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capoverde

Joined: 28 Jun 2006 Posts: 231 Location: Sanremo (Italy) with fine seaview
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Posted: Wed 09 Apr 2008, 18:52 Post subject:
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Update to my previous post about having to restart X for a correct (or almost) initialization: just tried to see what happens using Xorg.
Well, nothing happens -- after a seemingly normal and successful test (at 1280x1024x32) and getting the go, the screen stays black and no key combination takes back to text mode or to reboot: total hang! The MD5 sum says the ISO file is shipshape.
Using the present LCD monitor, former (stable) releases had both Xvesa and Xorg working OK, with apparently identical behavior.
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HairyWill

Joined: 26 May 2006 Posts: 2949 Location: Southampton, UK
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Posted: Wed 09 Apr 2008, 19:38 Post subject:
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Barry
You asked for ideas for stopping the battery tray app starting on desktop machines. I haven't really followed the overall problem but I suspect it might only be happening on machines that use apm rather than acpi. You can query the apm status by doing cat /proc/apm. Here are a couple of example outputs from my laptop. The first is with the power plugged in and the second is with it disconnected | Code: | sh-3.00# cat /proc/apm
1.16ac 1.2 0x03 0x01 0x03 0x09 99% -1 ?
sh-3.00# cat /proc/apm
1.16ac 1.2 0x03 0x00 0x00 0x01 97% 2 min
sh-3.00# | On my laptop it is possible to test apm behaviour by booting with acpi=off apm=on
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floborg

Joined: 25 Oct 2007 Posts: 194 Location: Fort Worth, TX
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Posted: Wed 09 Apr 2008, 20:32 Post subject:
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Barry asked for more info about the battery app issue:
I posted the output of lsmod in an earlier post.
I do not have a /proc/acpi directory.
I do not have a /sys/module/battery directory.
On what may be a related note, I've never been able to get CPU temperature information using any of the methods described in these forums (with Puppy 3.01).
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jcagle
Joined: 29 Sep 2005 Posts: 634
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Posted: Wed 09 Apr 2008, 20:38 Post subject:
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Not sure that this is really a bug...
I was using the Flock web browser in Alpha 7, then went to Puppy 4 Beta...
Flock doesn't work.
first of all, libstdc++.so.5 wasn't there, so I created a symlink to the newer version that was there.
Now I get this
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./flock
./flock-bin: /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5: version `GLIBCPP_3.2' not found (required by ./flock-bin)
./flock-bin: /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5: version `CXXABI_1.2' not found (required by ./flock-bin)
./flock-bin: /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5: version `GLIBCPP_3.2' not found (required by ./libxpcom_core.so)
./flock-bin: /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5: version `CXXABI_1.2' not found (required by ./libxpcom_core.so)
./flock-bin: /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5: version `GLIBCPP_3.2' not found (required by ./libxpcom_compat.so)
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Don't know that this is really a bug, but probably something flock users need to have fixed.
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kirk
Joined: 11 Nov 2005 Posts: 1333 Location: florida
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Posted: Wed 09 Apr 2008, 22:35 Post subject:
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The Battery applet problem Barry mentioned in his blog is with computers that use apm. The docs included with asapm (the battery app) says this should not happen:
| Quote: | This estimate is either
provided by the APM daemon or is calculated by this tool
itself. When there is no estimate available the display is
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The rc.modules2 script only checks for acpi batterys and loads the needed modules.
Disciple reported on this thread:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=25812&start=30
that this only occurs with alpha7 (and now beta1), both have the 2.6.21.7 kernel, and that it did not occur with alpha6 which has the 2.6.24.
1) So the first question is for Barry. Do you still plan on using 2.6.25 for Dingo final? If so this may be a non-problem.
2) Floborg, could you post the output of cat /proc/apm? Then we can compare it to what HairyWill posted and make some kind of test for it.
Also,
Noticed that shift-delete doesn't seem to copy text from rxvt in beta1.
I find Gxine's GUI easy to use, but Xine-ui did seem to work quite well.
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disciple
Joined: 20 May 2006 Posts: 6179 Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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Posted: Wed 09 Apr 2008, 23:34 Post subject:
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Beaten to it.
Barry, I updated the trash roxapp again, with a little bugfix and some of the additional functionality I was suggesting someone else could do.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=188998#188998
I'm guessing it won't change again in the near future, except Dan is talking about modifying it to use fltk via Murgalua.
BUT, I think you should change it back to use icons in /usr/local/apps/Trash, and have the icons as links to icons in /usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/
Because if you have it directly using icons in /usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/, like in the alpha's, then it isn't backwards compatible. Whenever anyone restores or deletes the last item in their trash, if this item was deleted in an earlier puppy, then it will still look in /usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/ for the empty icon.
I made the icon paths variables, so you just have to look in the top of AppRun and temp-AppRun.
EDIT - I guess this isn't a big issue, as it will get the correct empty icon if you click on the trash.
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floborg

Joined: 25 Oct 2007 Posts: 194 Location: Fort Worth, TX
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Posted: Thu 10 Apr 2008, 00:28 Post subject:
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2) Floborg, could you post the output of cat /proc/apm? Then we can compare it to what HairyWill posted and make some kind of test for it.
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# cat /proc/apm
1.16ac 1.2 0x03 0x01 0xff 0x80 -1% -1 ? |
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Sage
Joined: 04 Oct 2005 Posts: 4623 Location: GB
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Posted: Thu 10 Apr 2008, 03:15 Post subject:
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What is the significance of the /bin/mnt: line91
message in the boot up sequence of a full install of P4beta1 ?
It never appeared before.
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Firefox
Joined: 03 Nov 2006 Posts: 171 Location: UK
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Posted: Thu 10 Apr 2008, 09:02 Post subject:
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I tried to install pups to Dingo - appeared to work for normal files with getext and dotpuphandler but not with Puppy software installer - the files can be downloaded but the menu does not appear and the rate of download is to fast for my eyes/systen, i never know if the files are ok or not - it seams the arrow disapears half way along giving the impression of success.
Can somebody please make a dot PET of PSI for Dingo please.
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vito
Joined: 14 Sep 2006 Posts: 51 Location: US
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Posted: Thu 10 Apr 2008, 11:44 Post subject:
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Hello all :
I ran into this bug in puppy 3.01 also. Everything works fine until I try and load youtube.com, then the curser freezes, and I have to reboot. Once the computer rebooted itself when I was trying to youtube.com.
Could this be a flash problem? The problem for me showed up on
TMXXINE 3.01 and DINGO BETA.
Mny Thx,
Vito
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stoic
Joined: 10 Apr 2008 Posts: 4
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Posted: Thu 10 Apr 2008, 14:00 Post subject:
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Barry,
Since you referred us to this thread for other feedback on your new blog, I'm posting here.
I love the new blogs minimalism, but under Safari 3.0 the title repeats itself after the sidebar has finished (see picture).
The site displays fine under Camino 1.5.5 (a Gecko based Mac browser).
Edit: After looking at the source, the offending code seems to be line 38 in style.css:
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background-position: center, top;
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The comma is not used when specifying css elements in this way - Webkit seems to be stricter in respecting this than Gecko.
After removing the comma the page displays fine in both Safari and Camino.
Stoic
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DreamsToGo

Joined: 27 Jan 2006 Posts: 117 Location: Castelnaudary, south France, World Capital of Cassoulet
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Posted: Thu 10 Apr 2008, 14:03 Post subject:
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Well, since my April 07 post about Gxine stopping after 30 secs or so when playing streaming media, in particular the BBC, I have,
- had a quick flirt with Mandriva - the new version Spring 2008.1 is out.
- but came back to Puppy with my tail between my legs - its Soooo much better and faster.
- reinstalled Puppy Beta 1 with a clean install (frugal). Before I had done an upgrade to a dingo alpha 7 frugal install.
BBC streaming works having installed mplayer, mplayer codecs full and mplayer plugin. It no longer cuts off after 30 sec or so. Good news.
Gxine still sucks though...
Hilary
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kirk
Joined: 11 Nov 2005 Posts: 1333 Location: florida
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Posted: Thu 10 Apr 2008, 14:25 Post subject:
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Here's a fix for the battery monitor problem with apm. I made a wrapper script for asapm to check if /proc/apm has a battery charge of less than zero. If so asapm is not ran.
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if [ -a /proc/apm ]; then
if [ "$(cat /proc/apm | cut -d % -f 1 | awk '{print $(NF)}')" -lt "0" ] ; then
exit
fi
fi
asapm2 $@
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To test, rename /usr/sbin/asapm to asapm2. Then unzip the attached asapm script and put it in /usr/sbin. Reboot. If you guys with apm could test it, that would be great.
The reason this wasn't a problem in alpha6 is that the apm module in 2.6.24 was renamed apm_32, because of the merge of the 32bit and 64bit trees. I saw a patch to rename it back to apm, maybe that's been done for 2.6.25. Anyway, we were not loading the apm module in alpha6.
Another problem:
In /root/ghttpd there is no executable. Guesttoo's Monkey web server package was made in to an official pet package. I didn't know if it was going to be included or not. In any case /root/ghttpd should be deleted.
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GeoW
Joined: 31 Dec 2007 Posts: 150 Location: New Jersey, USA ( East Coast )
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Posted: Thu 10 Apr 2008, 15:49 Post subject:
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kirk,
Good job. The battery app is gone on my desktop computer.
I didn't download your little script. I just did the rename, created a new
asapm and copy / pasted your script into it.
Rebooted - no battery in taskbar.
Running Intel Desktop Board D850MV P4 proc.
Good job,
GeoW
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Béèm

Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 11782 Location: Brussels IBM Thinkpad R40, 256MB, 20GB, WiFi ipw2100. Frugal Lin'N'Win
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Posted: Thu 10 Apr 2008, 15:54 Post subject:
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When I try to connect to my yahoo IM account I get the msg from Yahoo, that I should install the latest version of Yahoo Messenger.
Duh, ayttm = Yahoo messenger?
I don't have this with Pidgin and Kopete.
EDIT:
OK, saw the message on the blog, but it's not clear to me what I should do to correct ayttm.
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