pBurn 4.3.19

[zigbert]

Why not do what programs like VLC are doing? Provide a set of 'basic' (simplified) options by default... and if someone wants to mess with the settings in more depth, they can switch the options to an 'advanced' selection.

I know I'd prefer the full filesystem choice, over the 'three choice' version (but that's just me).

The new way of thinking (my way ) is that
- Rockridge is always added - no harm
- The new isolevel 4 actually supports large files, so no need of UDF which is in any case bad supported on Linux. Isolevel 4 supports recent windows systems.
- Joliet is only a valid choice for isolevel 3 (win 95/98 ), so after all, this is no option.

With this in mind I don't find any reason for keeping the old options.


Please correct me!
Sigmund

[zigbert]

Would it make sense to change "Others" to something like "really old systems"?

Could be, but is DOS the only system that not fits in the other options? If so, we should mention other OS's as well.


Sigmund

[disciple]

I don't know the details of what requires 8.3 naming - I wouldn't be surprised if even DOS has an extension that doesn't (remember, DOS needs an extension to have any CD support). It is quite possible that there are no Pburn users that require 8.3 naming, so whether you say "DOS" or "Really old systems" or something, I don't think it matters. Just as long as the name won't make people think they might need it in case they want to the disk on a modern Mac, or BSD or Haiku or something.

[Makoto]

Okay, so I didn't really take into account that some filesystems aren't supported as well (read/write) under Linux. Still...

I'd still wonder if there should be something 'simple' in the choices for those who just want to insert a blank disc and burn it, while at the same time, more complex choices for those who want to control every fine detail about the burn.

[zigbert]

Just as long as the name won't make people think they might need it in case they want to the disk on a modern Mac, or BSD or Haiku or something.

Is a disc written by pBurn in any cases readable in Mac, BSD or Haiku?

[01micko]

I can vouch for mac OS-X snow-leopard, and boot's too.

[zigbert]

I can vouch for mac OS-X snow-leopard, and boot's too.

So HFS is not required for Mac?


Sigmund

[don570]

Rockridge format for DVD is the best for Mac users
but Joliet works as well. Older formats like HFS still work on a Mac DVD drive
probably ?? but I haven't tested on recent Macs.

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[01micko]

I just booted a macbook air with slacko-5.5 burnt with Pburn from an external CD drive. AFAIK, HFS is the old mac filesystem, currently HFSPLUS is the filesystem on the system disk. (I mounted it ro in slacko, but that is too off topic, Makato, see PM soon).

Previously, we had a vanilla macbook (circa 2009, w/Superdrive) that handled disks burnt with Pburn just fine.

HTH

[zigbert]

Here is next try

[disciple]

I think it would be best to avoid slang expressions, for the sake of people with less English Maybe you could say something like this (although I guess translators would then need to find out what term is actually used for "Level 1" in their languages):
Old "Level 1" standard (8.3 naming)

Regarding Macs, from the information I've seen, only pre-OSX Macs should require HFS, and then they may require the -part option as well. But I don't have one to test, and I'm wondering if they even require more work.

[zigbert]

I think it would be best to avoid slang expressions, for the sake of people with less English Maybe you could say something like this (although I guess translators would then need to find out what term is actually used for "Level 1" in their languages):
Old "Level 1" standard (8.3 naming)

You're right!
Could it be just "Old standard (8.3 naming)"?

[disciple]

Sure, but personally I prefer "very old" or "really old"

[don570]

Here's how the wikki describes it

The standard has three different levels for files, here paraphrased from section 10:
Level 1: File names are limited to eight characters with a three-character extension, using upper case letters, numbers and underscore only. The maximum depth of directories is eight.
Level 2: File names are not limited to 11 characters (the 8.3 format) but can be up to the maximum allowed by the 1 byte counter in the directory entry and the filename length byte counter. Typically, this is close to 180 characters, depending on how many extended attributes are present.
Level 3: Files are allowed to be non-contiguous (i.e., fragmented), principally to allow packet writing or incremental CD recording.

So I would suggest "Old format -8.3 file naming (not recommended)"
or

"8.3 file naming (not recommended)"


You should discourage people from using that format,
since it radically changes the file names so that
it becomes difficult to recognize the file again.

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[01micko]

Another 2c
DOS 8.3 naming (deprecated)

[Jades]

Feature Request
It doesn't appear to be possible to filter file windows to specific filetypes such as .iso files. See attached screen grab from attempting to import an ISO on Pburn 3.7.18 - the actual ISOs were quite a way down the list.

With regard to the discussion on changing burn option windows, I note that zigbert's example grab shows a nice Info button and an Advanced tab. The latter would be a handy place for explicitly stating the burn options where the simplified options won't suffice for the target system.

[Jades]

Another 2c
DOS 8.3 naming (deprecated)

That's too OS-specific, some older versions of RISC OS will also only read CDs with 8.3 naming. IIRC native Joliet support only came in with RISC OS 4.x. The relevant filing system is CDFS so "DOS" is meaningless in that context.

Just having it as "8.3 naming (deprecated)" will do - it's succinct and one can make a reasonable assumption that only people that know they need it are likely to select it anyway.

[disciple]

The latter would be a handy place for explicitly stating the burn options where the simplified options won't suffice for the target system.

Yes, but I don't think they need checkboxes and things for them. If there's an unusual combination of options someone knows they want to use, then allowing them to manually edit the command should be sufficient.

[zigbert]

Feature Request
It doesn't appear to be possible to filter file windows to specific filetypes such as .iso files. See attached screen grab from attempting to import an ISO on Pburn 3.7.18 - the actual ISOs were quite a way down the list.

It is possible to filter the content of the file-window, BUT that requires opening the file-window from an entry+button. Not from a menuitem as when import iso-image. (If this sounds like non-sense and bullshit, I totally agree with you. But it is still the way how gtkdialog works ). It could maybe be fixed by a invisible entry+button that are called from the menuitem, but at the same time, I want to keep the code uncluttered.


Sigmund

[disciple]

Does thunor know about that issue?