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Lobster
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Joined: 04 May 2005 Posts: 15109 Location: Paradox Realm
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Posted: Thu 05 Jul 2007, 01:18 Post subject:
Voldemort attacks wiki Subject description: or is it spammers . . . |
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The wiki was attacked again as predicted
'Registered users' with spam bot name such as "rtg67op" need to be deleted in the MySQL database that Wikka uses (I don't have that access)
Going to page history (bottom of wiki page) allows genuine users to click on the date for a pre bot edit and then near the bottom of the page re-edit that page - which can then be stored
update:
A new attack matching username and wikki page has begun. It is possible it is an isolated case . . .
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Previously known as Guest

Joined: 28 Sep 2005 Posts: 240
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Posted: Thu 05 Jul 2007, 01:55 Post subject:
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Shame, seems the dimwit wanna be hackers/children are at it again.
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John Doe
Joined: 01 Aug 2005 Posts: 1689 Location: Michigan, US
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Posted: Thu 05 Jul 2007, 02:07 Post subject:
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It's a shame that some idiot(s) needs to stomp all over it just because the library door is left open.
...and so easy to fix... middle finger extended to them.
I didn't see it, was it spam or spew?
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Lobster
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Joined: 04 May 2005 Posts: 15109 Location: Paradox Realm
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Posted: Thu 05 Jul 2007, 03:55 Post subject:
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Society for the Promotion of Elfish Welfare = spew?
It is not lone hackers or script kiddies it is commercial interests
They would probably like to be thought of as 'guerilla marketers'
By having links on our site their google page rank may go up if the links are not removed. There may be other motivations that I am unaware of. We are not being singled out, this is something that would be occuring on other wikka sites . . .
As mentioned SQL removal of the 'registered user/bots' is required. as we are now in the 3rd or 4th day of attacks and it may not stop until this is attended to . . .
I am running a later version of the wikka software at tmxxine.com but this was attacked too and has the disadvanatage that all the images would have to be upgraded to a full wikka link (at the moment just the url for the image is used)
it would have to become
| Code: | | {{image class="left" alt="logo" image url="http://i5.tinypic.com/14vrxv5.jpg"}} |
or similar
This is something I have mentioned before but no one was inclined to upgrade the images
I am inclined NOT to change ACL's. At the moment unregistered users can post, though sadly on fewer pages. More and more pages have become for registered users only [shrug]
Anyway if you have the time, pages need attention
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/RecentChanges
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HairyWill

Joined: 26 May 2006 Posts: 2949 Location: Southampton, UK
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Posted: Thu 05 Jul 2007, 05:18 Post subject:
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Lobster,
I am happy to do some. Is there a way of just saying "revert back to revision x" or is it a matter of manually editing the content to get it to match the last sensible revision.
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Lobster
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Posted: Thu 05 Jul 2007, 05:50 Post subject:
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you have to do it manually
the best thing is to go back to a real name (click on the date not the name)
There is also (I seem to remember) a way of changing the wiki ACL's to no posting globally but I can not remember it. The command has not been used but now might be a good time . . .
ah - here it is - but that is only for comments . . .
http://wikkawiki.org/ACLInfo
thanks for the offer, I find the wiki is a useful resource, so once it is back to health a backup would also be a good idea and perhaps even a mirror
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BarryK
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Joined: 09 May 2005 Posts: 6855 Location: Perth, Western Australia
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Posted: Thu 05 Jul 2007, 06:43 Post subject:
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I'm trying to recall.... I think I gave the mySQL admin access to raffy?
Just what accesses did I give you raffy?
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HairyWill

Joined: 26 May 2006 Posts: 2949 Location: Southampton, UK
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Posted: Thu 05 Jul 2007, 06:58 Post subject:
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| Lobster wrote: | you have to do it manually
the best thing is to go back to a real name (click on the date not the name) | That stinks. I wonder how difficult it is to remove a users edits from the back end.
I can't see how editing the ACLs is going to help unless you want to add a default deny to a particular user and have it affect all pages. As you have said what you really want to do is delete their account.
Now I'm really confused user XpeLwf put in an edit to fix an old forum link
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/KDE/history
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Lobster
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Posted: Thu 05 Jul 2007, 07:02 Post subject:
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OK if Raffy or Puppian have access
they go to servage admin
go to the sql database for the wikki
then (I forget the exact details) they can change registered users by clicking by their names and then clicking on delete
this deletes the users (none have created any pages - just modified existing work)
Most of the names are pretty obviously script created . . .
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Lobster
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Posted: Thu 05 Jul 2007, 07:06 Post subject:
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Hairy Will - the so called registered users have to be deleted first - need to contact Raffy or Puppian as they have SQL access . . .
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WhoDo

Joined: 11 Jul 2006 Posts: 4441 Location: Lake Macquarie NSW Australia
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Posted: Thu 05 Jul 2007, 07:08 Post subject:
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| BarryK wrote: | I'm trying to recall.... I think I gave the mySQL admin access to raffy?
Just what accesses did I give you raffy? |
Whatever you gave raffy, Barry, he has also given to me so we can update the website.
I have had a quick look at both mysql database groups, and done a search on users, but I am unable to locate any users of the name/type Lobster mentions.
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Lobster
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Posted: Thu 05 Jul 2007, 07:19 Post subject:
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OK Warren I will go to my tmxxine database and try and give more details soon . . .
many thanks
- for now
(as an example) all these are spambots
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/UsersList
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Lobster
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Posted: Thu 05 Jul 2007, 07:27 Post subject:
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OK Warren here is the procedure (there are some new ones back at tmxxine - so will have to keep an eye on this for a few days)
MySQL Databases
view database (for wikki or Wikka)
wikka users
browse
click and delete
note - spammers are using gmail.com as their email address
if you are unsure
(but some genuine registers will also be using this)
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WhoDo

Joined: 11 Jul 2006 Posts: 4441 Location: Lake Macquarie NSW Australia
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Posted: Thu 05 Jul 2007, 07:49 Post subject:
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| Lobster wrote: | OK Warren here is the procedure (there are some new ones back at tmxxine - so will have to keep an eye on this for a few days)
MySQL Databases
view database (for wikki or Wikka)
wikka users
browse
click and delete
note - spammers are using gmail.com as their email address
if you are unsure
(but some genuine registers will also be using this) |
Ok, I've been through and deleted a number of users I thought were spamming bots. Most were dead giveaways with their name/address combinations.
Problem is, I have access to 2 sections of Barry's mysql databases, and I can't see the wiki or wikka or wakka anywhere in there. I've got forums, mantis, news, reviews and 2 users databases, among many many others, but nothing for the wiki. Sorry.
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Lobster
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Posted: Thu 05 Jul 2007, 08:22 Post subject:
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some databases can be shared . . . but that does not seem the right databases . . .
it also seems that you have access for
http://puppylinux.org (amongst others)
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