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#736 Post by Trobin »

For what it's worth, the talk script does not work with console programs. However, it does a fine job with Seamonkey and Abiword.I've yet to try copying highlighted data from a console to the xclipboard. However copying data from this forum into the xclipboard and running talk in a console so I could listen to it as i read it, was a good thing.
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#737 Post by Atle »

have you made some approach towards organisations that are for blind people? Like to have it tested by a number of people?

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#738 Post by Trobin »

Earlier versions were shopped around o various blind oriented mailing lists. If anyone did try it no one got back to me.
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#739 Post by Atle »

That can mean it simply works... I had near 50 downloads of one simple spinnoff and not a word.

I think it needs to be marketed as well... Its as simple as that.

But how many percent ready is it?

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#740 Post by Trobin »

Perhaps, but it would have been nice to know that it simply worked.
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#741 Post by Trobin »

One of the problems i have in getting re-involved with this project is that the apps I once used, such as java1506.pup, no longer as they once did. java1506.pup no longer links to the java version it was programmed to. The java version given in the ibiblio archives, for puppies 2 -4, does play nice with yasr.

It was nreplaced with jre-1.6.0_13. Which works with Freetts and YASR on a fresh install of Puppy 4.31
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#742 Post by Atle »

Actually this kind of technology goes beyond blind people. I would think if your out in space, like ISS and in lots of other weird environments.

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#743 Post by Trobin »

Perhaps, but certainly not what i have sitting on my hard drive.

Puppy 431 with mp/e3, freetts, yasr, flite, ircii, elinks, ytree, cdplay, and mplayer. Add tmux, and a few bash scripts, all, or most, of them can be found on this thread, take out the X symlink and the thing just needs to be tweaked.
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#744 Post by technosaurus »

Atle wrote:Actually this kind of technology goes beyond blind people. I would think if your out in space, like ISS and in lots of other weird environments.
Like an actually useful way of using a watch phone... after you add a bluetooth headset and some VR glasses of course.
Check out my [url=https://github.com/technosaurus]github repositories[/url]. I may eventually get around to updating my [url=http://bashismal.blogspot.com]blogspot[/url].

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#745 Post by Trobin »

Found a copy of Speak3pup.iso, thanks Ally for archiving it.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 92&t=26863

Downloaded it, played with it, and remembered why, if it ever became necessry, I would prefer edbrowse. If i ever became blind.
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#746 Post by Trobin »

After playing around with Speak3pup for a while I think I'll leave it the way it is. i can browse the interweb, listen to audiofiles, send email, write a note, and do most, if not all, without leaving Edbrowse. Which Speak3pup will automatically boot into. unless, of course, someone has booted it, typed 'Q' to exit Edbrowse and entered the "xorgwizard" command to set up the windowing system. Which, I admit, has to be done if one wants to use puppy's setup to connect to the internet, or do something else that is easier done through th xwindowing system. once done, go to /usr/X11R6/bin and remove the "x' symlink. Reboot and Speak3pup will boot as usual

Your File download link is:
http://www.fast-files.com/getfile.aspx?file=111836

For those wishing to give it a try.

Edited to add that i know that it is based on an older version of puppy but it does what i would want it to do..
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#747 Post by Trobin »

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#748 Post by Trobin »

Any wonder I like puppy 2.17. It isn't that I haven't tried newer versions of puppy. The only version of edbrowse that i hae successfully gotten to work in 431 is a static build. which is fine except that there is a missing companion file and how do i attach security files to it?

Tried various versions of edbrowse on wary 5.5 from 3.3.5 to the latest 3.61. Most won't 'make' Missing jsdom.o, or missing sendmail.o errors, depending on the version.

I installed jsdom. Didn't matter. Still got the same answer.

except for Edbrowse 3.41 the lubuntu version. It installed. Then decided that a command in line six wasn't working because I didnt have xulrunner installed. I downloaded xulrunner, installed it, and tried Edbrowse again. Guess what it can not find.

If I ever do get that figured out, there's still a lib file to track down. Because edbrowse can't find it.

Puppy 2.17 may be way old but it worked.

edit - or did then
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#749 Post by Trobin »

I have half a mind to think that Orca can be made to work in Librepup. I downloaded and installed the trisquel(sp) package. Only needed one dependancy. Libsjon-c.so.2 Installed it. Opened a terminal and ran orca -t. got a whole list of errors in the python scripts. Have no idea how to fix them.
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#750 Post by Atle »

Your efforts are great as a software that does what you make it do, often cost a ton of cash and leaves the majority, the poor left with nothing...

So this is a great project...

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#751 Post by Trobin »

Atle wrote:Your efforts are great as a software that does what you make it do, often cost a ton of cash and leaves the majority, the poor left with nothing...

So this is a great project...
I would expect that there are government/private efforts that may assist with the costs.
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#752 Post by Trobin »

It looks like Librepup may not be the base of my next efort. Not because Librepupu, when it works as expected, is not an excellent Operating System but I can no longer assume that it will boot to the desktop instead of presenting me with meaningless garbage. Though I suppose it would make sense to somebody.

However, should someone care to give it a shot, and has a good Librepup, all the files needed for a basic system can be found in the trisquel(sp) repository. Flite, eflite, and yasr. Install flite and eflite work together but install flite first. Yasr needs to be told where to find eflite. Make the changes indicated below to yasr.conf

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# Uncomment one of these lines as appropriate
#synthesizer=speakout
#synthesizer=dectalk
#synthesizer=doubletalk
#synthesizer=bns
#synthesizer=apollo
synthesizer=emacspeak server
#synthesizer=speech dispatcher
#synthesizer port=S0
#synthesizer port=l0
synthesizer port=|/usr/bin/eflite
# Below line appropriate for Speech Dispatcher in its default configuration
#synthesizer port=127.0.0.1:6560
key echo=off
shell=/bin/bash
special=off
up and down arrows=speak line
DisableKey=6925
and save. Copy the modified yasr.conf to the root directory and rename that file to .yasr.conf

This will not work in anything but command line apps To tst in a command line program ope, enter yasr, then the name of the app
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#753 Post by Trobin »

Wanted to be sure this idn't get lost. As it is ore of the next speakpup release

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 #!/bin/bash
dat=`date +%H`
morning=12
afternoon=15
evening=24

if [ $dat -le $morning ] 
then
       flite "Good morning sir"

elif [ $dat -gt $morning ] && [ $dat -le $afternoon ]
then
        flite "Good afternoon sir"

elif [ $dat -gt $afternoon ] && [ $dat -le $evening ]
then
        flite "Good evening sir"
fi
flite "Please make a selection from the following list."
flite "Thank You"

while :
do
  echo
  echo "1. Browser"
  echo "2. ymail"
  echo "3. Text Editer"
  echo "4. Audio"
  echo "5. Firelog"
  echo "6. Bash shell Please type exit to return to menu"
  echo "7. Reboot computer"
  echo "8. Power off"
  echo "9. Quit"
  echo
  echo "Make your choice"
  echo
  read choice
  case $choice in
    '1') 
        lynx
        ;;
    '2')
        mutt
    ;;
    '3')
        e3
    ;;
    '4')
        mpg123
        ;;
    '5')
        firelog
        ;;
    '6')
        bash
        ;;
    '7')
        reboot
        ;;
    '8')
        poweroff
        ;;
    '9')
        exit 0
    ;;
    *)
    echo "Try again"
    ;;
  esac
done 
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#754 Post by Atle »

A great programmer is not always a guru in marketing, so what is done might not be seen or known to the public.

Once the software is like OOB and ready to ship, the time is there to present it for govs and NGOs... that is a job in it self...

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#755 Post by Trobin »

I'm no more a great programmer now than i was when I started woking on this.. The above script was uploaded to the forum by Mcewanw, I believe, and I adapted it for my use.
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