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Can I compile from within Puppy? (Short answer: yes)
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kethd

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PostPosted: Sat 26 Nov 2005, 10:58    Post subject: How big is usr_devx.sfs ?  

This is a Very Enlightening discussion -- but just how big is this one giant download I have to get somehow?
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PostPosted: Sat 26 Nov 2005, 12:01    Post subject: Re: How big is usr_devx.sfs ?  

kethd wrote:
...just how big is this one giant download I have to get somehow?
Just over 44 MB. You'll find it here.
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kethd

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PostPosted: Thu 08 Dec 2005, 11:28    Post subject:  

See also:
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/ProgrammingLanguage
a growing list of all the languages potentially available in Puppy.
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shankargopal

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PostPosted: Wed 21 Dec 2005, 09:51    Post subject:  

And how would all this apply to the multisession CD? Sorry, not able to figure it out...
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rarsa


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PostPosted: Wed 21 Dec 2005, 14:10    Post subject:  

shankargopal wrote:
And how would all this apply to the multisession CD? Sorry, not able to figure it out...
It has as much to do as the fact that the sky is blue.

This thread is about compiling applications under Puppy.

Puppy's installation/usage method is orthogonal to compiling under puppy. The only relation is that both are puppy topics.

Why did you try to 'apply' this thread to multisession?
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shankargopal

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PostPosted: Thu 22 Dec 2005, 00:47    Post subject:  

rarsa wrote:
It has as much to do as the fact that the sky is blue.

This thread is about compiling applications under Puppy.

Puppy's installation/usage method is orthogonal to compiling under puppy. The only relation is that both are puppy topics.

Why did you try to 'apply' this thread to multisession?


I guess my question is this:

where do you put the usr_devx.sfs file, considering that multisession puppy doesn't create a pupxxx file? And how do you load it, since it won't load at boot?

Not so sure that it's entirely orthogonal... installation method makes a difference to where you put files, doesn't it? Smile
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Yaverot


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PostPosted: Thu 22 Dec 2005, 01:17    Post subject:  

I agree that the directions aren't exactly clear in reguards to how to use the .sfs file with multi-session (it's indicates as a single line during boot that its loading, on my machine that line is visible for about a second) But I know it is possible to load it with multisession CD-R (haven't tried with DVD-R yet, but I remember seeing a forum comment on download to location X, then hit the save button - presto!), although I don't know which location I stuck it in (CD) is the one that took.

Once it is loaded the files are there, under usr/bin I think. It doesn't add any desktop icons, or to the menu, so once loaded you still need to look for it.
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PostPosted: Thu 22 Dec 2005, 02:34    Post subject:  

http://www.pupweb.org/puppy/news.htm
Quote:
Just download them to /root and reboot, they will be automatically loaded onto /usr. However, in the case of DVD, download them, burn immediately to DVD using growisofs, then delete the file
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dtopham

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PostPosted: Thu 29 Dec 2005, 02:47    Post subject:  

rarsa wrote:
Bottom line:

- Go to the puppy download page www.puppylinux.com
- Download usr_devx.sfs
- If you are using a pupxxx file: Put usr_devx.sfs in the same place where the pupxxx file is.
- If you have a HDD installation, put usr_devx.sfs under /
- Reboot puppy

that's it!


If there is a need to upgrade to newer versions of tools, e.g. to get the latest autoconfig, etc. does that mean they should be installed to /usr/bin and will override the ones in usr_devx.sfs because of the PATH order? Or can they be saved to the sfs file so as not to be duplicated? Or is that file refreshed periodically and we get a new one? (I recently have to upgrade some of the tools to compile some source code I got from sourceforge cvs)
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MU


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PostPosted: Thu 29 Dec 2005, 03:08    Post subject:  

You always will need the usr_devx.sfs that belongs to the correct Puppy-version.

I store older ones (since 106) here:
http://dotpups.de/puppy-releases/

If you need newer tools, simply compile them.
The old ones will still be in usr_devx.sfs, but puppy uses the newer ones, that will go to /root/.usr , that is used preferebly as /usr to the .sfs-files.
(at boot-time Puppys virtual filesystem merges all that together as /usr).

You even can run "make uninstall" on your new programs (if they support that), then Puppy will use the old ones again.

Mark
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simons101

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PostPosted: Thu 19 Jan 2006, 08:57    Post subject:  

i have installed usr_devx.sfs, yet i still get the below error

checking how to run the C preprocessor... /lib/cpp
configure: error: C preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check

this occurs on all apps i try to install

can anyone help me out on why this occurs


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MU


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PostPosted: Thu 19 Jan 2006, 09:33    Post subject:  

1st, be shure, to use the usr_devx.sfs for the correct puppy-version.
The file for 106 is different from 107.

If that is cleared, maybe you use a harddisk-install?
I found this among others searching the forum for "sanity":
http://www.murga.org/~puppy/viewtopic.php?p=22904#22904

So this command might help:
ln -s /usr/bin/gcc-3.3.4 /usr/bin/gcc

Mark
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