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ecomoney


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PostPosted: Fri 07 Sep 2007, 19:48    Post_subject:  Opera 9,5 Alpha Available
Sub_title: Fastest of all browsers
 

Hi there, was reading this article which suggest that the new opera is significantly faster than previous versions. I would like to try it as it seems to be the only browser that will work with the new proprietary flash 9 (which adobe have made a dogs breakfast of...no pun intended). Although it is unfamiliar to most people, I would consider adding it to the next ecopup for this reason and this reason alone.

The package can be downloaded from here if someone would like to make a package up for it. It says it needs GCC 4 which I have a vague idea is something important that I read on Barry's blog will be in the next version of puppy or something.

Thanks in advance

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MU


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PostPosted: Fri 07 Sep 2007, 20:07    Post_subject:  

Flash 9 works ok for me in firefox, in Puppy 2.12 (Muppy 007)

I modified /usr/local/mozstart according to a tip by (I think) GuestToo:

Code:
#!/bin/sh

# Include /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins in the plugin path:
#added to fix the FLASH 9 bug that crashes the browser
if [ "$MOZ_PLUGIN_PATH" ] ; then
MOZ_PLUGIN_PATH=$MOZ_PLUGIN_PATH:${moz_libdir}/plugins:/root/.mozilla/plugins:/usr/lib/firefox/plugins
else
MOZ_PLUGIN_PATH=${moz_libdir}/plugins:/root/.mozilla/plugins:/usr/lib/firefox/plugins
fi
export MOZ_PLUGIN_PATH
#end of add to fix the FLASH 9 bug that crashes the browser

#Puppy does not want more than one instance of Moz running.

#aug06:
#note, must execute mozilla-bin here, as it is a script with
# a bug fix, and then executes seamonkey-bin.

### modified to run firefox by default ###
cd /usr/lib/firefox
./firefox "$@"
exit 0



Can you tell me a page, where your firefox crashes?
I'd like to test it Smile

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PostPosted: Fri 07 Sep 2007, 21:23    Post_subject:  

My FireFox crashed constantly with the new Flash until I found a patch on Todd's site. I think it was an updated version of the glibc libraries.
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PostPosted: Sat 08 Sep 2007, 08:52    Post_subject:  

Flash 9 seemed to work ok for me with Opera 9.22, in Puppy 2.16 nop, but then some Flash 7 sites would not work, so I went back to Flash 7.
In Ubuntu 6.06 LTS, I have Opera 9.23 with Flash 9 and It works fine.
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PostPosted: Sat 08 Sep 2007, 09:25    Post_subject: News  

When I read this, my heart jumped into my mouth!!!

MU...I think the file is in /usr/local/bin. This is the file that starts Seamonkey? I do wish to keep seamonkey in firefox as it uses flash 7 and so will work on popular sites like youtube and myspace. Could I make a copy of it and use it to start firefox with the modifications you made?

Sir Duncan, where is Todds site?

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MU


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PostPosted: Sat 08 Sep 2007, 10:30    Post_subject: Re: News  

ecomoney wrote:
Could I make a copy of it and use it to start firefox with the modifications you made?


shure, call it "my-firefox" or whatever. And make it executable of course.
I just modified mozstart directly, so that firefox will be used as default-browser.

Concerning the other tip with glibc I would be a bit sceptical:
it is a very important library, and replacing it might cause instability in other programs.
So I never tried that.
I often visit sites that use flash for advertisement, and had no crashes so far with the small startscript mentioned above.
Before, Firefox crashed often (but that was an older version, have not tried to run the updated one without that script yet).

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PostPosted: Sat 08 Sep 2007, 11:37    Post_subject:  

There actually is no longer a link on the main page to the location of glibc2.4. Luckily for you I had the page it is located on bookmarked.
<http://www.toddrichardson.com/archive/>

It is towards the bottom. It must be installed as an alien package. Hope it helps you as much as it has helped me.

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PostPosted: Fri 14 Sep 2007, 13:50    Post_subject:  

I don't think you will need GCC 4 for opera as it is ditributed only as binaries i have the latest stable opera 9.23 running in puppy 2.16 and it is the shared qt version although i don't think flash is working but that is my fault i think LOL
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PostPosted: Mon 17 Sep 2007, 07:50    Post_subject:  

Am using Opera 9.50alpha now. Dont see any great speed increase, maybe wee bit faster, but thats kind of subjective.

Why do you need a pkg? I just downloaded tar.gz version with static qt. Extracted it to a blank directory. cd'd to the sub directory and then ./install.sh

Say yes couple times and its installed and runs. Not a big deal.

I have noticed a couple bugs but nothing very serious so far.
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PostPosted: Mon 17 Sep 2007, 08:49    Post_subject:  

you may want to try it out on a slower pc then it will be more distinct (or maybe you are on a slow pc!) as far as speed they are measuring the rendering of javascript in milliseconds so it is not really noticeable on a new PC. Why would you want a .pet you ask? well is flash 9 working for you? i think that would be the only reason.
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PostPosted: Mon 17 Sep 2007, 16:08    Post_subject:  

I actually found it easier to download the most recent version of Opera and run it's prepackaged installer. Simply download and extract the tar.gz file. Then goto the command line and cd to where the installer is (I renamed the installer folder "opera" for the sake of simplicity). It installed nicely and it is what I am using for e-mail and networking. I only use SeaMonkey for Puppy forums.
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Pence

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PostPosted: Thu 20 Sep 2007, 10:21    Post_subject:  

Has anyone tried Flashplayer9 Update with Opera 9.5? http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer9/
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PostPosted: Thu 20 Sep 2007, 13:10    Post_subject:  

Yes, and it's not working for me Sad
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Pence

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PostPosted: Fri 21 Sep 2007, 08:32    Post_subject:  

Thanks sintot. I didn't see what the flash9update minimum requirements for linux are, but I sure wouldn't be able to run it with windows:

2.0 GHz Pentium-class processor or better
512MB of RAM
32MB video RAM
Windows 2000 Service Pack 4, XP Service Pack 2; Vista

Additionally, for high-definition video (720p or 1080p) content encoded with either On2 or H.264, performance will vary depending on the capabilities and configuration of your machine. In general a 2.0 GHz Mac or a 3GHz PC, with one or more processors, will deliver an optimum experience.
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PostPosted: Sun 23 Sep 2007, 10:59    Post_subject:  

Now it's working, with Opera 9.50 Alpha 1589, and flash plugin 9.0.60.184. It has some problems (ocasionally, I have to reload a page), but works.
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