wjaguar wrote:ttuuxxx wrote:when it comes to plugins Gimp wins over mt paint
Agreed, naturally - but this is not "quality", this is featureset. Which is an entirely different thing.
But Photoshop CS3 kills Gimp
Agreed again - this is one reason why I became involved with mtPaint; I needed an image editor doing a better job than GIMP is capable of, and GIMP's codebase is too unwieldy for my taste.
plus everyone is entitled to their own personal opinion and that is mine.
And here, I have to disagree. No one is entitled to lying in public about other people's work.
-= With best regards, Dmitry Groshev, maintainer of mtPaint =-
One thing I don't do buddy is Lie, Around Half of the .xpm format's found in ICEWM start menu buttons you can not edit with mtPaint, But with a little program on windows called "Icon Lover" You can, Basically I build my images with CS3 and save them as PSD, Since photoshop for some stupid reason doesn't support XPM either, Then I open the PSD with "Icon Lover" and save them as XPM. The reason why I don't use Linux for it? Because MtPaint,Gimp,Inkscape,Cinepaint,Xara, Can't do it. Period full stop. Also the Image quality is extremely excellent, So much better then converting from PSD-->PNG---XPM
If you are a maintainer of MtPaint why not take it out of the stone ages, Really isn't the windows 3.1 era of paint applications a thing of the past, I know Microsoft is hooked on basic looking paint packages but they did help out a little program called Paint.Net
http://www.getpaint.net/screenshots.html
yes its a free paint program for windows, but it has been ported to Linux with mono, But really bit of a pain to do.
Why is it that you have a potential of pleasing the whole Linux community and don't?
Paint.Net has won tons of awards for what it does, Its like #19 out top 100 windows applications from pc world.
The Only difference between Paint.Net and Mtpaint is basically looks, and use of functionality, Why couldn't you give Mtpaint a look and feel of of a basic Photoshop or Paint.Net? Paint.net did and look how far they grew with just a few short years.
Couldn't you have a compression slidebar that gives you real-time results.? Thats one thing I don't like about Mtpaint, Its not precise, you do a few adjustments when you go to save it and have no clue what it looks like until you actually save it and reopen it.
At the end of the day you can shoot your mouth off as much as you want, But If you wake up to the fact that MtPaint Has tons of potential and could be looked upon as an up and coming Photoshop for linux alternative which is a very huge want by around 90% of ex-Windows users, Or Just another run of the mill windows 3.1 Paint program. You decide, all you would need is to
- swallow your pride
- Get a compression slide bar with realtime image preview.
- A proper Layers windows, with the possibility of changing image transparencies/fading color levels/drag and drop movement of layers with a possibility of tiny image previews or naming scheme.
- Nice color wheel that isn't hidden, That can be permanently docked on the right side with the layers menus, same size. So when you open mtpaint you see the layers and color wheel
- Nice tool bar side panel with tools that actually Look like the Adobe counterparts. (this is where gimp truly fails. People spend years on Photoshop, They teach it in schools etc, Then people come to Linux for a look and everybody says," If you looking for a Photoshop type tool use GIMP!", What a joke anybody and everybody says," what is this #$#@$", It looks nothing like Photoshop. etc and then they walk away disappointed. Unlike Mtpaint they feel at home with paint. But seriously think about it, Just a few minor changes and your program would be on every Linux pc, not just because it looks good, but because it small size, Quick Loading and people can relate to it.
Prime example a pole on LinuxQuestions.org that has a permanent sticky
" What programs would you like to see ported to Linux?"
Top of the list every time Photohop&Dreamweaver
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions ... ux-105955/
Why because they are excellent programs. Linux alternatives listed above for the Photoshop and for Dreamweaver grrrr NVU/Compozer.
Let me guess your part of the NVU/Compozer team also?
If so install a descant Ftp Program like Fire FTP (Firefox plugin, small but works excellent:) And do something about the CSS system.
I am just personally tired of Using Adobe programs for Mac and Windows only, Because the Linux alternatives are confusing / Not as functional/ about 10yrs behind. Sure it might easy for the younger Generation to grasp the Linux alternatives but people in their30's + with families and Jobs etc don't really want to start all over again. I personally can use the Linux versions because I sat down and forced myself, Where as my wife says "No Way am I learning that, It was bad enough to learn others in school!"
Hope this helps
ttuuxxx