WHICH Puppy derivatives?

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#91 Post by starhawk »

roky, this is one very rare case where I'd want to get in touch with gcmartin. He'd probably be able to give you something vaguely resembling directions... probably.

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#92 Post by rokytnji »

Well. Cool. I've changed kernels to get the SD card slot reader working. Touchscreen still works.

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3.18-5.dmz.1-liquorix-686-pae
This is not a biggie per se. I can fly on a Ubuntu or Debian or Arch minimal install and go from there. I am not hip on building up from a minimal Puppy install though.

I am usually install and tweak and go on Puppy with just minor tweaks at that.

This is the AntiX one I have dialed in pretty good.

http://imgur.com/CWY6JBQ

I have a feeling though that touchscreen>32 bit> and Puppy Linux might not be in the cards for me. Carolina Vangaurd looks promising. But ram usage on these I try and keep
at a minimum. So Fluxbox or JWM would be my druthers. E17 would be a option also and I am comfy in Icewm also.

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#93 Post by starhawk »

Hey, I've been thinking of seeing how Vanguard would run on my netbook... since the specs are dang similar, would it help you any if I did so and reported results?

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#94 Post by rokytnji »

starhawk wrote:Hey, I've been thinking of seeing how Vanguard would run on my netbook... since the specs are dang similar, would it help you any if I did so and reported results?
No need to. I can download and run off SD card if I wish with a save while doing the unetbootin shuffle. Install grub4dos and blow away unnetbootin syslinux boot loader
on mbr of the SD card and I am off to the races.

Just bored while this cold front here blows through. So the shop is slow today.
:roll:

I got a feeling I'll need a new kernel although the touch screen on this rig is not the latest or greatest. Being a 2009 machine and all.

I will see what I will see I guess. If Vangaurd works OK for me. I'll be sure and post about it.

hamoudoudou

ennoying new Puppies

#95 Post by hamoudoudou »

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How Do I Know Which Puppy to Adopt?

#96 Post by Sweet Baby Jamie »

There are so many now! I'm sure they're all great, but for a newbie it's hard to know which Puppy I should try first. It would be awesome if someone wrote a little blog post or sticky post on Which Puppy to Adopt.

I have a really old Dell Dimension with 512 RAM and some kinda Celeron processor I don't know how fast. It's older than me, a hand-me-down from my parents when they got their new computer. It used to run Windows XP but I have LXLE on it now which is pretty fast. I even got my parents to dual-boot it because they love LXLE too!

But I tried Puppy for the first time today and it's like, Whoa, warp speed! Really cool. I chose Tahr 6.0.2 CE because it's based on Ubuntu so I thought it would be somewhat familiar. I wanted something I can show at the computer club at school that would be portable and fast. But there are so many other choices that I bet are just as awesome.

Maybe it could be categorized by:
  • hardware requirements / compatibility

    what they are built from Slackware, Ubuntu, Debian, whatever

    default applications (Libreoffice or Abiword, etc., or Firefox or Seamonkey or whatever)

    Availability and size of repositories

    whatever other categories
Just a little something to help a newbie choose? Some kind of guide would be super helpful for people adopting their first Puppy! Thanks

hamoudoudou

Tahr 6.0.2 CE is the right choice, for your DELL.

#97 Post by hamoudoudou »

Tahr 6.0.2 CE is the right choice, for your DELL, Sweet Baby Jamie .
Perhaps big enough for 512MB RAM...

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#98 Post by ally »

@ jamie

I have mirrored ALL the puppies I could find, most major distributions I have also mirrored the repository where I could

the repositories are not as complete as I would like but there is a lot there

go here: http://archive.org/details/puppylinux and you will find over 3500 pups and other goodies too

on the right of the page you will see a search box, type in slackware, debian etc and you will get some options, this is just a keyword search and required me to add that to the puppy page, I'm sure I have missed some though

I used to run slacko 5.3.3 on everything I had as it worked on everything I put it on and really well, my current go to is tahr (64), they will all have a slightly different personality so play with a few

if you have the recommended 'frugal' install you can dual boot in seconds

create a suitable folder, click on the downloaded ISO to expand it, copy all the files into the new folder, click the ISO file again to unmount it, run grub4dos and you're done

add more puppies and play!!

I have used puppy exclusively for around 8yrs now and probably boot windows twice a year and do not miss it, there are much prettier linux installs but nothing so simple and FAST as puppy

enjoy dude!!

:)

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#99 Post by Fossil »

@Sweet Baby Jamie.
There are so many now! I'm sure they're all great, but for a newbie it's hard to know which Puppy I should try first........
......I have a really old Dell Dimension with 512 RAM and some kinda Celeron processor.
Welcome to that very quirky little number. Mike Walsh and myself have the Dell 1100 - "the Dell from Hell!" It has some very anachronistic (lack of) capabilities! :twisted:
If only all computers were the same - but, they are not. Even the model dropped directly off the assembly line may contain a different chipset from the previous batch. This continues with sub-assemblies; video, sound, Internet, etc ; and you are working with a very different beast from the previous incarnation of only a few weeks ago. Add any extras - such as specialist video cards, more sound systems - anything, then it becomes very hard to quantify what will work for one computer system, then say it will work for another.

Pelo

slacko 5.3.3

#100 Post by Pelo »

I list 380 Puppies from the forum, but yesterday in sourceforge.net, i saw a lot of puppies unknown here.
Newbies, first, choose official ones, and small as Thin slacko 5.3.3, Racy 5.3, or Puppy 4.3.1
You shall test bigger in a second step...

3500 :!: "you will find over 3500 pups and other goodies too "

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#101 Post by mimimin »

380+ puppies...?
There can be some puppies created on very similar thoughts!
Guess less than approximately quarter of them is active and not few of them is discontinued.

Pelo

'discontinued', what does that mean ?

#102 Post by Pelo »

it's just like songs. Singers create new songs, but people like to listen old ones. My juke box now has 160 puppies active.
Valiant Puppy, Xfce, never has been replaced, and is still the best, in spite of Jejy69 stop to be a singer. ISOs are available for download, and users would help if any trouble. 'discontinued', what does that mean, if people keep it active ?
Barry Kauler retired from Puppy Linux, and puppy is still alive.

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#103 Post by sitdown »

Should not this sticky thread have a update on the first post by somebody who know the most important info of derivates, at least a link to a page?

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WHICH Puppy derivatives

#104 Post by azrielle »

I have narrowed my favorites down to two, because they both recognize my home wifi (using Jasper) from a variety of different laptop and netbook wifi cards, and use lightweight browsers "out of the box":
LxPup Tahr-15.12.1-pae (LXDE, pale moon web browser)
xslacko-slim-082816 (stripped down XFCE, VERY lightweight, yet still surprisingly functional; Midori web browser)

jss83

#105 Post by jss83 »

Which puppy uses this kernel: mt7601u_huge_slacko_PAE-k4.1.11.pet

I am tired of having to change it everytime I install puppy, or is there a way to change kernel inside the iso?

I am using tahr-6.0.5_noPAE and only this kernel supports the driver [mt7601u_slacko630-k4.1.11-x86_64.pet] needed for the wifi dongle. :x

Or any other puppy with mainstream kernels, like k4.9.x as explained here: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=106484

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#106 Post by rcrsn51 »

jss83 wrote:Which puppy uses this kernel: mt7601u_huge_slacko_PAE-k4.1.11.pet
That's confusing. I think you mean "Which Puppy uses this driver package"?

The huge_slacko_PAE-k4.1.11 kernel was an optional kernel built by 01micko for people who wanted to upgrade their Slacko kernel. No Puppy has it OOTB. If you want to use that driver PET, you must do a kernel change.
I am tired of having to change it everytime I install puppy, or is there a way to change kernel inside the iso?
I don't know what "it" means. Are you saying that you are familiar with the kernel-change procedure?
I am using tahr-6.0.5_noPAE and only this kernel supports the driver [mt7601u_slacko630-k4.1.11-x86_64.pet] needed for the wifi dongle.
Again confusing. You have a 32bit noPAE Puppy but are referring to a 64bit driver PET.

jss83

#107 Post by jss83 »

I want to use a puppy where I don't have to change the kernel right after I install it coz without changing it, no driver works and the wifi don't work.

Yes I can change the kernel with change_kernels in the terminal but .. I would prefer a puppy that has the driver already. Or.. maybe there's a way to add this kernel to the tahrpup iso, I don't know about that.

I copy pasted the wrong driver there.. sorry about that. I am using tahr-6.0.5_noPAE and I use change_kernels-1.0.pet to change the kernel to this kernel-modules.sfs-4.1.11-slacko_PAE and then I add this driver to use the wifi mt7601u_slacko630-k4.1.11.pet. Am I doing everything wrong? :?

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#108 Post by rcrsn51 »

jss83 wrote:Am I doing everything wrong?
No. You are using the correct procedure with this adapter and its driver.
I would prefer a puppy that has the driver already.
At the moment, I don't believe that ANY Puppy supports this device OOTB.
Or.. maybe there's a way to add this kernel to the tahrpup iso, I don't know about that.
You could change to the 4.9.13 xenial kernel that has the driver built-in. Then do a remaster of the ISO to contain the new kernel files.

jss83

#109 Post by jss83 »

I like the last part, not sure I know how to though, I tried to built a remastered cd long time back but I don't think I succeeded but I'll try again.

This one would work right huge-4.9.13-xenial_noPAE.tar.bz2 :shock:

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#110 Post by rcrsn51 »

jss83 wrote:I like the last part, not sure I know how to though, I tried to built a remastered cd long time back but I don't think I succeeded but I'll try again.
The program ISOMaster in the Multimedia menu does this. If you have trouble, ask for help in the Users section.
This one would work right huge-4.9.13-xenial_noPAE.tar.bz2
You will need to test it yourself to be sure. It is a big jump in kernels from your Tahrpup 605.

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