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Mercury: Instant Messaging with Video Conferencing
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PostPosted: Thu 22 Sep 2005, 13:36    Post_subject:  

rarsa wrote:
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Is there a instant messenging/video conferencing app for Puppy that is M$N independent?
Why? as a matter of principle? If something get's the job done good enough, why would you care?


As a matter of strategy anything that helps M$ to make the argument that they are the best source of standards for anything is bad for long-term freedom on the Internet.

Besides, if they aren't making money from it, like Yahoo IM, they will keep changing things just enough to sabotage non-M$ apps.

I will have to look at some of the Amateur Radio apps for Linux. Perhaps there is something there that may be modified.

Two-way keyboard to keyboard via radio is easy via psk31, rtty, pskmail, etc.

Adding video such as is done via ATV would also seem possible.

Both completely independent of M$ anything.

Perhaps I am missing something but in the spirit of the Puppy model it sure seems that someone somewhere has a more simple and independent app.

You are more expert than am I so I will defer unless/until I can discover something in an unusual site on the Internet ... will advise if I do. Wink

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PostPosted: Thu 03 Nov 2005, 17:44    Post_subject: Error message with Mercury  

Hi rarsa

I downloaded Mercury installer and followed your steps but all of a sudden a very long error message relating to Color appeared on rxvt window and the nice colour window that opened up froze.

I installed the Java pup package before d/l Mercury w/o Java.

Should I d/l Mercury with JVM?
If I do so, will Mozilla be affected by another Java being installed on the machine?

thanks again for so much help - cheers

Gonçal
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PostPosted: Thu 03 Nov 2005, 17:47    Post_subject: spca5xx drivers ok  

BTW I did manage to install my spca5xx drivers just fine and now the webcam's green LED comes up on just after running your script with depmod and modprobe spca5xx.

Is there any other way I can videoconference with my MSN id... and a simpler one than Mercury? Any website allowing a sort of WebMSN?

thanks again Gonçal
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PostPosted: Thu 03 Nov 2005, 18:02    Post_subject:  

goncal wrote:
Is there any other way I can videoconference with my MSN id... and a simpler one than Mercury? Any website allowing a sort of WebMSN?
Not that I know of and I looked everywhere.

I cannot picture the error you are getting. At what point of the installation did you get the error?

I tried with the 'compact' version of Java that mark (MU) posted and it did not work with that one. Java has no problems running diferent VM in the same computer so I don'see how that can be an issue.

Let me retry my instructions later today as they worked flawlessly once I got them right. (Which took substantial amount of time). To see if something has changed since. I'll have an answer in less than 8 hours Wink

What puppy version are you using?
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PostPosted: Thu 03 Nov 2005, 18:17    Post_subject: Mercury error  

rarsa

this happened at the very beginning, the progress bar only at about 8% or so.

I need to go back to the installation to get the error to you but I tried several times and always got the same error.

I did that just now. First of all a "strings: no such file or directory" appeared.

After that the nice full colour window.

Clicking on OK did it: file gnu_java_awt_peer_gtk_GdkGraphics2D.c: line 1433 (Java_gnu_java_awt_peer_gtk_GdkGraphics2D_cairoSetRGBAColorUnlocked): assertion failed: (gr ! = NULL)
Aborting...
Aborted

There you are

thanks again

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PostPosted: Thu 03 Nov 2005, 19:15    Post_subject:  

Actually I need to know "At what step in the instructions that I provided" do you get the error.

I separated the post is high level steps (I, II, III) and inside that I've numbered the steps (1, 2, 3). I need to know the actual step. e.g. II.3
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PostPosted: Thu 03 Nov 2005, 19:36    Post_subject: I.3  

thanks rarsa -

things happened at I.3 when running the .bin which was turned into an executable

However I did install the webcam drivers and they have my Labtec webcam showing its green LED on, I just thought this was independent and could do it no matter when - and then of course maybe I was completely wrong

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PostPosted: Thu 03 Nov 2005, 19:55    Post_subject:  

I just installed both versions of mercury.

http://www.mercury.to/

Mercury 1709 for Linux with JVM
Mercury 1709 for Linux without JVM

First the one with vm:
chmod 755 1709_Linux_VM.bin
./1709_Linux_VM.bin

This works fine.
In the end it says there was an error, but I can launch /root/Mercury/mercury

Then I run the uninstall-script and delete /root/Mercury.


Next I try the other one.
With Dotpupdownloader (you can download it from the Wiki too in Mozilla), I install Sun-Java 1.5.0_4

Then
chmod 755 1709_Linux_NOVM.bin
./1709_Linux_NOVM.bin

The rest is identical to the first version.

So my question to Goncal is: What for a Java did you use?

Mark

Ps. I personally prefer the second version, as it uses Java 1.5.
The Mercury-inbuilt-Java is Sun-JRE 1.4
If there is trouble installing java, see: http://www.murga.org/%7Epuppy/viewtopic.php?t=3085&highlight=java
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PostPosted: Thu 03 Nov 2005, 20:10    Post_subject: version of java  

thanks MU

Downloaded a pupget package, jamjikescairo-1, using the DotPup Installer that comes with P1.0.5.

This works fine with Mozilla when browsing Java-dependent sites.

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PostPosted: Thu 03 Nov 2005, 20:33    Post_subject:  

Ah I see.

So try the SUN-Java instead.
The package you mention is the effort, to build a "real" free Java (and it is quite small), but it does not have all the classes the huge SUN-Java has.

Some Apps work with it, some don't.

See this thread for details:
http://www.murga.org/~puppy/viewtopic.php?t=2416

Mark
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PostPosted: Thu 03 Nov 2005, 22:31    Post_subject:  

Quote:
jamjikescairo-1
Smile This is the one I mentioned Mercury does not work with Smile.

Given that, I would recommend installing the version that includes the VM.
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PostPosted: Fri 04 Nov 2005, 22:42    Post_subject: Mercury up and running - no sound from mike though  

rarsa

followed your sound advice and now Mercury installed fine with the few restart issues you talked about.

Had lots of trouble getting the JMF files via torrent which I managed to set up as per your instructions, but sadly I kept getting unfinished packages all the time even after leaving the connection open for 5 hours - would never get past 6.5M - and finally ran a search and could download it off http://70.25.151.230/JMF.zip

I am very happy with Mercury as the webcam functions well (after starting it manually with a bash script modprobe'ing etc).

However I now have an issue with my sound input system as I will not get any sound off the microphone. I posted a thread somewhere else in the forum.

cheers

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PostPosted: Sat 05 Nov 2005, 02:15    Post_subject:  

Good luck with the mic.
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PostPosted: Sun 06 Nov 2005, 17:11    Post_subject: mic...  

thanks rarsa actually there is something in the mixer system that is not working as I cannot record any sound input via line in either.

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PostPosted: Sat 10 Dec 2005, 00:11    Post_subject: mention  

Well I am googling my head out trying to find spca5xx.o
This way I can compile the latest and greatest plus have a read me file. Someone mentioned above they made a small script that automates all the confusion. Could you please post that little script ?
And please rarsa provide a link for the homepage for spca5xx.o

Great job! Hope to see a wikki page for this how to.

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