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What features/apps/bugfixes needed in a future Puppy
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#211 Post by willem1940NLD »

Present Menu List in facilities like "open with"; same in browsers (for media players etc.).

Same in (pet) "Startmount", programs tab.

Examples: I would like to have skype and pidgin always automatically starting up with Puppy.

nitrofurano
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some problems after full install

#212 Post by nitrofurano »

-multiuser configuration: when doing full install, the puppylinux on hd is logged in defaultly as root, when shouldn't - also a simple tool for adding, editing and removing users is very welcome

-xdm or similar: puppylinux needs a login display, maybe gdm is too heavy for a distro like PuppyLinux, xdm (or other even lighter) would be more appropriated - optionally, an automatic login (without having to type login and password, just like on Ubuntu)

-timeout on grub: grub on PuppyLinux has no timeout, which remains ad aeternum on that grub display...

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#213 Post by nitrofurano »

would be great if next PuppyLinux comes with better arrangement of JWM config files:
- ~/.jwmrc only with <Include> and <StartupCommand> entry tags, calling files from '~/.jwm/' directory
- in '~/.jwm/' directory, files like 'config', 'keybindings', 'menu', 'startupitems' and 'theme'

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#214 Post by willem1940NLD »

Read about "Firefly", kind of confusing name since it seems to (have) be(en) used for more than 1 program.

I mean the filebrowser addon, rather bêta, which was sometimes mentioned for firefox 3/down.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/3076/

I have been hoping for quite some time that a (small) linux distro would appear built around both Firefox and VLC player (so far not really friendly with each other even).

Maybe the Puppy designers could spend some thought to it?

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#215 Post by ragaman »

I wish that the next puppy release will full Bluetooth utilities that work.

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#216 Post by Aitch »

willem1940NLD wrote:I have been hoping for quite some time that a (small) linux distro would appear built around both Firefox and VLC player (so far not really friendly with each other even).
Try this

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefo ... %20plugins

[Doesn't work with 3.6.8]

Aitch :)

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#217 Post by willem1940NLD »

Aitch wrote:
willem1940NLD wrote:I have been hoping for quite some time that a (small) linux distro would appear built around both Firefox and VLC player (so far not really friendly with each other even).
Try this

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefo ... %20plugins

[Doesn't work with 3.6.8]

Aitch :)
Outdated;
Not available for your platform
Not available for Firefox 3.6.6
But I already disposed of the VLC pet. Recent VLC does not work well with ALSA and older VLC are of less use.

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#218 Post by Aitch »

Prompted by this response....
steven_e007 wrote:There's a manual?!!! :shock:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 779#445779

YES!! A Manual!

http://www.puppylinux.org/main/index.ph ... nglish.htm

Big thanks to Grant/Smokey01!!

Psst....any chance of updating it from 4.1.2, smokey?

Is it possible to make this 'Puppy Manual' info available on screen where people download, or actually within a new puppy, even if only as a link....& even if the user can't get online, as they may still have access to the net elsewhere, to help them with many questions which crop up trying to get something unfamiliar sorted

Seems like a good idea....surprised it's not more well focused on/referred to

Aitch :)

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#219 Post by willem1940NLD »

"Updating" even from 501 to 510, gives (small) differences with clean install.

510 meantime has a working VLC pet.

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#220 Post by smokey01 »

Aitch wrote: YES!! A Manual!

http://www.puppylinux.org/main/index.ph ... nglish.htm

Big thanks to Grant/Smokey01!!

Psst....any chance of updating it from 4.1.2, smokey?
It's coming and based on 5.1

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#221 Post by Aitch »

In an email exchange....
Aitch wrote:What do you think of my suggestion to have a link to 'your' manual within new/existing puppies?
Smokey01 wrote:I like the idea and I guess if the developers agree then it will happen
Had to post it Grant, as its too important to remain hidden, IMHO, hope that's OK with you?

Now the devs have no excuse

Puppy Users: Add your support to get the manual or at least a link included in puppy releases - it just MAY help some noobs get [more] things working, thanks

Aitch :)

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#222 Post by technosaurus »

Any distro hoppers out there wanting to help out, so that we don't reinvent the wheel?

Austrumi is another light distro worth checking out for some goode ideas
http://cyti.latgola.lv/ruuni/#

Tiny Core isn't really a "distro" but more of a build base (with currently no distros worth mentioning based on it ), however most of their *.tcz files will work with Puppy if you rename them to *.sfs - try out some of their stuff, you may find a gem. ftp://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dist ... x/3.x/tcz/

Slitaz uses the same backend as puppy for many of their GUIs (gtkdialog). Maybe some of the Slitaz "box apps" can find their way into Puppy. http://www.slitaz.org/en/doc/cookbook/slitaz-tools.html

Goblinx used to use gtkdialog but has become imagineos and I can't seem to find the gtkdialog scripts posts - maybe the last release iso of goblinx has them?

once a distro gets above ~200mb they seem to dump gtkdialog in favor of pygtk (its not any slower than gtkdialog - just larger), but we do have some relatively small and fast alternatives:
yad/zenity
gtk-server
Xdialog
so if you create/find/know of any good implementations of those - please point them out in one of the development threads

jwm setups - we had this discussion in the Pupngo thread and determined that each configuration type should probably have its own dot file and an include for it, to make external configuration and backups easier to handle

as for xdm - all that is needed is a GUI script that has all those inputs
... just add the script into the .xinitrc in place of the window manager
I did this before with Xdialog and 3 lines of code - can't find it now but I think I posted it in one of the multiuser pup threads

multiuser ..."puppylinux on hd is logged in defaultly as root, when shouldn't" - I disagree - on first login you will more likely than not, need to do changing/configuring/installing of some kind - this allows you to get those necessities done and then it is up to you to stay as root or not for current and subsequent sessions... but standard puppy isn't really designed for that anyways - only grafpup and pizzasgood's pupplets AFAIK
is autologinroot the issue?

.4fs and extensions - some extensions are specific to puppy and require updates to files in /usr/share/mime, but for many things you can right click on a file and it will let you set run action to a program/script name or adapt a similar script

autostart - to make a program autostart just make a symlink to its executable in /root/Startup (or $HOME/Startup for multiuser systems) It wouldn't be too hard to throw together a gui for this, but I thought Zigbert already had it in the Puppy Control Center.
Check out my [url=https://github.com/technosaurus]github repositories[/url]. I may eventually get around to updating my [url=http://bashismal.blogspot.com]blogspot[/url].

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hardisk backup software which support GUI

#223 Post by SXiPRATEEK »

i wish for hardisk backup /restore / view software capabel of partition cloning & copy restore mbr

with GUI.

currently i am using drive snapshot(298kb) www.drivesnapshot.de/en/
it is working fine & fast
but it works only from windows.
so if a opensource alternative which suport cross platform

thanks

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wallpaper & taskbar menu & theme icons are not appealing

#224 Post by SXiPRATEEK »

the wallpaper used in 5.x & theme icons used & taskbar is not so appealing as in previous version.

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preloaded wine will increase its value & popularity

#225 Post by SXiPRATEEK »

puppy has everything but if wine is preloaded then it will me much better

thanks

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i cant find how to compile using gcc or install deb

#226 Post by SXiPRATEEK »

i cant find how to compile using gcc or install deb
what more files are needed for this

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#227 Post by Pizzasgood »

If you have a new idea shortly after making a post, and nobody has replied yet, it's generally considered bad manners to create another post (and worse to create a whole string of posts).

The more accepted thing to do is to edit the existing post, so that you just make one. There is an edit button in the upper-right of each post your make.

This applies in most forums on the internet, as well.

(Good to learn these things here where people are friendly, because many other places on the net are rather caustic....)

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As for compiling, the development environment isn't included with Puppy to save space. It is available as a separate download. For Puppy 5.1, it is available here:
ftp://ftp.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distrib ... puppy-5.1/
The file you want is the lupu_devx_510.sfs one. Instructions for using a .sfs module are all over the forum. Basically, unless you have a Full install, just drop it onto the base of the harddrive that has your save-file, use Puppy's boot-manager to enable it, and reboot.
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easier (re-)mounting of network drives

#228 Post by darkduck »

I have network drive connected by cable to my wifi router, and I connect via wifi to this drive. It was not so easy for me to make it re-connect each time Puppy starts. It would be much better if this could happen automatically or easy-configurable for newbies.

The script which I finally composed can be found here:
http://forum.puppyrus.org/index.php/top ... l#msg39919
It has some "debug" information which I put into local file, that bit is not very important.
Sorry that discussion is in Russian, but script "evolution" can be easily tracked throughout the thread. Otherwise I can give details/translation.

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Heres what aps I use

#229 Post by vectoravtech »

Heres a screenshot of allot of programs I use, Gfire pidgin addon to use xfire which is a chat client gamers use, Skype, Freerapid which is a downloader from major players like rapidshare and it just works with java without installing it, Xchat, firefox, and gimp. If you want a native option theres a chat client in most Linux repos called: centium that isn't susceptible to the recently found exploits by Lee the Yepic programmer but for chatroom filtering and booter protection Yepic would be my choice.
YEpic is allot trickier because it requires wine and a fontfix.exe as well as winetricks and ie 6 to work properly. Here's the Yepic site if you want to see if it's worth adding: http://yepic.co.uk/
and here's the steps to install it in linux which would be awsome if it was preinstalled or at least an easier method to click and turn it on without going through all the steps mentioned here: http://www.opensourcerage.com/
and here's a warning To Any Booter [Warning: Potentially offensive material inside]: http://www.yepic.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=813.0


Image

Sorry the picture is so big but this way you can see the entire desktop and I had trouble resizing it on tinypic so I left it as is. The gimp I used that has all these extra fill textures by default is gimp-2.4.6.pet from http://www.puppylinux.ca/tpp/bugs/gimp-2.4.6.pet if your wondering. I redid my pupsave by rebooting and pressing F2 and typing: puppy pfix=ram so I booted directly from the custom dvd I created and added the chatzilla firefox addon for irc and havnt tryed installing the gimp or install java.
If you want to see my avatar in the larger pictureheres the link: http://i53.tinypic.com/5dor5k.jpg
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Puppy Linux Wish List

#230 Post by wabbit »

I see in the release notes for Puppy 4.3
http://www.puppylinux.com/download/release-4.3.htm
that you plan to drop Geany in favor of NicoEdit.

I'd like to strongly request that you do not make this change
1. Geany can open multiple files, and keep them in Tabs; NicoEdit not
2. Geany code-collapse feature ; NicoEdit not

I suspect there are more differences as well.
Second this request. Geany also has a lot of plugins that make it a dynamite little editor for multiple computer languages. Of course, if you exclude it from the install, surely you would make it available as a pet.

Okay, high on my wish list is for jwm config and icon switcher to handle multiple pages.

Perhaps even integrate GTK2 themes, icon switcher, jwm themes, and wallpaper into one app similar to stu90's puppy.look version that basically allows you to make four choices and set the overall appearance of puppy.

Of course, if you wanted to go true puppy.look (across-the-board ... not just jwm), the app would have to accommodate whatever window manager you were using at the time.

Hope to see some of these on the next go-round. If any are available now, and I have missed them, please point me in the right direction.

Thanks for asking.
Wudy

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