Do you still use Windows sometimes? And why?
- Billwho?
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I am currently about half way through the latest six-monthly reinstall of XP. Even using the Ghost image I made immediately after the last reinstall couldn't fix the latest problem. So it is wipe the partition, install window$, remove what default applications are not wanted, install replacements for applications removed, install third party applications, configure everything, reboot-defrag-reboot-defrag-reboot-defrag-etc, connect to the net download and install m$ updates while praying that they don't break things again. Then if all goes well make a new Ghost image and hope it will work next time.
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The learning curve may be steep but there is a light at the end of the tunnel.
You just have to pass the occasional oncoming train to get there.
The learning curve may be steep but there is a light at the end of the tunnel.
You just have to pass the occasional oncoming train to get there.
I only use Windows xp sp2 for dowloading video from the web and video editing and encoding. I have not found linux replacements yet. Oh, I forgot, I use word to make labels, that's about it. Windows is really more for office work. At home your much better off using a flavour of Linux(there are so many to choose from these days). I use Puppy on my PIIIs(320 megs p100 ram) because it is just so fast(faster than xp on a core 2 duo p4 with 2 gigs of ram!!). I have Ubuntu Ultimate Edition 1.7 on one PIII(as well as Puppy 3.01 using a save file and booting from the disc) another Puppy on another PIII and Windows xp on my P4. I like the variety, and the two Linux distros I use recognize all my hardware. Having 3 systems has me covered for everything I like to do. pch
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A couple of years ago, because of illness and life changes, I was away from any computer activity at home. I was able to resume my "hobby" in January of this year.
Unlike others who have posted here on this thread, I am not involved with computers or computing as a profession and can be considered just an average home user. But as I mentioned, it is my hobby, soi I have a number of computers in my home (6 to be exact) ranging from old to new, desktops and laptops. All of this just to pursue my hobby.
I first discovered Linux in 1997 with a retail copy of Red Hat. I installed it on a AMD K-5 and was fascinated. Of course, I couldn't get anything to work, but I continued to play with it, though Win95/8 remianed my main system for work. Gradually, I began migrating to Linux, so that by 2003, I was using it most of the time. But there were still things I needed to do in Windows to pursue another hobby, video editing. Others have mentioned video editing as an area where Linux is still sadly lacking, so I have contiunued using Premiere Pro.
In January, when I turned on my main computer which had not been fired up in two years, it blew up (hard drives fried, mobo fried, etc.)
So I built a new one with the limited budget I had (AMD64, 1.5gb mem.)
I no longer had a copy of Windows, so I bought an OEM copy from a computer fair, installed it along with three Linux flavors on the the same 160gb hard drive. Went on the net to update all, and as soon as XP was updated, the Genuine Advatange software informed me that my copy of Windows WAS NOT GENUINE! No chance of tracking down the scoundrel who sold it to me, I just wiped the hard drive and started over. I reinstalled the Linuxes, updated, and on that machine I have been Windowless ever since.
The point is this: while I thought that I HAD to have at least one copy of Windows available, I found that not to be true. I have been able to every thing I ever did with Windows on Linux, and have been learning Cinelerra quite well. OK, not as good as PremierPro, but it will suite my needs when I have learned it. Puppy is being used on two laptops and will soon be installed on another. It is the only distro I use on my portable computers.
So, except for my wife's company owned work laptop, THIS HOUSE IS CLEAN!
Bob
Unlike others who have posted here on this thread, I am not involved with computers or computing as a profession and can be considered just an average home user. But as I mentioned, it is my hobby, soi I have a number of computers in my home (6 to be exact) ranging from old to new, desktops and laptops. All of this just to pursue my hobby.
I first discovered Linux in 1997 with a retail copy of Red Hat. I installed it on a AMD K-5 and was fascinated. Of course, I couldn't get anything to work, but I continued to play with it, though Win95/8 remianed my main system for work. Gradually, I began migrating to Linux, so that by 2003, I was using it most of the time. But there were still things I needed to do in Windows to pursue another hobby, video editing. Others have mentioned video editing as an area where Linux is still sadly lacking, so I have contiunued using Premiere Pro.
In January, when I turned on my main computer which had not been fired up in two years, it blew up (hard drives fried, mobo fried, etc.)
So I built a new one with the limited budget I had (AMD64, 1.5gb mem.)
I no longer had a copy of Windows, so I bought an OEM copy from a computer fair, installed it along with three Linux flavors on the the same 160gb hard drive. Went on the net to update all, and as soon as XP was updated, the Genuine Advatange software informed me that my copy of Windows WAS NOT GENUINE! No chance of tracking down the scoundrel who sold it to me, I just wiped the hard drive and started over. I reinstalled the Linuxes, updated, and on that machine I have been Windowless ever since.
The point is this: while I thought that I HAD to have at least one copy of Windows available, I found that not to be true. I have been able to every thing I ever did with Windows on Linux, and have been learning Cinelerra quite well. OK, not as good as PremierPro, but it will suite my needs when I have learned it. Puppy is being used on two laptops and will soon be installed on another. It is the only distro I use on my portable computers.
So, except for my wife's company owned work laptop, THIS HOUSE IS CLEAN!
Bob
I use Windows every day at work but very infrequently at home.
I work for a very large corporation where all the computers, including servers, are Windows. Period.
If I had LotusNotes for Linux, my usage of Windows at home would be even more infrequent as I just run windows when I need to check my company's mail.
Normally if I need to VPN to the office I VPN from Puppy using the CISCO IPSEC client and use RDesktop to remote to the servers.
At home my multi-boot desktop my sons usually boot in Linux (Fedora) as it allows me to do X over SSH to that computer to use GnuCash and other Gnome apps.
I normally run Puppy from a USB on "my" company's laptop.
Professionally, Windows is my main OS
But personally Puppy is my main OS.
I work for a very large corporation where all the computers, including servers, are Windows. Period.
If I had LotusNotes for Linux, my usage of Windows at home would be even more infrequent as I just run windows when I need to check my company's mail.
Normally if I need to VPN to the office I VPN from Puppy using the CISCO IPSEC client and use RDesktop to remote to the servers.
At home my multi-boot desktop my sons usually boot in Linux (Fedora) as it allows me to do X over SSH to that computer to use GnuCash and other Gnome apps.
I normally run Puppy from a USB on "my" company's laptop.
Professionally, Windows is my main OS
But personally Puppy is my main OS.
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http://www.nsftools.com/NL7/
IBM put it out in July 06, for REHL
Just a thought
Aitch
Can't you adapt this?If I had LotusNotes for Linux
http://www.nsftools.com/NL7/
IBM put it out in July 06, for REHL
I don't know if you can supply the necessaries?the new Lotus Notes for Linux client is available for download to anyone with a current Lotus Notes entitlement.
Just a thought
Aitch
Have to use windows at the college, needed for mathxl, cant get internet explorer running in wine.
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ies uses an own version of wine, it can be installed beside wine:Wolf Pup wrote:Have to use windows at the college, needed for mathxl, cant get internet explorer running in wine.
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=16246
Maybe that helps
Mark
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My brother uses pro applications that only run under win2k/xp ... dongle-crypt keys.
so he can't change to puppy/muppy for serious pro apps...
but for casual work, it's ok...
Printer / Scanner / Web-Cam support is still a big PAIN with linux ... when will the guys ever learn.. +- user friendly !
New tech gadgets are not supported, big companies don't/can't see the emerging foothold profit factor ..
- Create a project-team, deliver linux drivers, feedback , update the drivers
- free linux drivers entice people to buy the product .....
small starting investement (for big corps) -> gpl driver team + updates = corp market-share + corp-profit...
equals a happy Puppy user, as their new gadget works....
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so he can't change to puppy/muppy for serious pro apps...
but for casual work, it's ok...
Printer / Scanner / Web-Cam support is still a big PAIN with linux ... when will the guys ever learn.. +- user friendly !
New tech gadgets are not supported, big companies don't/can't see the emerging foothold profit factor ..
- Create a project-team, deliver linux drivers, feedback , update the drivers
- free linux drivers entice people to buy the product .....
small starting investement (for big corps) -> gpl driver team + updates = corp market-share + corp-profit...
equals a happy Puppy user, as their new gadget works....
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I am a great fan of Windoze. And I am a great fan of MAC OS X.. And I am a great fan of PUPPY of course... so let me explain:
These are different fruit and are not comparable. Being an audio professional and dsp programmer I can tell that XP is perfect for multitracking. A small kernel with built-in grafics support - what do you want more ? Networking ? Sorry, not here. As a result Sequoia, Max/MSP, creamware DSP cards all run under XP. I really like XP as much as I hate Mikrosoft. My XP has never seen the internet.
OSX is my writing host for Latex and the alike. Also Supercollider3 and PureData is there and some IRCAM stuff. I am just exploring networking on Darwin. Darwin will be my replacement for a full HD install. And it seems to be well documented. However it is a piece of psyware IMHO. Yes psyware is also good, spyware is what I wanted to type.
*nix have a problem with GUI building and stability. (Darwin addresses this issue. ) For the end-user it is a horror to split every application up into a gui part and a server part. For the programmer it is superior, of course. One possibility to increase bandwidth between kernel and xserver is to make the kernel a small one. Most apps do not need this bandwidth.
Most of the time I run Puppy anyways... it's just too much fun. (And it doesn't spy on me).
These are different fruit and are not comparable. Being an audio professional and dsp programmer I can tell that XP is perfect for multitracking. A small kernel with built-in grafics support - what do you want more ? Networking ? Sorry, not here. As a result Sequoia, Max/MSP, creamware DSP cards all run under XP. I really like XP as much as I hate Mikrosoft. My XP has never seen the internet.
OSX is my writing host for Latex and the alike. Also Supercollider3 and PureData is there and some IRCAM stuff. I am just exploring networking on Darwin. Darwin will be my replacement for a full HD install. And it seems to be well documented. However it is a piece of psyware IMHO. Yes psyware is also good, spyware is what I wanted to type.
*nix have a problem with GUI building and stability. (Darwin addresses this issue. ) For the end-user it is a horror to split every application up into a gui part and a server part. For the programmer it is superior, of course. One possibility to increase bandwidth between kernel and xserver is to make the kernel a small one. Most apps do not need this bandwidth.
Most of the time I run Puppy anyways... it's just too much fun. (And it doesn't spy on me).
Thank you, I knew IBM had released it but at that time (2006) I didn't find the downloads and I assumed I would have to get it through my company (fat chance).
I'll try and report.
Reporting back. Cannot get the download.
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I run my business on Linux
I'm an independent computer consultant and have used Linux 99% of the time for my business for the past several years.
The one reason I still need one copy of Windows around is to test compatibility to ensure my products will be viewed properly by my clients who use Windows.
Example-- when my work product is a document, I typically must deliver this in MS Word format. So I do the whole thing in OO Writer, but when I'm done, it's wise to open it one time in Word to ensure all the formatting will be viewed correctly by my client.
Example-- I maintain several websites using Linux, but when I'm done, I need to view them how my clients do to verify formatting etc -- this means looking at them one time in IE, since most clients use Windows w/IE to view the websites.
The linuxes I use are Puppy (fast and light) and Ubuntu (most mainstream). Also I run Oracle under Oracle Enterprise Linux (OEL) for DBA work.
The one reason I still need one copy of Windows around is to test compatibility to ensure my products will be viewed properly by my clients who use Windows.
Example-- when my work product is a document, I typically must deliver this in MS Word format. So I do the whole thing in OO Writer, but when I'm done, it's wise to open it one time in Word to ensure all the formatting will be viewed correctly by my client.
Example-- I maintain several websites using Linux, but when I'm done, I need to view them how my clients do to verify formatting etc -- this means looking at them one time in IE, since most clients use Windows w/IE to view the websites.
The linuxes I use are Puppy (fast and light) and Ubuntu (most mainstream). Also I run Oracle under Oracle Enterprise Linux (OEL) for DBA work.
I still use it for military IMT forms, I could use wine but it's easier to just use windows for this as updates only work in IE. Also for my tablet as I can't find a linux replacement yet, that I can get to work anyway, also I use it to sync and add programs to my Palm TX. I'm waiting for Ubuntu Mobile to see it I can replace it on my tablet, fingers crossed I'm using puppy on a thumb drive for my Fujitsu U 810 tablet when I don't need the writing function. If only I could use the touch screen and handwritting windows would be gone.
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