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KDE 3.5.8 (feb 07, 2008)
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MU


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PostPosted: Thu 07 Feb 2008, 23:11    Post subject:  

ok, that explanation will help me to get it working Smile
I also encountered side-effects from Puppys Gtkrc in /etc/gtk-2.0/ , so I replaced it with an empty file in Muppy. Now my Gtk-themeselectors only use /root/.gtkrc-2.0.
But not today, really must sleep Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri 08 Feb 2008, 03:40    Post subject:  

Here is a small update.
Use it, if you don't want to wait until I release an updated .sfs in some days.

Changes:

- Bugfix for libart_lgpl_2.so.2.3.19

- The KDE-Menu now looks almost as Puppys Menu.
I added some categories from KDE, that are not matched by Puppy, like "learning".
If you prefer the original KDE-menu after installation of this upgrade, you can switch to it.
Type in a consolewindow
setkdemenu kde
To use the Puppy-like menu again, just type:
setkdemenu
This writes your choice to a configfile.
startkde then will create a corresponding symlink /etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu.
This also has effect on the Gnome-Panel, if you have that (e.g. in Muppy).

- I also added .desktop-files for Krusader, so it appears in the menu, too.

- if you install it in Muppy, it will patch .xinitrc to work correct.

Download (7 kb):
http://puppyisos.org/isos/2008-01-to-06/Muppy-SFS/pfiles/KDE358-update.pet
mirror:
http://www.puppyfiles.ca/puppyisos/isos/Muppy-SFS/KDE358-update.pet

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PostPosted: Fri 08 Feb 2008, 10:11    Post subject:  

creating a new fresh pup_save file, in another directory, and then put the sfs kde file into, may be a good idea to experiment without damages to personal pup_save?

in kde they are some apps very useful for me
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PostPosted: Fri 08 Feb 2008, 16:35    Post subject:  

Hi Mark,

Glad that what I posted was able to help some. Made me feel good to know that I could still be of some use even this late in the game of my life. Wink

Well, now an update for you: Thinking about what you'd said last night I went searching GSlapt for the QtCurve/GTK engine to check the date on it. Mine was version 0.48 and there is now a version 0.55 in GSlapt. I wanted to install but oh no!---it wanted to haul in nearly ever KDE file! Not good!

So I followed the URL with my browser and got the .tar.gz file that way. Wink Using Krusader again as always I installed it just as I did the 0.48. (This file contained BOTH the KDE/GTK2 files by the way Mark.) Next I rebooted the computer to allow the new files to take effect over the older ones in RAM.

When I came back I reset everything for the QtCurve engine in both KDE and GTK2 and now there is a problem. There seems to be a certain instability with GTK2 apps when in the KDE desktop---although the QT apps are fine. There is a lot of crashing in GTK2 apps. Leafpad, Medit, Gpicview, and GQview, to name a few that I use most frequently. However, when in the IceWM desktop they take on the QtCruve look just fine (via my gtk2.0rc file), and are rock-stable, with no crashing to report after hours of use. Yet go into KDE---and the GTK2 apps become unstable once again.

Very odd, yes? I'm still not finished yet with testing. Originally I had the GTK2 apps in KDE set to QtCurve and KDE set to Polyester and all was stable. When I'm finished with email I am going to try that again to see what happens... and try to remember to post back my results then.

I hope this helps too?

mfg!

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PostPosted: Fri 08 Feb 2008, 17:41    Post subject:  

Hi Mark,

Rather than post an "edit" to my page WhoDo has told me in the past it's often better to post a separate topic as you get another update notice. Whatever...

Okie... Finished the email and went back into the KDE desktop. After writing the above I got to thinking that perhaps where they had severely updated the "QtCurve" gtkrc file which goes into "/usr/share/themes" that perhaps this may have something to do with the instability of the GTK2 apps. They've added several files in there now pertaining to icons and such. I had kept my original file which came with v0.48 (In fact, I still have the tarball 0.48 back to 0.46 or 0.44 on a disk) so while in IceWM I simply switched the two directories around to see if that would make a change when booting into KDE.

Once I was in this desktop I called up those apps listed above---and just like before Mark---they all crashed.

So I did the original idea I said I would do: Changed the KDE eye-candy look to "Polyester" (after all, it still heavily resembles QtCurve) but still left my gtk2.0rc files with QtCurve as the default engine.

Everything works fine now. LOL! Laughing Very odd, non? But at least the two looks are enough alike that it's not very noticeable. I just find it odd that changing the KDE engine but leaving the GTK2 engine alone would stop the GTK2 apps from crashing.

I hope this new and extra info also helps Mark?

Les ordis sont fus je crois! Wink

mfg!

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PostPosted: Fri 08 Feb 2008, 21:07    Post subject:
Subject description: KDE 3.5.8 in Dingo alpha 6
 

Mark,

I succeeded in finding the missing libraries and copied the to /lib.
KDE 3.5.8 is running now on Dingo alpha 6
In lost&Found I did find all the Puppy menu entries like the Network Wizard, so I could configure my network connection.

All the missing libraries are in a directory which I zipped.

I attached the KDE-Dingo.zip here.

Have fun.

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PostPosted: Fri 08 Feb 2008, 21:34    Post subject:  

merci beaucoup Béèm.

I attach a dotpet.

This Dotpet can be used to add missing libraries to Puppy 4 (Dingo) Alpha 6.

It does not register to petget to avoid, that it can be uninstalled (what could conflict if you install other programs with the same libs).

These files are included:
Code:
/usr/lib/libacl.so.1
/usr/lib/libacl.so.1.1.0
/usr/lib/libattr.so.1
/usr/lib/libattr.so.1.1.0
/usr/lib/libidn.so.11
/usr/lib/libidn.so.11.5.24
/usr/lib/libxcb-xlib.so.0
/usr/lib/libxcb-xlib.so.0.0.0
/usr/lib/libxcb.so.1
/usr/lib/libxcb.so.1.0.0
/usr/X11R7/lib/libdrm.so.2
/usr/X11R7/lib/libdrm.so.2.3.0
/usr/X11R7/lib/libGL.so.1
/usr/X11R7/lib/libGL.so.1.2


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PostPosted: Fri 08 Feb 2008, 21:55    Post subject:  

Mark,

Il n'y a pas de quoi
You're welcome.
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PostPosted: Fri 08 Feb 2008, 22:00    Post subject:  

Merci mille fois Beem pour travailler si, si, fort sur ce projet! Bien fait! Et maintenant tout le monde qui veut utiliser Dingo peut aussi user KDE 3.5.8 avec cette version de Puppy. C'est vraiment fantastique mon ami Puppien! BRAVO!

Thank you so very much Beem for working so very hard on this project! So well done! And now everyone who wants to use Dingo can also use KDE 3.5.8 with this version of Puppy. This is truly fantastic my fellow Puppian Friend! BRAVO!

I've been sitting here tonight contemplating whether or not to give Dingo a try but the lack of many of the programmes I use in my daily work has prevented me. No reason not to try now!

Merci mille fois encore mon ami Puppian!

Amicalement,

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PostPosted: Sat 09 Feb 2008, 05:30    Post subject:  

Eyes-only,
Merci pour le compliment.
Suis-tu encore un peu le forum de K-Meleon?
J'ai décroché un peu.
C'est bien de s'excercer encore en Français.
Que les petits enfants vont bien.
Bernard

Thank you for the compliment.
Do you follow still the K-Meleon forum?
I don't follow quite close anymore.
Good to see you still excercice in French.
May you grandchildren go wel.

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PostPosted: Sat 09 Feb 2008, 06:51    Post subject:
Subject description: Still missing libraries
 

Mark,
What I feared has arrived.
Alltho KDE is running in Dingo alpha 6, there is still a possibility of missing libraries when launching an application.

So it happened for Knode.
I found the lib in the known way and Knode starts.

I can post to a server which doesn't require authentication.
But when I define a server, needing authentication, the password isn't retained in the settings.
Do you have this problem also?

EDIT
After closing Knode and starting again it works.
Strange, shouldn't happen in my opinion.

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PostPosted: Sat 09 Feb 2008, 11:35    Post subject:
Subject description: Memory hungry
 

Like with Muppy008 I experience all of a sudden a slow machine which crawls even when the simplest task is performed on my 256MB PC.

So I have to use a swap file now.
It's better to know this in advance.

Code:
# free
              total         used         free       shared      buffers
  Mem:       254924       223168        31756            0        18060
 Swap:       391160        62436       328724
Total:       646084       285604       360480
#

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PostPosted: Sat 09 Feb 2008, 13:53    Post subject:
Subject description: How KDE 3.5.8 looks in Dingo
 

Nice. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat 09 Feb 2008, 22:12    Post subject:  

Wow... That really IS a nice shot of KDE on Dingo! I just hope that when Barry returns from "Walkabout" he gets the chance to see that one! Really nice! I still have yet to download and try this out yet I got up very late today and am only now getting the chance (at 21:00hrs my time) to rest a moment before moving onward. -sigh-

By the way Beem: No, I no longer go to the K-Meleon forums. When I left there (unlike here it would seem) I left for good as I was no longer able to help out. I was useless so I saw no reason for hanging around. And then I changed over to Linux a very short time later, something I may not have done had I have continued working upon the K-Meleon browser as I had at the time. (I was the 5th, "ghost member" of the Welsehbalg 8.3 team, and the one who brought the programmers together for the project. I'm the one who figured out how to add the Gecko engine without the need to recompile KM.)

As for my grandchildren: We discovered this summer that my grandson is not well, and now they are keeping an eye on my grand-daughter. They are both still my "Little Angels" and I come alive whenever they are around. Smile

Amicalement mon ami,

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PostPosted: Sun 10 Feb 2008, 04:58    Post subject:  

@Eyes-Only,

Sorry to hear about your grandson. Hope a way is found to make him better.

As for K-Meleon, I got it working in Wine without a problem.

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