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PostPosted: Sat 23 Feb 2019, 16:31    Post subject: Re: Barebones  

mikeslr wrote:
Just a barebones of any flavor Puppy, perhaps having as "User-Apps" only a terminal and geany; but having access to a repo and all the necessary infra-structure applications for a user to take it from that state to wherever (s)he wants.

The terminals can be relatively nice/functional with just a few relatively small programs. tmux (multiple windows, split windows into panes (that you can zoom/unzoom). cmus music player, mc file manager and text editor, lynx terminal web browser. For the rest, startx and dotpup (or sfs get).

Actual image of my ctrl-alt-F2 terminal (taken using fbcat/fbgrab). [I have video-800x600 kernel boot parameter hence the 'actual' image size].
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PostPosted: Sat 23 Feb 2019, 17:24    Post subject: Re: Barebones  

rufwoof wrote:
mikeslr wrote:
Just a barebones of any flavor Puppy, perhaps having as "User-Apps" only a terminal and geany; but having access to a repo and all the necessary infra-structure applications for a user to take it from that state to wherever (s)he wants.

The terminals can be relatively nice/functional with just a few relatively small programs. tmux (multiple windows, split windows into panes (that you can zoom/unzoom). cmus music player, mc file manager and text editor, lynx terminal web browser. For the rest, startx and dotpup (or sfs get).

Actual image of my ctrl-alt-F2 terminal (taken using fbcat/fbgrab). [I have video-800x600 kernel boot parameter hence the 'actual' image size].


it's true. a lot of developers includes in their new puppy's/puplets some browsers don't useful for each one because the human is an custom animal... links2 is small (as small as lynx but can be used as graphic browser with pictures or without only in CLI). if you wish only a browser only for webpages (man pages in html code) you can use rhapsody if you find the source, it compile also easily in 64 version (ab. 70 kb!). it is old but this is no problem on simple html code in English. so no need to install a browser which the most users will not accept and making a need to desinstall (if in the list of desinstallable app's, it is not always so) and actualise all the pointers for a acceptable browser, tosay accepting HTML5 and youtube Idea . better only rhapsody, links (CLI mode only) or links2 (4 mb like lynx Wink but both CLI and graphic mode, in graphic mode with active pictures) as all the never more actual midori, light etc.

a barbone would make each puppy full environment more perfect and is an important intermediary step of development...

CLI app's well working in console:

- files and tree management with clex and or ranger (ranger with text previews! clex is useful to avoid to write long addresses in complex trees using F2)

- texteditor nano. nano is a bridge between CLI and gaphic mode as you can interchange with graphic mode app's using the mouse. experts in nano will probably never change it for a more complex editor. spell checking is possible. HTML 4 in CLI gives access to divers format codes without graphic mode. you can see the success in links / links2 !

- sc, the venerable spreadsheet, extremely small (for those rarely using an spreadsheet often fully enough! Idea but not able to play with special char's from foreign languages)

- above named browsers

- didiwiki in those browsers Wink (why not? start if necessary in cli didiwiki ; and after that in the browser invoque http://localhost: 8000 or 8080. you can build youself pages for your selfmade calender etc. didiwiki is a good smart writing editor with fat, italic, underlined writing stile [url]and can also host pictures[/url]! Links / links2 and didiwiki are a wonderful base to work seriously in CLI! the text are compact and the saving happens in simple text format!

- cups, yes cups is simply using in CLI mode. save the *.ppd file of you own printer and you have a compact installation not needing some gutenprint filters. it is the perfect helper for didiwiki in links / links2 !

- alsa stuff!

- samba. yes samba does not really need some graphic mode!

hum ...

- also arachnee, the graphic browser in CLI linux systems through the svgalib ?

why not?

(I know: it is very difficult to be happy with the codes needing to manage the screen... a complete actualisation would be needing!)

- latex and all the stuff for professional writing and print books and long texts or music scores? why not? the German mathematician Emil did give us stuff at the murga-linux/puppy forum (take care, those *.sfs are very heavy!)

- development environments for a lot of program languages from basic and Forth to the most complex AI languages through really classical like C, Pascal etc. ...

we can do more in CLI mode as it's appear if you are not really attentive!
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