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puppyluvr


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PostPosted: Sat 15 Mar 2008, 18:39    Post subject:  BuddaPup-215
Subject description: E16 Enlightenment Puppy for older machines
 

..........UPDATE...see my last post down below..........THX... Very Happy


Very Happy Hello Very Happy
Puppyluvr would like to announce the release of BuddaPup. (with immence gratitude to Caneri and Puppylinux.ca for hosting my iso)
BuddaPup is an ongoing attempt to provide a ready made Pup based on the Enlightenment Window Manager.
Currently BuddaPup Beta 2 is based on the very complete Lighthouse Puppy 215, with the addition of Firefox and Opera.
It is a rather large Pup at 307mb but runs on my old dinosaur with 160mb ram + swap
BuddaPup 3 series will be built from scratch atop a 301 base with only chosen packages, and thus the iso should be much smaller (if i dont get carried away lol), although future releases will include more games. (Tuxracer, Supertux, zsnes, ect..)
The url for download is http://puppylinux.ca/members/BuddaPup/
Once again many thanks to Caneri for hosting it Very Happy
Any feedback will be appreciated
Enjoy... Very Happy

[quote]Enlightenment is fast. No, really. It's fast. It is known to run on very slow machines (like 100 Mhz CPU, 64 MB of RAM) well. So you really don't need a modern desktop to see some eye-candy and to use a modern graphical environment. Even more – you can control how fast you want it by using it's Performance configuration panel to change the cache settings and more...Enlightenment.org

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PostPosted: Sun 16 Mar 2008, 16:27    Post subject: Screenshot  

Very Happy Hello Very Happy
thought id add a screenshot of the live cd
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CatDude


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PostPosted: Wed 19 Mar 2008, 09:39    Post subject:  

Hello puppyluvr

Nice job you have done with this derivative.

But i think you forgot to include the zdrv_215.sfs in the ISO,
i dont know if that was intentional or just oversight.

I copied the file from Lighthouse215SeaM_Beta5.iso,
and that enabled me to get online.

CatDude

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PostPosted: Sun 23 Mar 2008, 12:07    Post subject: zdrv215.sfs
Subject description: Oversight, i think!
 

Very Happy Hello Catdude Very Happy
First off, thank you for trying my pup Very Happy ..
It is a first attempt, hence being based on an already complete pup.
I wanted to get a version out there based around Enlightenment, to see if it generated any interest, while I am building a newer version from scratch.
As for zdrv.215.sfs, I must confess ignorance. I know it is a necessary file containing drivers for puppy, but since everything works for me (ethernet/wifi ect..) I never new it was missing. Also, as an ignorant noob I also must confess, I dont even know where it is supposed to be!!
I rebooted my desktop fresh from the live cd iso, and everything works fine, But i cant find zdrv215.sfs anywhere.
I dont know why the Remaster wouldnt have included it, but i am attempting to learn more as we speak.
I do know that the iso boots fine for me, and everything works, so i might try D/Loading it from Caneri`s sight and rechecking to make sure it matches the iso and md5sum as I have them.
If necessary i will re/upload a corrected iso.(once i learn more about zdrv215.sfs, like where it is supposed to be, and why no-one has run into this problem before!)
Thank you for bringing this to my attention, I`m certain it will serve to expand my knowledge of Puppy, which can only lead to better Puppys in the future. Very Happy


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PostPosted: Sun 23 Mar 2008, 12:07    Post subject: zdrv215.sfs
Subject description: Oversight, i think!
 

Duplicate post..oops
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darrelljon


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PostPosted: Sun 23 Mar 2008, 14:34    Post subject:  

Just what I've been looking for a usable fast Enlightenment pup.
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CatDude


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PostPosted: Mon 24 Mar 2008, 14:09    Post subject: Re: zdrv215.sfs
Subject description: Oversight, i think!
 

Hello puppyluvr

Sorry for the delay in responding.
puppyluvr wrote:

As for zdrv.215.sfs, I must confess ignorance. I know it is a necessary file containing drivers for puppy, but since everything works for me (ethernet/wifi ect..) I never new it was missing. Also, as an ignorant noob I also must confess, I dont even know where it is supposed to be!!


It should be in with the rest of the files, in the directory that the remaster script created called puppylivecdbuild. (If thats the way you did it)
You should look in there before you create the ISO image

puppyluvr wrote:

I rebooted my desktop fresh from the live cd iso, and everything works fine, But i cant find zdrv215.sfs anywhere.

I am a little confused by that, do you mean that you can setup your network, even though there is no zdrv215.sfs Rolling Eyes

puppyluvr wrote:

I do know that the iso boots fine for me, and everything works, so i might try D/Loading it from Caneri`s sight and rechecking to make sure it matches the iso and md5sum as I have them.


Yeah it boots fine for me too, but complained about the sound,(no driver i presume)
and i could not load the necessary driver to enable me to setup my internet connection.

I verified the ISO i downloaded, and it tallied with the md5sum given.
md5sum = bc54cb589107d795ae833b10c365be6d BuddaPupbeta2.iso

The contents of the ISO i downloaded are:

-r--r--r-- 1 root root 2048 2008-02-24 02:05 boot.cat
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1336 2008-02-24 01:48 boot.msg
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1316243 2008-02-24 01:48 initrd.gz
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 10648 2008-02-24 01:48 isolinux.bin
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 796 2008-02-24 01:48 isolinux.cfg
-rwx------ 1 root root 239906816 2008-02-24 02:04 pup_215.sfs
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1751229 2008-02-24 01:48 vmlinuz


Once i had copied the zdrv215.sfs file from Lighthouse215SeaM_Beta5.iso,
to the partition where i saved my pup_save.2fs to, and rebooted.
I no longer got the complaint about sound, AND i could load the driver for network connection.

Other than that mate, it seems to be OK

CatDude

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PostPosted: Fri 28 Mar 2008, 10:54    Post subject: zdrv215,sfs  

Very Happy Hey CatDude,
Sorry for the slow response..
Well, you are right

The contents of the ISO i downloaded are:

-r--r--r-- 1 root root 2048 2008-02-24 02:05 boot.cat
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1336 2008-02-24 01:48 boot.msg
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1316243 2008-02-24 01:48 initrd.gz
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 10648 2008-02-24 01:48 isolinux.bin
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 796 2008-02-24 01:48 isolinux.cfg
-rwx------ 1 root root 239906816 2008-02-24 02:04 pup_215.sfs
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1751229 2008-02-24 01:48 vmlinuz

These are the same on my live CD..no zdrv215.sfs..
Ran a search..found some text files pointing to zdrv215.sfs..
But not the actual file..
So I know its supposed to be there, but I cant locate it..
The strange part is Everything works..Ethernet..Wi/Fi...
So does that mean its there somewhere...
I`m so confused... Embarassed LOL
I`ll gladly remaster again to include it..
And re-upload it again...
As soon as I figure out where it`s supposed to go..
Or should I just stick it with Pup215.sfs in the iso...
And let Puppy figure it out??
I`ve had a HD install of Buddapup running for a few months
But I have to remaster from the live CD...(made that mistake b4)
Besides..it is the live iso we are concerned about here...
I need to figure this out before I go any further on beta3..
I guess I can boot my Lighthouse CD and see what/where
it does with zdrv215.sfs...maybe get a clue...LOL..
Still dont get why Everything works for me...
Prit1 has tried BuddaPup..I wonder if he had the same problem??
I`ll have to ask him...
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PostPosted: Fri 28 Mar 2008, 23:29    Post subject:  

"In the battle against insanity, the best defense is surrender."
Dr. Zeus

Smile You show great enthusiasm for the window manager Enlightenment Smile
People should be aware this is not suitable for Buddhists
Try Zen when available
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/ZeN

The window manager is not my cup of tea
- the interface made me feel ill . . .
but some will appreciate loads of eye candy. Cool

For real authentic Buddhapupness add a modified YAP to a more serene window manager . . .
http://tmxxine.com/wik/wikka.php?wakka=YapInfo

Here is a little relaxation loop if you ever need the calm . . .
http://tmxxine.com/y/wikka.php?wakka=RelaxRoutine

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PostPosted: Sat 29 Mar 2008, 00:33    Post subject: Enlightenment  

Very Happy Hey Lobster...Hows the PH balance treatin` ya Very Happy

I know what you mean about the Enlightenment Window Manager
At first I found it off-putting and intrusive..But given a little time, and
a little "tweaking", it grew on me.
I run it with XFishtank on. No icons, just waves, fish, and a clock..
Quite serene..People ask where I got the "Cool Screensaver"...

Yea, I like the eye candy..(nothing compared to the wNOP&CiaroDock
install on hda4 Cool ), but different than any other WM...Maybe I just
like the "As far from M$ as I can get" look, and the fact that it`s
just SOOO different...(like me Very Happy ) And the transparency..

I do find the menu setup redundant,
redundant,
redundant , but you get used to it...

Yea, I guess someone had to get "attached" to Enlightenment...
(But I thought you were the one seeking "Enlightenment" Very Happy )
Having a little trouble deciding which way to go for the 301 alpha
I have plenty of room for Unleashed, and the remaster isnt workin
so well on the 301 for me so far, so "Learning Curve" here I come
I guess Rolling Eyes ..Maybe I`ll keep trying the remaster..I`m lazy..



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PostPosted: Sat 29 Mar 2008, 01:55    Post subject:  

@Puppyluvr: I tried the Buddapup Beta2 on one of my laptops and I am receiving the same errors that Catdude mentioned. Sound error and no networking. The looks are cool though.
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PostPosted: Sat 29 Mar 2008, 09:38    Post subject:  

Very Happy Thank you Prit1 Very Happy
I downloaded the iso from Puppylinux.ca, and also had the same prob..But the iso I burned at home didnt...Musta screwed it up during upload or something...No bother, I
wanted to make some changes anyhow Very Happy
Will redo, check and recheck, reupload and redownload this weekend...Will be sure to include zdrv215.sfs this time....and a few other goodies...Beta 2B here we come.. Very Happy
Thank you again for your help Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat 29 Mar 2008, 14:09    Post subject: Disappointed
Subject description: Buddapup not for my box
 

I'm a non-technical Puppy enthusiast who has tried maybe a dozen derivatives with my 400mhz, 192mb RAM machine. All work, some wonderfully (my present standard is 3.00).
BuddaPup Beta 2 was a big disappointment. I couldn't configure the ethernet card or the sound card. The desktop was confusing and annoying, with uncalled-for popups all over the place. I'm glad I burned it to a CD-RW, so I could erase with no harm done.
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PostPosted: Sat 29 Mar 2008, 14:23    Post subject:  

I'll download and try it but only on condition that you spell Buddha "correctly" Smile
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PostPosted: Sat 29 Mar 2008, 21:57    Post subject: BuddaPup  

Very Happy Hello Very Happy


@ DaveC51
Yes, the pop-up tool tips are annoying, I forgot to
disable them before I remastered.. Please remember
it is a Beta, and I am a Noob...The Networking and Audio
problems are my fault. I missed a file somehow Embarassed , so I`m
remastering it again as we speak...



@Paulh177
Please hold off on the D/L till I correct the aformentioned
problems..Will post when corrected.. Very Happy Oh, and the misspelling
is intentional..The spelling is as distant as the connection to the
Belief...
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