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a few questions on the Puppy files and booting
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moXXXXXX


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PostPosted: Tue 27 Sep 2005, 00:44    Post_subject:  a few questions on the Puppy files and booting  

i wanted to see if i understand the Puppy file system properly.
from what i've read Puppy seems to be stored in two files one of which is the user_cram.fs file and the other the pup001 file. i'm working on a boot CD that will boot, partition and format the disks, and then, I hope, copy across the user_cram.fs file and the pup001 files to the partition, re-write the MBR record and then reboot in to a freshly built Puppy machine. i am putting this disk together like this as i need to build 10+ machines to be all the same.
i am getting the user_cram.fs file and the pup001 file from a computer I've previously built with Puppy (I ran the install to HD wizard on this machine) and i thought I'd rewrite the MBR with the CD so that it looks the same as the MBR record of the machine from which I took the user_cram.fs and the pup001 file.
do you think this work? what i expect to happen is that the CD will make the computers look and act exactly like the computer I built by using the Puppy Live CD, fdisk, and the install to HD wizard.
hope someone can help with my understanding of this.
cheers - woof woof,
adrian
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PostPosted: Tue 27 Sep 2005, 01:25    Post_subject:  

I think you're talking about what's called cloning. If the hardware of the cloned computers is close enough to the original computer, you ought to be able to make it work.
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moXXXXXX


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PostPosted: Tue 27 Sep 2005, 01:45    Post_subject: just two files and the MBR  

thanks Flash.
am i right in thinking that it is only the two files and the MBR that i need to make the same?
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PostPosted: Tue 27 Sep 2005, 03:53    Post_subject: suggestion  

Well, that is one way to do it.
but I would recommend making your own custom puppy cd.
This will be easier in a couple of days, because of the new user friendlier script that
puppy will have. So if you have a couple of days wait for the new release.
Then you can create your easy puppy cd, and install the same suite of
applications and layouts and such with plopping in a cd and installing.
Yes it would be easier if you had a good lan tool to do this from
one central computer, but as of yet no a lot of puppies use that, I think???

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moXXXXXX


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PostPosted: Tue 27 Sep 2005, 03:59    Post_subject: partitions with new script  

thanks for the info. i can wait a few days so this might be an option.
will the new script enable to me to automatically have the drives partitioned and formted by the CD?
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p.s. if i have three partitions (one, swap, one for Puppy, and another) can I use the third partition for my Puppy data? how do i tell Puppy to keep, and read, my data from the third partition? will Puppy remember this and make all the computers I build using my custom made CD (with the new script) look and work the same?
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PostPosted: Tue 27 Sep 2005, 08:36    Post_subject:  

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from what i've read Puppy seems to be stored in two files one of which is the user_cram.fs file and the other the pup001 file

Almost. You forgot image.gz.

usr_cram.fs has everything in /usr
pup001 has /root (/etc is a symlink to /root/.etc, so /etc is also saved in pup001)
image.gz has everything else

When you make a change to /usr, the change is stored in /root/.usr (thus in pup001), which gets combined with usr_cram.fs to form /usr.

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moXXXXXX


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PostPosted: Tue 27 Sep 2005, 09:52    Post_subject: will the new release of puppy do this partitioning  

i wonder if the new release of puppy will do partitioning etc all in one? does anyone know? if not i can keep working on my little disk. so there are three files now. hmmm. interesting. will they know about each if i set up one computer with everything working (partitioning etc) and then copy these three files and have my magic disk place them in the "same" partitions on different computers? i wonder if i am making sense?!?!? hmmm. hehe.
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