gCAD3D: a 3D CAD program
I have packaged gCAD3D and its 3 dependencies as ch-gCAD3D-1.30.sfs. You will still need OpenGL.
I am not a CAD user (yet!) but so far it seems to run well in ChoicePup 412 and should run as well in other pups. The help function doesn't find a browser but the numerous help files may be accessed in /usr/local/gCAD3D/doc.
Thanks Muggins, J
I am not a CAD user (yet!) but so far it seems to run well in ChoicePup 412 and should run as well in other pups. The help function doesn't find a browser but the numerous help files may be accessed in /usr/local/gCAD3D/doc.
Thanks Muggins, J
Netsurf is my defaulthtmlviewer and browser until another is loaded. I was running Opera as my defaultbrowser when I tried accessing help files.muggins wrote:I wonder which browser you're using?
returns:If you run, in console: /usr/local/gCAD3D/gCAD3D
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**** kein HTML-Browser gefunden
** ERROR: cannot find a browser to display file /usr/local/gCAD3D/doc/gCAD3D_startMAN_en.htm
I'd try it in p412 but I don't have that setup with OpenGL. Maybe I'll do that later this evening.
Trying Bricscad 9 (the last edition)
First I installed Bricscad 6 downloaded from the Bricsys page, native Linux.
It a trial for 30 days (or runs?).
It is good but old, and not runs with the fluidity needed in for a CAD user.
Now I am trying the version 9 (the latest one), in Muppy 083f.
I dont uninstalled the 6 version.
I downloaded the v.9 seeking in Google "Bricscad Portable".
It runs so good as the Win version.
Really a good program, and it runs in Muppy faster than Autocad in Windows. It is nearly full compatible.
It is not free, but it is a cheaper alternative.
I discover that Muppy 083f (and 084) is the most complete an solid version of Puppy I tried. Really the first version to make a complete windows replacement.
The linux programs runs very well, and a lot of windows programs too.
Thanks Mark.
It a trial for 30 days (or runs?).
It is good but old, and not runs with the fluidity needed in for a CAD user.
Now I am trying the version 9 (the latest one), in Muppy 083f.
I dont uninstalled the 6 version.
I downloaded the v.9 seeking in Google "Bricscad Portable".
It runs so good as the Win version.
Really a good program, and it runs in Muppy faster than Autocad in Windows. It is nearly full compatible.
It is not free, but it is a cheaper alternative.
I discover that Muppy 083f (and 084) is the most complete an solid version of Puppy I tried. Really the first version to make a complete windows replacement.
The linux programs runs very well, and a lot of windows programs too.
Thanks Mark.
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Hi Muggins,
I tried the 1.30.sfs and it runs straight forward (need xorg.xorg.....full-dri.pet - which I don't remind exactly the syntax).
Using gcad3d is rather unusual when used to Autocad or even QCad. I'm now learning to work with (when I have time to) with the goal to use it more intensively for my job for 3D structures design. It looks promising.
I'll tell the forum more in the future - don't know when...
Cheers
Charlie
Thanks a lot for your job as also jrb's .sfs !muggins wrote:Uploaded v1.32.
I tried the 1.30.sfs and it runs straight forward (need xorg.xorg.....full-dri.pet - which I don't remind exactly the syntax).
Using gcad3d is rather unusual when used to Autocad or even QCad. I'm now learning to work with (when I have time to) with the goal to use it more intensively for my job for 3D structures design. It looks promising.
I'll tell the forum more in the future - don't know when...
Cheers
Charlie
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Hi,
after sfs4 conversion, ch-gCAD3D-1.sfs tested on puppy 4.3 k2.6.30.5: won't run.
Should it be kernel version sensible?
OpenGL is working though.
here is the error message when running gCAD3D from terminal:
also tested on puppy4.3 k2.6.25.16: OK! after getting OpenGL working
Cheers
Charlie
after sfs4 conversion, ch-gCAD3D-1.sfs tested on puppy 4.3 k2.6.30.5: won't run.
Should it be kernel version sensible?
OpenGL is working though.
here is the error message when running gCAD3D from terminal:
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# ./gCAD3D
...
GUI_Tx_Win
GUI_Pix /usr/local/gCAD3D/xa/xa_logo.xpm
The program '<unknown>' received an X Window System error.
This probably reflects a bug in the program.
The error was 'BadMatch'.
(Details: serial 935 error_code 8 request_code 144 minor_code 5)
(Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously;
that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it.
To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line
option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful
backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() function.)
#
Cheers
Charlie
charlie6,
I don't know about the .sfs, but the current .pet, v1.32, seems to work, providing you install only openGL & libgtkgl-2.0.so.1.0.0.pet. I just tried it on p430, kernel 2.6.30.5, and was at first mystified when my graphics were corrupted. But then I see that libgio is already included in p430, so after removing save file, and just installing gCAD3D, openGL & libgtkgl-2.0, it seems to run OK.
I don't know about the .sfs, but the current .pet, v1.32, seems to work, providing you install only openGL & libgtkgl-2.0.so.1.0.0.pet. I just tried it on p430, kernel 2.6.30.5, and was at first mystified when my graphics were corrupted. But then I see that libgio is already included in p430, so after removing save file, and just installing gCAD3D, openGL & libgtkgl-2.0, it seems to run OK.
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Hi Muggins, thank you for your time!
I'll have a try on those pets.
cheers, charlie
I have to admit that I am a bit "lizy" as a .sfs file is more convenient to install than a heap of pets...muggins wrote:I've also amended the first post to advise people Not to install libgio, if using p430. And it appears that libselinix isn't needed for p430 as well.
I'll have a try on those pets.
cheers, charlie
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Re: gCAD3D: a 3D CAD program
Hi Muggins,
I have tried the pets on page 1...thanks again for them !
question 1
No success using the xorg_xorg_full_dri-7.3.pet (snif!)
On one machine with basic Intel-845G-graphic-onboard I did not get OpenGL working whereas xorg_xorg_full_dri-7.3.pet installed
(glxinfo gives a very short comment; does not even tell "direct rendering:No"; seems really not being working on the new kernel);
whereas on the same machine running pup430 k2.6.25.16 + xorg_xorg_full_dri-7.3.pet it tells "direct rendering: Yes" +gCAD3D .working;
On a second machine with NVIDIA Ge6 graphic card, using gray's Nvidia.pet drivers (thanks gray ! - see here
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 972#341972) - that driver has laready OpenGL in it - I got this:
- gcad3d working on pup430 k2.6.25.16
- gcad3d NOT working on pup430 k2.6.30.5
thank you for your reply
cheers, charlie
I have tried the pets on page 1...thanks again for them !
question 1
Could you help how to get OpenGL working on latest pup430 final?N.B. Just tried it on Barry's latest p430 release and, besides needing openGL ...
No success using the xorg_xorg_full_dri-7.3.pet (snif!)
On one machine with basic Intel-845G-graphic-onboard I did not get OpenGL working whereas xorg_xorg_full_dri-7.3.pet installed
(glxinfo gives a very short comment; does not even tell "direct rendering:No"; seems really not being working on the new kernel);
whereas on the same machine running pup430 k2.6.25.16 + xorg_xorg_full_dri-7.3.pet it tells "direct rendering: Yes" +gCAD3D .working;
On a second machine with NVIDIA Ge6 graphic card, using gray's Nvidia.pet drivers (thanks gray ! - see here
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 972#341972) - that driver has laready OpenGL in it - I got this:
- gcad3d working on pup430 k2.6.25.16
- gcad3d NOT working on pup430 k2.6.30.5
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# glxinfo [i]on pup430 k2.6.30.5[/i]
name of display: :0.0
display: :0 screen: 0
direct rendering: Yes
...
OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL renderer string: GeForce 6200SE TurboCache(TM)/PCI/SSE2
OpenGL version string: 2.1.2 NVIDIA 185.18.36
...
cheers, charlie
Hi Muggins !
Thanks for those .pets
I've installed all 4 of them and it works just fine on my Fujitsu Siemens Desktop with 500 MB ram and 2;6 GHz.
It runs with pupitup 4.1.2 kernel 2.6.25.16
However on my Aspire One netbook, starting it kills X...
Might be due to 1024x600 res screen.
And Charlie, since we live one mile apart we'll have to meet some day !
Thanks for those .pets
I've installed all 4 of them and it works just fine on my Fujitsu Siemens Desktop with 500 MB ram and 2;6 GHz.
It runs with pupitup 4.1.2 kernel 2.6.25.16
However on my Aspire One netbook, starting it kills X...
Might be due to 1024x600 res screen.
And Charlie, since we live one mile apart we'll have to meet some day !
Don't poop it down... Pup it Up !
eztuxer,
good to hear that it's working for you.
charlie6,
it seems either you're having problems getting openGL working, or gCAD3D doesn't like your graphics card?
What response if you run, in a terminal:
good to hear that it's working for you.
charlie6,
it seems either you're having problems getting openGL working, or gCAD3D doesn't like your graphics card?
What response if you run, in a terminal:
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/usr/local/gCAD3D/gCAD3D
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Hi Muggins,
I tried as mentionned in the last comments rows:
got the same code as hereabove.
Next:
Have to mention that gCAD3D works with that Nvidia Ge6 graphic card using k2.6.25.16.+NVIDIA-173.14.12-k2.6.25.16.pet +xorg_xorg-7.3-full-DRI.pet
Whereas on pup430-k2.630.5+NVIDIA-185.18.36-k2.6.30.5-1.pet I have e.g. GoogleEarth-4.3_430-sfs4.sfs nice working WITHOUT xorg_xorg-7.3-full-DRI.pet as xorg is already in the Nvidia driver.
Cheers, Charlie
Nvidia drivers gray's link:
for k2.6.30.5 http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 972#341972
for k2.6.25.16: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=34001
ps: I wonder if it could be usefull to ask gray's advice ? I believe this could come from xorg_dri new kernel compatibility. I indeed try the xorg_full_DRI with the new kernel on different graphic cards (onboard intel 845G and nvidia ge6): both do not give OpenGL working. Whereas both are working on k2.6.25.16.
muggins wrote:... having problems getting openGL working,...
Here it is....What response if you run, in a terminal:Code: Select all
/usr/local/gCAD3D/gCAD3D
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# pwd
/usr/local/gCAD3D
# gCAD3D
bash: gCAD3D: command not found
# ./gCAD3D
+++++++++++++ Start xa 1
0|./gCAD3D|
0|./gCAD3D|
OS_Init_ |./gCAD3D|
basedir = |/usr/local/gCAD3D/|
tmpdir = |/usr/local/gCAD3D/tmp/|
AP_dir_open=|/usr/local/gCAD3D/dat/|
AP_lang=|en|
AP_browser=|mozilla|
UTX_memFind1 40 2
ex UTX_memFind1 found 19
AP_printer=|lpr -l -PCUPS-PDF|
Modelname=|unknown.gcad|
AP_dir_save=|/usr/local/gCAD3D/dat/|
AP_dir_prg=|/usr/local/gCAD3D/prg/|
active application=||
AP_editor=|//|
AP_DllLst_write
UI_win_main 90
GUI_init || 0
UI_fontsizX/Y=7,7
UI_menCB |Iact|
UI_menCB |Bar1|
UI_menCB |Bar2|
=================================================
UI_butCB |VWR|
=================================================
UI_butCB |MAN|
DemoKondensatorplatte.so
DemoPlugin_Resolv.so
DemoPlugin_Hili.so
DemoPostProc.so
DemoPlugin_Create.so
Demo_Decode_Obj.so
DemoAnim1.so
Demosimple.so
DemoAssy1.so
APP_GIS1.so
DemoPlugin_Dialog.so
charSet 0 |ANSI_X3.4-1968|
ascent=10 descent=3
UI_Ed_ln_sizY = 13
UI_GR_Init
UI_GR_WinInit
UI_GR_DrawCreate
gtk_gl_area_new - 0
button_press_event=489
button_release_event
ex UI_GR_WinInit
GUI_Tx_Win
GUI_Pix /usr/local/gCAD3D/xa/xa_logo.xpm
The program '<unknown>' received an X Window System error.
This probably reflects a bug in the program.
The error was 'BadMatch'.
(Details: serial 953 error_code 8 request_code 144 minor_code 5)
(Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously;
that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it.
To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line
option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful
backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() function.)
#
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#./gCAD3D --sync
Next:
Nvidia drivers are kernel sensible. See belox end of post gray's (thanks gray !) posts giving respective Nvidia drivers according to kernel version:....or gCAD3D doesn't like your graphics card?
Have to mention that gCAD3D works with that Nvidia Ge6 graphic card using k2.6.25.16.+NVIDIA-173.14.12-k2.6.25.16.pet +xorg_xorg-7.3-full-DRI.pet
Whereas on pup430-k2.630.5+NVIDIA-185.18.36-k2.6.30.5-1.pet I have e.g. GoogleEarth-4.3_430-sfs4.sfs nice working WITHOUT xorg_xorg-7.3-full-DRI.pet as xorg is already in the Nvidia driver.
Cheers, Charlie
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Gray wrote: I have compiled and packaged the Nvidia drivers for the new kernel of Puppy 4.3 (k2.6.30.5). The pet packages also contain OpenGL libraries (libglut and libGLU) and a test program glxgears, so you do not need to install the xorg_dri package for OpenGL support.
for k2.6.30.5 http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 972#341972
for k2.6.25.16: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=34001
ps: I wonder if it could be usefull to ask gray's advice ? I believe this could come from xorg_dri new kernel compatibility. I indeed try the xorg_full_DRI with the new kernel on different graphic cards (onboard intel 845G and nvidia ge6): both do not give OpenGL working. Whereas both are working on k2.6.25.16.
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Hi Muggins,
in order to good understand :
Thanks for your reply!
cheers, Charlie
in order to good understand :
do you have removed the pupsave.2fs file because it could be corrupted? or what else?... so after removing save file...
Which way do you install openGL ? (as here xorg_xorg_full_dri-7.3.1.pet does not...)... and just installing gCAD3D, openGL & libgtkgl-2.0, it seems to run OK.
Thanks for your reply!
cheers, Charlie
Charlie6,
I think the problem is definitely openGL related, as I get similar output, except, following the
xa_logo.xpm line, I get a series of openGL comments:
To get openGL working on my computer, I also installed xorg_xorg_full_dri-7.3.pet. Unfortunately why this doesn't work for you is beyond my understanding...I know Mu was clued up on getting graphics cards working with openGL...but he's quite busy with other stuff AFAIK.
I think the problem is definitely openGL related, as I get similar output, except, following the
xa_logo.xpm line, I get a series of openGL comments:
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GUI_Pix /usr/local/gCAD3D/xa/xa_logo.xpm
::::GL_alloc__ 5000
::::GLT_alloc_pta 1 0 175000 175000
ex GLT_alloc_pta 1 175000 175000
::::GLT_alloc_cta 1 0 10000 10000
::::GLT_alloc_ppa 1 0 6000 6000
::::GLU_alloc 1 0 400 400
GL_RENDERER: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 915GM 20061017 x86/MMX/SSE2
GL_VERSION: 1.3 Mesa 6.5.2
GLU_VERSION: 1.3
GLU_EXTENSIONS: GLU_EXT_nurbs_tessellator GLU_EXT_object_space_tess
GL_DEPTH_BITS = 16
GL_STENCIL_BITS = 0
GL_ACCUM_RED/GREEN/BLUE/ALPHA_BITS = 0 0 0 0
GL_RED/GREEN/BLUE/ALPHA_BITS = 5 6 5 0
AP_stat.texture=0