background colour correct after installation.

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