Minisys-Linux Muppy008 (dec, 20, 2007) / SP3 (jan, 13, 2008)

[MU]

Hi,

Hi my frugal Muppy008 has an issue..

I tried to change my locale to en_GB using the Puppy wizards and now icewm does not show up on startup, even after changing locale back to en_US.

If you need more information, would be glad to provide it.

Please examine the errorlog.

mp /tmp/xerrs.txt

Maybe that gives a hint.
I'll also have a look at that when I test the isos later today.
There was a similar error reported for french in the Muppy-build thread, but I was not able to reproduce it yet.
As an own build has many changes, it is good to see your report now.
This will be easier to reproduce I hope.

Also try to run by typing
xwin jwm
You then might be able to select icewm from the "windowmanager" menu.

Mark

[alcoheca]

Please examine the errorlog.

mp /tmp/xerrs.txt

Maybe that gives a hint.
I'll also have a look at that when I test the isos later today.
There was a similar error reported for french in the Muppy-build thread, but I was not able to reproduce it yet.
As an own build has many changes, it is good to see your report now.
This will be easier to reproduce I hope.

Also try to run by typing
xwin jwm
You then might be able to select icewm from the "windowmanager" menu.

Mark

hi Mark,

You're right, changing the window manager to jwm, restarting X then changing back to icewm has fixed that problem.

However I have another issue to do with the personal session file.

When I first installed Muppy, I had the option to save to a partition rather than a 2fs file, so I chose that as I would prefer it over a set size of storage file.

Muppy doesn't pick up the saved settings and each time I start, I need to set everything up again.

So I changed to saving to a 512MB 2fs file and now the settings are being saved, however my partition is also being mounted at /mnt/initrd/dev_save

Where are my settings being saved then?

also, I createda folder in /root, copied all my files there, and now when I restart the files can't be found there, only in /mnt/home. How should somebody go about storing their files with this kind of setup?

[alcoheca]

More info for last post,

# mount
rootfs on / type rootfs (rw)
/dev/hda2 on /initrd/mnt/dev_save type ext2 (rw,noatime)
/dev/loop1 on /initrd/pup_rw type ext2 (rw,noatime)
tmpfs on /initrd/mnt/tmpfs type tmpfs (rw)
/dev/loop0 on /initrd/pup_ro2 type squashfs (ro,noatime)
/dev/loop3 on /initrd/pup_ro3 type squashfs (ro,noatime)
unionfs on / type unionfs (rw,dirs=/initrd/pup_rw=rw:/initrd/pup_ro2=ro:/initrd/pup_ro3=ro)
tmpfs on /tmp type tmpfs (rw)
none on /proc type proc (rw)
shmfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
none on /dev/pts type devpts (rw)
none on /sys type sysfs (rw)
none on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)

###################################
Also, when I run 'DiskFree' from the desktop, nothing appears and I see this in the x error log. Seems to be related to my save file issue.
# cat /tmp/xerrs.log

Error in startup script: child process exited abnormally
while executing
"exec /bin/losetup-FULL /dev/loop1 | grep "/pup_save" | cut -f 2 -d "(" | cut -f 1 -d ")" | cut -f 4 -d "/" "
(procedure "df_check" line 11)
invoked from within
"df_check "
(file "/usr/sbin/partview" line 94)

[MU]

alcoheca :

When I first installed Muppy, I had the option to save to a partition rather than a 2fs file, so I chose that as I would prefer it over a set size of storage file.

Muppy doesn't pick up the saved settings and each time I start, I need to set everything up again.

I cannot tell you, why "save to partition" did not work.
I must test that on my own in the next days.
Until now I always used save-files, as they are easier to handle.

So I changed to saving to a 512MB 2fs file and now the settings are being saved, however my partition is also being mounted at /mnt/initrd/dev_save

Yes, shure.
The partition must be mounted, so that the save-file on it can be accessed.

/mnt/home is just a symbolic link to /initrd/mnt/dev_save, it is a nicer name.

So now your settings should be stored in the save-file (msy_save.2fs)

Also, when I run 'DiskFree' from the desktop, nothing appears and I see this in the x error log. Seems to be related to my save file issue.

Please see the reply above for nic2109, that fixes it.
I will upload Muppy008.1 today, where this is fixed besides several other glitches.
Mark

[alcoheca]

Sorry about missing that diskfree post, look forward to the new release
best,
Alasdair

[nic2109]

One teeny-weeny problemette however: http://etc.etc links in emails have no effect

just run sylpheed and open the configuration>Common Preferences>Details>External commands
and edit the Web Rowser statement to read

Code: Select all

/usr/local/bin/defaultbrowser -remote 'openURL(%s,new-window)'

This fix worked perfectly. Could it be put into the base system, or is there a reason for leaving it out?

Nick

[MU]

I currently have no default-configuration for sylpheed.
I fear if I add one, the "add new account" would not open at startup.

I should add a Info-Dialog that displays how to do it.
This could be launched together with sylpheed.
Mark

[nic2109]

The news on making URLs in emails work in sylpheed has moved on a bit.

The fix I quoted earlier does work, but only if you already have a browser session open. If not then you get the little green box saying 'a moment - starting web browser' but no browser appears.

Nick

[Tui]

I have d/led the latest version Minisys Myppy008.1-EN.iso and
all seems to go well. I would like to change the fonts
in the sub menus of the start menu as they look quit thick in
style. I have noted this with other versions of puppy. I like something
crisper. How can it be changed?

I have included a screenshot of a few other things found.
I would like to change the background colour where the wifi antenna
is at bottom right handside as it does not show up clearley

Also the MUT utility has text extending outside the rect box. Is this
a bug?

[MU]

fonts in menu:
edit
/root/.icewm/prefsoverride

MUT:
yes, this happened since a font I installed, that seems to look a bit clearer.
/usr/X11R7/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/
There the Vera-fonts.
I think before, the text was smaller.
I will try to search where to set it in mut.tcl.

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The Wifi-antenna:
Is it still dark after you restart X?
It is a problem with the tray, that the backgroundcolor does not change, if you use a different icewm-theme.
Just after restarting X it is set.
Which application is this?

Mark

[MU]

MUT:
edit /usr/lib/mut/mut.tcl

change:
Line 1219

Code: Select all

	.boxc create text [expr "$x1 + 4"] $y1 -anchor nw -text $tex -fill $colour -font {Helvetica -10 bold}

to:

Code: Select all

 	.boxc create text [expr "$x1 + 4"] $y1 -anchor nw -text $tex -fill $colour -font {Helvetica -9 bold} 

I'll add this in the next version.
Mark

[Barburo]

Hi Mark
Have you had time to look at this bug (from Dec 20th)

2. The analog clock always resets to the same initial position - it doesn't remember where I move it.

I use wide screen monitors and the clock is always reset to the initial position

[MU]

Barburo,
please exit the clock with a right-click.
That will save the position.
I soon will relese an updated version, that remembers the position after every move.

If that does not work, you might have found a bug.
Then try to set the position with an editor (while the clock is not running) in
/root/.GtkBasic-Analogclock/windowposition.txt

Mark

[Barburo]

Thanks Mark,
Yes that does it. (I should have experimented a bit more!)
A question: I use muppy008 on an HP Pavilion laptop tx1000 model that I tweaked the xorg.confile to get the correct 1280x800 resolution working by adding an extra "screen" section. The laptop uses an nvidia card. Muppy's nvidia install worked flawlessly. I also use a 22" wide screen external monitor, and I can plug-in the monitor to an already-running Muppy session and it displays the full screen resolution (something like 1800x1600) perfectly. No restarts, no extra specification for the new screen size and resolution. I didn't need to do anything. How does this work?

[MU]

I can't tell you, how it works.
The Nvidia-installer uses an own utility to build xorg.conf.
So the xorg.conf from Puppys xorgwizard is overwritten by the Nvidia-installer (I had to tweak Puppy, so that it does not destroy again the new xorg.conf by Nvidia).
I commented some lines in /usr/X11R7/bin/xwin to remove Puppys Hardware-profiling, that would remove the new xorg.conf.
I added a comment to that part around line 181.

Mark

[Sage]

Mark: Mini-Muppy008-2EN is a beautiful piece of work - thank you.
Having difficulty loading a driver for RTL8100 on an old MSI6378. It doesn't load automatically and none of the usual (eg 8139, which seems to work for a lot of Realtek) drivers, incl the NE2K generic load, either. I looked through your 'More' tab, none of those options worked. I typed in RTL8100 and was surprised to see 'failed to load' rather than 'not available'. Probably I've missed something? Appreciate some guidance, please. If I have to load foreign files, please can I have very detailed instructions about where to find them, exactly what to do, etc!

Supplementaries:
The standard Minsiys 008-2 starts up OK with only 128Mb main memory + swap, but doesn't seem to use much swap on larger apps, loading the cpu cycles instead? This slows things down a lot. Farming out the tasks between main, swap and cpu seems less than optimal? Adding RAM isn't a problem, but this observation seems curious.

'Lame' and 'pitiful' have extremely negative connotations in English. Is this word choice a consequence of translation or an huge joke?!
Only the Trash and Xlock icons remain overlapping (800x600 - rather more in the 640x480 default preferred by BK).
Icedock: selecting 'full screen' caused everything to lock up!

[canezilla]

Hi. I would like to start by saying that I hope I am posting this in the correct area. Second, I am so thankful that I found the greatest distro ever; Muppy 008. As an elementary music teacher, I finally found my solution to what I need day-to-day (using different school computers via ram, USB drive and boot CD).

Running a KDE sfs has given me Amarok. I depend on this for quick categorization of my music library. Whohooo!!

Amarok is broke, however, in the newest version of KDE 3.10 sfs. So I have gone back to 3.58 sfs. Is there something I need to adjust to fix Amarok in the new KDE sfs?

Thanks to all that is involved in this project!

Brian

[MU]

Hi Brian,

for Muppy 0084c please use this thread:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=33542


I'll reply to your question here:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 043#237043

thanks, Mark