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mjg

I'm excited to be playing with the new Puppy, and hope this post doesn't sound negative.

I like the pup on the desktop, but not the background color. Anyone reading reviews of Ubuntu would know that brown/beige is a big turn-off.

I quickly switched to IceWM and changed the background picture.

Unfortunately the beige follows me into Firefox, Thunderbird, etc. How do I remove the beige?

PeterSieg · Joined: 04 May 2005 Posts: 361 Location: Germany, 37603

Change the gtk theme through the menu...

PS

mjg · Posted: Wed 28 Sep 2005, 04:26 Post subject:

Thank you! Having changed the theme I'm more comfortable now with the desktop image, which is very good!

All the orange and brown everywhere undermined the image, in my view.

mouldy · Joined: 04 May 2005 Posts: 479

Ok, changing gtk theme has no effect or more appropriate to say the gtk=theme changer doesnt work. I changed it to "quiet, light gray pattern", rebooted more than once, and I still have those horrible orange/peach borders/menus. Go back and look and the box for "quiet, light grey pattern" is still checked with no effect.

MU · Posted: Thu 29 Sep 2005, 14:39 Post subject:

Hi,

I can't tell you why your themeswitcher does not work.

But you might install another one:
http://www.murga.org/%7Epuppy/viewtopic.php?t=2137

Some extended Themes are available here:
http://www.murga.org/%7Epuppy/viewtopic.php?t=2160

Mark

mouldy · Joined: 04 May 2005 Posts: 479

Ok, my mistake, the theme selector does change some things, but not the borders/menues. I guess thats buried somewhere in jvm, grrr.... Why orange and peach? Yuck.

rarsa · Posted: Thu 29 Sep 2005, 15:29 Post subject:

Try These themes Suggestions welcome. 'Yuck' feedbacks welcome, Requests for themes around a color combination welcome (Did you say Ubuntu brown?).

You found the answer to your question:
- GTK themes controls how GTK applications look inside the window.
- JWM themes control how the borders of the windows and the desktop look. Actually I'm thinking of having my JWM themes also switch the GTK theme to a suitable combination)

Regarding the 'Why Peachy?' Whatever color is used it will please some people and will alienate the rest.

Colors are also very culture dependant. Ubuntu has very earthly colors that don't appeal the Northamerican culture. Other cultures may find it a warm and welcoming color.

I agree, My first 'emotional' impression of Ubuntu was degraded by the brown theme. Some people may cringe to the Microsoft Blue.

mouldy · Joined: 04 May 2005 Posts: 479

Not liking JWM "themes" at all. XP bright blue and yellow is just as bad as orange and peach. Hurts my eyes and is distracting. Why not just an adjustment where I can pick the two contrasting colors jwm uses from an infinite range. And I can go find the wallpaper I want. Or just do some kind of neutral light gray default and those that want their eyes to hurt from bright and obnoxious color combinations can do so by downloading whatever.

I am strongly thinking of going back to fvwm95 at this point so I dont have to piddle with all this crap. I've already wasted too much time trying to defeat it and do things my way.

rarsa · Posted: Thu 29 Sep 2005, 16:10 Post subject:

This starts to sound like the kid that runs to his mother shouting "mom!, mom!, I cannot see!" and mom responds: Well, open your eyes"

Did you try the themes on the link I provided?

"The definition of insanity is doing the same thing expecting different results"

Marv · Joined: 04 May 2005 Posts: 181 Location: SW Wisconsin

Alas, I too cannot see. I've tried various themes and settings with JWM and have backslid to fvwm95 with my icons from pup 1.03 or so. JWM certainly works well but... Perhaps it's just too much time and too many versions burnishing fvwm95 til it's me or I'm it.

mouldy · Joined: 04 May 2005 Posts: 479

I did mess abit with imac-grayn theme. Much easier on eyes though not my favorite colors by any means (is there a color code key to insert different colors since JWM doesnt want to use real color names?), but gave me teeny font. I opened it up and adjusted things including giving it a much nicer image. Then font is big enough but horribly chopped up on the menu. And guess what still have dang orange minimized window showing in tray when I surf.

What fonts can I use with the jwm themes?

And it may sound like little kid complaining to you, but what about the newbie to Puppy who tries it and says YUCK and just moves on cause its too much hassle to change all this stuff.

Pizzasgood · Posted: Thu 29 Sep 2005, 18:00 Post subject:

mouldy · Joined: 04 May 2005 Posts: 479

Ok got rid of all orange by trial and errror and copying color code from XP theme. Dont really want bright blue for active window, but better than orange. Would be nice to have a chart of the color codes to work with.

mouldy · Joined: 04 May 2005 Posts: 479

GuestToo · Puppy Master Joined: 04 May 2005 Posts: 4078

you can use Puppy's grabc color picker (in the Graphics section of the menu) to get the numbers corresponding to the color you click on ... i did that when i made a few Icewm themes, because i didn't like most of the default Icewm themes